Democrats don't understand districts and redistricting?

[FerrelGeek]

No

War is on.

Rich Religious Republicans Vs the poor Liberal Lowly Democrats.

Which side are you on?

Not all republicans are rich. Not all democrats are poor.

You, on the other hand, are always an idot troll.

 

[monovillage]

Until they come up with a law that says the districts must be drawn to be as geographically compact while containing the correct number of people and that being the only criteria then gerrymandering will continue. Given that the popular term for it originated in 1812 it is obviously something that the country has been content to allow to continue.

It's not just geography, it's trying to keep people with similar political interests and concerns together so they can get fair representation.

 

[Linflas]

It's not just geography, it's trying to keep people with similar political interests and concerns together so they can get fair representation.

Fair representation is 1 person, 1 vote, not a guarantee of electing someone of a party/ethnic group/race you find acceptable. Drawing districts to ensure those outcomes is as offensive to me as drawing them to exclude those groups.

 

[monovillage]

Fair representation is 1 person, 1 vote, not a guarantee of electing someone of a party/ethnic group/race you find acceptable. Drawing districts to ensure those outcomes is as offensive to me as drawing them to exclude those groups.

I was thinking more of farmers, rural, suburban and urban rather then race or ethnicity. Don't confuse fair representation with the racist definitions of the Democrat special interests.

 

[Linflas]

I was thinking more of farmers, rural, suburban and urban rather then race or ethnicity. Don't confuse fair representation with the racist definitions of the Democrat special interests.

I think that if the districts were drawn as geographically compact as possible it would actually work out the way you want. Obviously in rural areas a geographically compact district would cover a much larger area of land to achieve the correct population numbers while districts in suburban and urban areas would be much smaller with the higher population densities.

 

[fskimospy]

I think that if the districts were drawn as geographically compact as possible it would actually work out the way you want. Obviously in rural areas a geographically compact district would cover a much larger area of land to achieve the correct population numbers while districts in suburban and urban areas would be much smaller with the higher population densities.

I tend to think in the end this would probably be the best solution. I'm sure it would lead to some screwed up districts from time to time, but I think it would end up being the overall fairest solution.

 

[Griffinhart]

I consider it a wash between the Congress and Senate Republicans and Democrats.

From "USA Today" : http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2011-11-15/congress-wealthy-1/51216626/1

57 members of Congress among wealthy 1%

Members of Congress disclose their assets and liabilities in broad ranges. The estimated net worth is the middle of that range, as reported on their 2010 disclosure forms. Net worth does not include primary residence or other personal property. Updated Nov. 16, 2011.
Like these: Congress’s top 1% and their estimated net worth:

• Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif. $448.1 million Owned a car alarm maker.

• Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas $380.4 million Married to the daughter of radio giant Clear Channel Communications’ founder.

• Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass. $231.7 million Married to the widow of a Heinz ketchup heir.

• Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va. $192.7 million Co-founded cellphone company Nextel.

• Sen. Herb Kohl, D-Wis. $158.5 million Oversaw family chain of stores.

Over all I think there are more 1% Republicans in office, but to try and pass off the Democrats as poor is stupid.

Using that link as the source data. 45% of all dems in the house and senate have a net worth of over a million. 48% of republicans have a net worth of a million or more. Both groups average north of 15 mil.

I guess technically, you can say the democrats have less money than republicans, but the truth is, they are very similar accross the board in how rich or poor they are in congress.

 

[jstern01]

Until they come up with a law that says the districts must be drawn to be as geographically compact while containing the correct number of people and that being the only criteria then gerrymandering will continue. Given that the popular term for it originated in 1812 it is obviously something that the country has been content to allow to continue.

There ya go:

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Florida_Congressional_District_Boundaries,_Amendment_6_(2010)

And we are still arguing over it. The people passed it by a wide margin and the damn politicians refuse to implement it.

 

[dank69]

If you win the election you should get to set up the district.

I seriously hope this is a troll.

 

[mpo]

Come on, congresswoman, districts are determined by population, and population alone. They are never determined by land area. Republicans generally win rural areas, while Democrats generally win urban areas. This isn't something "funny" going on in Ohio, as you explicitly said on the floor of the house... it's reality. When censuses are taken and redistricting is mandated, sparsely populated areas tend to stay the same, while densely populated areas are more likely to see population shifts leading to more redistricting. It's the natural way of things. It's not Republicans oppressing Democrats and minorities.

This is not quite true. Population is only one factor that goes into the redistricting process. (FWIW, each state has its own laws/regulations for redistricting. Some states only have one rep, so the issue is moot.)

Typically, states do have rules for each district including a) equal population, b) compactness, c) continuity, and d) in line with various voting rights laws, etc.

Whether redistricting is done through a partisan or non-partisan process, the various political players will complain about packing, cracking, gerrymandering, etc.

 

[pcgeek11]

He is talking about the voters.

I however am not...

What do you have a link into his brain. He didn't say either way. In my experience most voters are no registered to either party.