Democrats at Convention want to ban profits.

[spidey07]

LOL. That one caught my eye (or ear) too. At first I was thinking even though this is a topic I would think that most people, especially those attending a convention like that, should know enough about I definately give her credit for not wanting to give an opinion on something that she doesn't know enough about...... until she kept opening her mouth..... All I could say after was wow...

This is what they believe. It is one of their core beliefs. It is the mind of the liberal.

 

[werepossum]

I can't prove a negative or really establish anything about my personal experience on anything except my own word, so you can call shens all you want. It's a dead end. However, you have made a positive assertion, that banning corporate profits is a "core Democrat belief." I would expect then to see it in the DNC platform, or Obama, who is the leader of the party, to be advocating it. I would expect to repeatedly hear it from important and influential dems, not a few people at a convention shown in a series of cherry picked sound bites. So I'm calling shens here. Prove it.



I'm not sure what you mean, the "core" of the party. I can't recall too many conservatives wanting to ban homosexuality, though I assume some would bring back the anti-sodomy laws we had in the past. That, however, is a plausible position as we actually had such laws until very recently. In any event, what you call the "core" is probably more akin to what I would refer to as "the fringe."

Is there a sitting member of Congress who says we should ban all corporate profits? Even in the Progressive Caucus? If so, please link it.

We know the dem party leadership doesn't support this. If you think the rank and file does, I suggest finding a poll. I'm not buying it without evidence that is better than what is in that video. What the vid presents is anecdotal, cherry picked, and is not sampling a representative cross-section of dems. It's worthless as proof of anything. It's like me saying that the majority of repubs think Obama is as bad a Hitler because of 3 people holding signs at a tea party rally.

- wolf

By the core of the party I mean the activists who write the party platforms, run the get out the vote programs, hand out the flyers - not the bulk of the party, but those who make it run day to day.

For the rest, fair enough. Assuming you missed that these are delegates and convention attendees, missed the whole Occupy America fad, missed Cynthia McKenny and Dennis Kucinich and the like, and missed the constant attacks on corporations here, you can surely admit that at the least, it's mainstream liberal/progressive policy to empower government to decide how much profit is acceptable (windfall profits taxes, where above a mandated level government simply takes the "excess") and that in some areas (health care, pharmaceuticals, energy production, broad band, education) for-profit corporations should be banned. Unless you want to posit that the majority of lefties here are extremists.

As far as the Democrat platform, this is the first convention willing to drop any mention of G-d and any support for Israel, too - although they DID scurry likes roaches caught by the kitchen light when the non-elites found out. The same people who were in favor of banning corporate profits were the ones who booed mentioning G-d and supporting Israel. These are the people who make the Democrat Party function, and not coincidentally the ones who write the party platform and elect the nominee. Give them a couple election cycles and I'm sure they'll be slipping in the anti-corporate rhetoric too. But for now, they need votes from non-Marxists too much to admit it except when they think they are safe with their own - just as with their antipathy toward G-d and Israel.

 

[Darwin333]

Admittedly he goads a lot of these people into saying stupid things, but that is hardly an indictment of the party as a whole. I am reminded of the Man Show bits where they got dozens of people to sign petitions banning suffrage, and to make the Statue of Liberty sexier. A certain number of people will just agree to almost anything if they are led into it. I can only assume many more people said, "Ban profits? No way!" and he chose not to include those in his video.

This is very true. I remember seeing a few different people prove this by gathering signatures to ban a very dangerous chemical called Dihydrogen monoxide. They listed all kinds of very true things about it such as it being a major component of acid rain, used in nuclear facilities, causes erosion, can cause severe burns, is a large percentage of what pesticides are made of, etc.... They would show up to just about any sort of environmental gathering and have people signing the petition to ban it in droves. I hope for the sake of humanity that they just edited out the people that said "wait, ummm, isn't that just water" but it was very eye opening on how you can get people to go along with damn near anything by wording the questions right.

For what it's worth, Peter Schiff is himself a complete, discredited crackpot (he is a Ron Paul crony who has predicted hyperinflation for years, leading his followers to make ruinous investments based on his prediction that the dollar would collapse). His father Irwin is a notorious tax protester with multiple felony convictions - he is serving 13 years in prison at the moment.

Don't know much about him but isn't he a very rich businessman? I also wouldn't hold his fathers actions over him as you seem to. I see no reason to ding someone for actions committed by people other than them and in which they had no control over but thats just me. Assuming you are correct about his hyperinflation claims, that is a huge miss so far although its not so low as to be a non-factor as most like to claim.

 

[Darwin333]

This is what they believe. It is one of their core beliefs. It is the mind of the liberal.

So what you are saying is that what he believes and what he actually does are two entirely different things? In this case actually polar opposites, if that is true wouldn't you want him to "believe" that in case he wins since you obviously believe in the opposite and would, I assume, much prefer him to believe in his side and actually DO your side than vice versa?

You can keep telling me what he believes or what he says but in my eyes he is a politician and I judge them by what they actually do.

 

[Incorruptible]

This is why the democrats need to kick all there members out and restart again

 

[Matt1970]

This is very true. I remember seeing a few different people prove this by gathering signatures to ban a very dangerous chemical called Dihydrogen monoxide. They listed all kinds of very true things about it such as it being a major component of acid rain, used in nuclear facilities, causes erosion, can cause severe burns, is a large percentage of what pesticides are made of, etc.... They would show up to just about any sort of environmental gathering and have people signing the petition to ban it in droves. I hope for the sake of humanity that they just edited out the people that said "wait, ummm, isn't that just water" but it was very eye opening on how you can get people to go along with damn near anything by wording the questions right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw

 

[IGBT]

liberalism is a mental disorder and the tards want to drag the country back to the dark ages. In the obama's world success is illegitimate.

 

[dmcowen674]

liberalism is a mental disorder and the tards want to drag the country back to the dark ages.

In the obama's world success is illegitimate.

Sure better than the crap Republicans spew out.

You guys don't like you can leave.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by Darwin333
This is very true. I remember seeing a few different people prove this by gathering signatures to ban a very dangerous chemical called Dihydrogen monoxide. They listed all kinds of very true things about it such as it being a major component of acid rain, used in nuclear facilities, causes erosion, can cause severe burns, is a large percentage of what pesticides are made of, etc.... They would show up to just about any sort of environmental gathering and have people signing the petition to ban it in droves. I hope for the sake of humanity that they just edited out the people that said "wait, ummm, isn't that just water" but it was very eye opening on how you can get people to go along with damn near anything by wording the questions right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw

This is a disingenuous ploy on their part using words like pesticides and Nuclear facilities in the spiel.

I wouldn't expect any less from the above posters and the rest of their cabal.

 

[Incorruptible]

liberalism is a mental disorder and the tards want to drag the country back to the dark ages. In the obama's world success is illegitimate.

Well said. These people will destroy the country

 

[Schmide]

Nm he does do some legitimate interviews.

 

[Incorruptible]

Nm he does do some legitimate interviews.

Peter Schiff is brilliant and one of the few people that gets it, he predicted the recession

 

[Darwin333]

Originally Posted by Darwin333
This is very true. I remember seeing a few different people prove this by gathering signatures to ban a very dangerous chemical called Dihydrogen monoxide. They listed all kinds of very true things about it such as it being a major component of acid rain, used in nuclear facilities, causes erosion, can cause severe burns, is a large percentage of what pesticides are made of, etc.... They would show up to just about any sort of environmental gathering and have people signing the petition to ban it in droves. I hope for the sake of humanity that they just edited out the people that said "wait, ummm, isn't that just water" but it was very eye opening on how you can get people to go along with damn near anything by wording the questions right.




This is a disingenuous ploy on their part using words like pesticides and Nuclear facilities in the spiel.

I wouldn't expect any less from the above posters and the rest of their cabal.

They said absolutely nothing that was untruthful and even though it obviously went over your head the point was rather simple, you can get people to sign something saying that agree with just about any position you want as long as you word the question right. This is a prime example as to why I do not trust the vast majority of polls out there, its all about wording the poll to get the results that you want.

 

[JMapleton]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw

This is what made Peter Schiff famous. Pretty entertaining seeing all the news casters and "pundits" laugh at him.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw

This is what made Peter Schiff famous. Pretty entertaining seeing all the news casters and "pundits" laugh at him.

I that was fun to watch. Here's another video of him debating David Epstein in 2011. Notice the confirmation bias at the beginning of the slide show by David. Anyways, Peter goes on to destroy this guy sans the need for a slide show and the partisan politics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=zM23TZxzOw8&NR=1