Democrats are planning to give seniors $250 check

[Budmantom]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101019/ap_on_bi_ge/us_social_security_bonus



So the US is dead broke and this administration and Democrats are planning to dig the hole even deeper so they can tell the seniors that they truly deeply care about their votes..errrr..them? D:

If this administration and Democrats care about seniors so much, why don't they give the money out of their own pockets? Plenty of Democrat lawmakers are wealthy.

<<---waiting to hear about ..."but..but..but..Bussssshhhhh" excuses in 3....2....1...

$250 for a vote is cheap.....

 

[Slew Foot]

I really didn't expect rightwingers to be opposed to this. Seriously guys? This is a drop in the bucket and will help seniors, people who everybody agrees have earned their retirement.

If they earned their retirement, they wouldnt be asking for more money.


And seriously, seniors who are still affected by a rent increase, did something completely wrong.

 

[PeshakJang]

If they earned their retirement, they wouldnt be asking for more money.


And seriously, seniors who are still affected by a rent increase, did something completely wrong.

You're just a racist who hates old black people. $15 billion is pocket change... it's insignificant... we could literally write checks for $15 billion every day for a year and since $15 billion is a drop in the bucket, it wouldn't matter one bit.

You racist.

 

[Ldir]

If they earned their retirement, they wouldnt be asking for more money.


And seriously, seniors who are still affected by a rent increase, did something completely wrong.

You are clueless. Millions of seniors live on fixed incomes. If it's not a rent increase it's property taxes. Their expenses go up either way.

 

[spidey07]

You are clueless. Millions of seniors live on fixed incomes. If it's not a rent increase it's property taxes. Their expenses go up either way.

And if they are they're doing it wrong and didn't plan for their retirement. that's the point. Let them eat cat food for all I care, that's the price of stupidity, it has to hurt otherwise people would keep making stupid decisions. By taking away the consequences of stupidity you encourage more of it.

The government is not the provider of life or sustenance to free people.

 

[Ldir]

And if they are they're doing it wrong and didn't plan for their retirement. that's the point. Let them eat cat food for all I care, that's the price of stupidity, it has to hurt otherwise people would keep making stupid decisions. By taking away the consequences of stupidity you encourage more of it.

The government is not the provider of life or sustenance to free people.

The irony of you calling others stupid. You are hateful scum. I look forward to the day karma finds you.

 

[spidey07]

The irony of you calling others stupid. You are hateful scum. I look forward to the day karma finds you.

So believing in personal responsibility and liberty makes me scum? Funny, where I live that makes me an American Patriot.

Let me guess, you aren't managing your retirement properly.

 

[her209]

So believing in personal responsibility and liberty makes me scum? Funny, where I live that makes me an American Patriot.

Let me guess, you aren't managing your retirement properly.

Just curious... do you believe in "limited liability" then?

 

[Ldir]

So believing in personal responsibility and liberty makes me scum? Funny, where I live that makes me an American Patriot.

Let me guess, you aren't managing your retirement properly.

You sound like some know it all punk who still lives at home. You live in a delusion disconnected from the real world and real people with real problems. You hate on them because you have no clue what the real world is like. You are a patriot in your own head. I work for a living. I am at least 40 years from retirement.

 

[waggy]

is this buying votes?sure is.

 

[Throckmorton]

is this buying votes?sure is.

Aren't you a senior? Are you going to vote for Democrats?

 

[spidey07]

You sound like some know it all punk who still lives at home. You live in a delusion disconnected from the real world and real people with real problems. You hate on them because you have no clue what the real world is like. You are a patriot in your own head. I work for a living. I am at least 40 years from retirement.

Then you had better start doing more to save for your retirement. I'm 39 and will likely retire before 54. I've been through a whole hell of a lot and so dirt poor I didn't know if I could eat. All it takes is some hard work to live a pretty decent life. I have plenty of clue of real life problems and am going to make damn sure my decisions don't lead to those problems.

Personal responsibility and individual liberty. Live it, learn it, love it.

 

[Throckmorton]

Then you had better start doing more to save for your retirement. I'm 39 and will likely retire before 54. I've been through a whole hell of a lot and so dirt poor I didn't know if I could eat. All it takes is some hard work to live a pretty decent life. I have plenty of clue of real life problems and am going to make damn sure my decisions don't lead to those problems.

Personal responsibility and individual liberty. Live it, learn it, love it.

It's not physically possible for everybody to make enough money to retire at 54. That's just the way a real economy is. There are rich and there are middle class and there are poor. Unless you're advocating some kind of socialism.

 

[BoberFett]

It's not physically possible for everybody to make enough money to retire at 54. That's just the way a real economy is. There are rich and there are middle class and there are poor. Unless you're advocating some kind of socialism.

Some professions in Greece retire at 54. I hear that country is doing well, it's certainly a case study in the benefits of socialism.

 

[nobodyknows]

This points out what is so wrong with entitlements.

Social Security INSURANCE isn't an entitlement, it's inusrance that's been bought and paid for. It's not the old people's fault that all the politicians raid the trust fund.

And to the idiots claiming this is buying votes. LOL, the D's lost more votes by not doing something about no cost of living increase for two years then they will ever gain doing a one time measley $250 payment.

If a SS recipient is getting $12,500 a year and didn't get a 2% COLA that he should of had, that's $250 a year, every year for the rest of his life he is missing out on. Now they did it again? That's $500/year they are being cheated out of while the cost of food and medicie keeps going up. LOL some bribe. WoooHooo!! Let the votes poor in!! DUHHH!!

 

[nobodyknows]

Then you had better start doing more to save for your retirement. I'm 39 and will likely retire before 54. I've been through a whole hell of a lot and so dirt poor I didn't know if I could eat. All it takes is some hard work to live a pretty decent life. I have plenty of clue of real life problems and am going to make damn sure my decisions don't lead to those problems.

Personal responsibility and individual liberty. Live it, learn it, love it.

Shit, you're just a kid living at home withe your father, the MD.

 

[Exterous]

Some professions in Greece retire at 54. I hear that country is doing well, it's certainly a case study in the benefits of socialism.

Don't forget that people with hazardous jobs like hairdresser and newscaster get to retire at 50

 

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[Modelworks]

And if they are they're doing it wrong and didn't plan for their retirement. that's the point. Let them eat cat food for all I care, that's the price of stupidity, it has to hurt otherwise people would keep making stupid decisions. By taking away the consequences of stupidity you encourage more of it.

The government is not the provider of life or sustenance to free people.

Our seniors are some of the hardest working most dedicated people this country has ever had. Todays younger generation doesn't even come close to being willing to do the things that our current seniors did to survive. I know people like to joke about stories older people tell about how hard life was for them, but some of them are true. I know my dad plowed fields using a mule and hauled trees to a nearby mill on a cart with his dad to build my grandmothers house. My dad was born legally blind but he didn't sit on his ass and try to claim support from the government. He joined the army and worked for over 50 years , all the while never taking one cent from the government but paying his share into social security the entire time. Todays generation wants to sit on the couch and have everything handed to them and throws a tantrum if they don't get it. If you took the current generation and placed them in society 50 years ago they would all starve to death because they wouldn't be willing to do what needs to be done to live. THAT is what needs to be fixed, seniors are NOT the problem with this country.

 

[Exterous]

If you took the current generation and placed them in society 50 years ago they would all starve to death because they wouldn't be willing to do what needs to be done to live. THAT is what needs to be fixed, seniors are NOT the problem with this country.

While I am not exactly sure what generation you are referring to some of us work very hard to get where we have gotten and would appriciate not being lumped in with the very lazy rest of the generation

That said - Seniors are THE obstacle for SS reform. It's a broken system but seniors make it political suicide for anyone to try true reform. We can't have anyone touching any of 'their money' even though that means I will never see all of 'my money'. I get their bitching about paying into the system - I really do. The thing is that their bitching and refusal to allow reform is going to prevent ME from seeing all of the money that I paid into the system. It's the hypocrisy and insistence on passing on their problems to the next generation that really gets me

 

[Ldir]

While I am not exactly sure what generation you are referring to some of us work very hard to get where we have gotten and would appriciate not being lumped in with the very lazy rest of the generation

That said - Seniors are THE obstacle for SS reform. It's a broken system but seniors make it political suicide for anyone to try true reform. We can't have anyone touching any of 'their money' even though that means I will never see all of 'my money'. I get their bitching about paying into the system - I really do. The thing is that their bitching and refusal to allow reform is going to prevent ME from seeing all of the money that I paid into the system. It's the hypocrisy and insistence on passing on their problems to the next generation that really gets me

It is only broken because Congress can't keep its hands off SS money. Fix that and the rest of SS only needs a few tweaks.

 

[Mursilis]

It is only broken because Congress can't keep its hands off SS money. Fix that and the rest of SS only needs a few tweaks.

Not true - it's also broken because many people reap from SS far in excess of what they sowed. Seniors spout on and on about "paying in", but SS doesn't stop once your own contribution (and interest) is fully depleted.

 

[werepossum]

Our seniors are some of the hardest working most dedicated people this country has ever had. Todays younger generation doesn't even come close to being willing to do the things that our current seniors did to survive. I know people like to joke about stories older people tell about how hard life was for them, but some of them are true. I know my dad plowed fields using a mule and hauled trees to a nearby mill on a cart with his dad to build my grandmothers house. My dad was born legally blind but he didn't sit on his ass and try to claim support from the government. He joined the army and worked for over 50 years , all the while never taking one cent from the government but paying his share into social security the entire time. Todays generation wants to sit on the couch and have everything handed to them and throws a tantrum if they don't get it. If you took the current generation and placed them in society 50 years ago they would all starve to death because they wouldn't be willing to do what needs to be done to live. THAT is what needs to be fixed, seniors are NOT the problem with this country.

Very well said. Had politicians set up an actual retirement plan rather than a Ponzi scheme, Social Security would be solvent today as regular investments over a person's working life (by SS design roughly forty-seven years) pay off quite well.

 

[PeshakJang]

According to Harry Reid last week...

there&#8217;s plenty of money in that trust fund account.

...

for the next 35 years, everyone will get all the money they want. Even after that, it takes minor tinkering to take care of it in the out years.

...

Social Security will pay out 100 percent of its benefits for the next 35 to 40 years.

I guess nothing is wrong!

 

[Balt]

Very well said. Had politicians set up an actual retirement plan rather than a Ponzi scheme, Social Security would be solvent today as regular investments over a person's working life (by SS design roughly forty-seven years) pay off quite well.

The very same people who scream every time SS reform was or is even mentioned are the ones now complaining. No sympathy for them.

The younger generations didn't put dopes in office, they're just the ones who are going to get stuck with the bill.