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Why the fuck do people say this? Republic is a representative democracy. This is like saying NIC Card and knowing NIC means Network Interface Card. Would you say democratic representative democracy?
 

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Why the fuck do people say this? Republic is a representative democracy. This is like saying NIC Card and knowing NIC means Network Interface Card. Would you say democratic representative democracy?

They say it because not all republics are all that democratic.

You can have a republic in which the power to elect their governing representatives is held by a sub-group so severely restricted by either race, wealth, gender or patrimony, or any combination thereof, that the resulting political entity could hardly be called democratic but could still be considered a republic.

What I want to know is why nearly everyone says "close proximity" when proximity means close to?

Also, why do so many say "very unique" when unique means oneof a kind?
 

CallMeJoe

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Republics are not necessarily democratic; they could also be aristocratic or oligarchic.
 

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They say it because not all republics are all that democratic.

You can have a republic in which the power to elect their governing representatives is held by a sub-group so severely restricted by either race, wealth, gender or patrimony, or any combination thereof, that the resulting political entity could hardly be called democratic but could still be considered a republic.

What I want to know is why nearly everyone says "close proximity" when proximity means close to?

Also, why do so many say "very unique" when unique means oneof a kind?

Then they aren't really a republic are they? Like I said a republic is a representative democracy, if people cannot fairly vote for their representatives then it isn't a republic.
 

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Then they aren't really a republic are they? Like I said a republic is a representative democracy, if people cannot fairly vote for their representatives then it isn't a republic.
not true.
 

CallMeJoe

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Then they aren't really a republic are they? Like I said a republic is a representative democracy, if people cannot fairly vote for their representatives then it isn't a republic.
Republics are not necessarily democratic; they could also be aristocratic or oligarchic.
Don't make me quote myself again.


Edit: FWIW, representative democracies are not necessarily republics. Monarchic parliamentary democracies (Parliamentary Monarchies) are not Republics.
 
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Then they aren't really a republic are they? Like I said a republic is a representative democracy, if people cannot fairly vote for their representatives then it isn't a republic.

C'mon, just re-read what I wrote, perhaps a bit more slowly, until you grasp it all. Or just read what CallMeJoe wrote -- mine goes into more explanatory detail, but his post is more concise.
 

preslove

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If a country has Democratic or Republic in its name, it ain't.

All you people arguing didn't realize that the OP's answer was answered correctly in the second reply by mfenn.


Countries that feel the need to put "Democratic" or "Republic" in their name are governed by dictators, but pretend that they're governed democratically. They usually have a republican system, but only one legal political party, which chooses its party slate internally.
 
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CallMeJoe

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All you morons arguing didn't realize that the OP's answer was answered correctly in the second reply by mfenn.
Countries that feel the need to put "Democratic" or "Republic" in their name are governed by dictators, but pretend that they're governed democratically. They usually have a republican system, but only one legal political party, which chooses its party slate internally.
Tell that to the Republic of Ireland.
 

Bateluer

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Yeah, there are exceptions to Republic, but I don't know any for Democratic, and anything named Democratic Republic is an awful, corrupt government.

Usually. You can also add 'People's Republic' and 'Islamic Republic' to that list.
 

preslove

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Usually. You can also add 'People's Republic' and 'Islamic Republic' to that list.

Yeah, I guess the rule should be as follows:

"Republic of __________" can be an actual functioning democratically elected republic, or not. "__________" Republic will be bad news, whether it's People's or Democratic or Islamic or Union of Soviet Socialist, or what have you. Having any kind of modifier in front of Republic just means you're hiding something.
 

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Why the fuck do people say this? Republic is a representative democracy. This is like saying NIC Card and knowing NIC means Network Interface Card. Would you say democratic representative democracy?

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