Democratic Party - Clueless & Feckless - is the D party done?

[Indus]

 

[Indus]

That's just today's news..

Dems openly cooperating with Trump to stop Mamdani..

The party is fucking dead!

I'd rather have Trump and MAGA rather than fake MAGA dems. At least I know MAGA won't pretend to be my bodyguard or my friend.

 

[cytg111]

I think it's great, they're showing you exactly where the cancer is in the dem party. Now cut it out.

 

[Brainonska511]

Dems openly cooperating with Trump to stop Mamdani..

Blaming "Dems" for what Cuomo and a few out of touch donors is doing is pointless and feeds into unnecessarily negative perceptions when you can just hold the specific shitheads accountable. And surprise surprise, people like Cuomo are generally pretty unpopular.

https://bsky.app/profile/saysceej.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3lwtwnjcrpk2p

This is a pretty good thread on propaganda and something to keep in mind with every story about some loser former political shithead saying shitty things and acting like it's the entire party, and the permissions structures that result from constantly hearing these stories.

 

[Indus]

Blaming "Dems" for what Cuomo and a few out of touch donors is doing is pointless and feeds into unnecessarily negative perceptions when you can just hold the specific shitheads accountable. And surprise surprise, people like Cuomo are generally pretty unpopular.

https://bsky.app/profile/saysceej.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3lwtwnjcrpk2p

This is a pretty good thread on propaganda and something to keep in mind with every story about some loser former political shithead saying shitty things and acting like it's the entire party, and the permissions structures that result from constantly hearing these stories.

Unpopular??

43.6% is not unpopular.. it's quite considerable.

At least I know MAGA want to kill me so I'm prepared to fight them.

But these sneaky dems who wanna pretend to be my friend and then sneak up behind me cut our throats like they have for generations.. I'm supposed to respect them?

C'mon.. you don't need traitors like these in the Dem Party.. you need absolute fanatics.. who will not compromise.. and then you can win and make the world you want.

It ain't gonna happen with Cuomo like people.. commanding 43%.

 

[Brainonska511]

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Unpopular??

43.6% is not unpopular.. it's quite considerable.

At least I know MAGA want to kill me so I'm prepared to fight them.

But these sneaky dems who wanna pretend to be my friend and then sneak up behind me cut our throats like they have for generations.. I'm supposed to respect them?

C'mon.. you don't need traitors like these in the Dem Party.. you need absolute fanatics.. who will not compromise.. and then you can win and make the world you want.

It ain't gonna happen with Cuomo like people.. commanding 43%.

He lost by 13 points. He's not popular.

Do you think Jimmy Carter was popular in this election too?



Edit:
Cuomo also empowered the IDC in NY to keep republicans in charge of the NYS Senate. Cuomo is a shithead. You also don't have to pretend that all democrats are Cuomo or that a majority support Cuomo. Stop making Republicans' jobs easier by constantly shitting on everyone when you just mean "Cuomo".

 

[Indus]

Cuomo also empowered the IDC in NY to keep republicans in charge of the NYS Senate.

That's a good shout.

I had forgotten about that..

He's still not been charged for rape or anything either.. proof the dems protect him!

 

[Brovane]

Newsom Social Media team has been annoying MAGA supporters.

 

[K1052]

Since TX passed their new map CA, IL, and NY look very likely to redistrict. Even Obama says its the right move now so more states will likely move to do the same. More Democrats are rediscovering partisan combat which is what their voters want instead of unilateral disarmament.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...-redistricting-response-texas-maps-rcna226181

At a fundraising event Tuesday night for the National Democratic Redistricting Committee, Obama said the Democratic Party needs to "respond effectively" to Republican attempts to gerrymander.

“I’ve had to wrestle with my preference, which would be that we don’t have political gerrymandering, but what I also know is that if we don’t respond effectively, then this White House and Republican-controlled state governments all across the country, they will not stop, because they do not appear to believe in this idea of an inclusive, expansive democracy,” Obama said at the event, which included former Attorney General Eric Holder and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., the former House speaker.

Obama cited Newsom's plan Tuesday, saying he has "tremendous respect" for the proposal, which would allow redistricting that favors Democrats.

“Texas is taking direction from a partisan White House that is effectively saying: Gerrymander for partisan purposes so we can maintain the House despite our unpopular policies,” Obama said.

“So I believe that Gov. Newsom’s approach is a responsible approach. He said this is going to be responsible. We’re not going to try to completely maximize it. We’re only going to do it if and when Texas and/or other Republican states begin to pull these maneuvers,” he said.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Theoretically it should work but trump and his goons including SCOTUS will have something up their sleeves...

 

[K1052]

Theoretically it should work but trump and his goons including SCOTUS will have something up their sleeves...

If the court says R states can do this but D states can't then I think that's pretty much game over because I'm not willing to accept living in a country under "heads we win tails you lose" interpretations of the constitution from a hard right court. Fuck that all the way. If John Roberts wants to tip the country over into a secession crisis that that option is available to him I guess.

 

[igor_kavinski]

If the court says R states can do this but D states can't then I think that's pretty much game over because I'm not willing to accept living in a country under "heads we win tails you lose" interpretations of the constitution from a hard right court.

What will you do? Leave for Europe or Canada? Or something more drastic?

 

[cytg111]

What will you do? Leave for Europe or Canada? Or something more drastic?

Dude.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Dude.

?

 

[igor_kavinski]

This may not be the full post but whatever is there, is worth a read I think.

In 2020, the Democrats were sure they could finally best Susan Collins (notorious for being only “concerned” about Trump’s unconstitutional, illegal, and racist behavior). Optimism was high, particularly after she voted to confirm Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. Plus, Democrats, who had former Speaker of the state House Sara Gideon leading the charge, eclipsed Collins’ $26.5 million in fundraising with a whopping $68.6 million by Gideon’s campaign.

But then Collins beat Gideon by nearly nine points. In a state that Joe Biden won by nine. An 18-point margin.

Such is the disaster that Graham Platner, a 40-year-old oysterman and US veteran, thinks he can prevent next year.

“There is a very tired playbook that the Democrats have run for a while where DC chooses establishment candidates that they base upon their fundraising capacity, and in 2020…they just got battered, and Susan Collins held the seat,” Platner, who is running for the Senate Democratic nomination to take on the Republican incumbent, tells me. “So in my opinion, we need to be doing something else. I mean, clearly that is a failed strategy.”

Platner, who announced his campaign early Tuesday, joins a relatively open field of candidates vying to take on the lone blue-state Republican senator. There are now six declared candidates for the primary set to take place in less than a year. But many higher-profile Democrats have opted not to enter the race, which will be pivotal in determining Senate control in 2026.

Some of the hesitation has come from the fact that Maine Governor Janet Mills is term-limited, so her soon-to-be-vacant seat has drawn several high-profile names, including the former Senate president, the former House speaker, and the current secretary of state. Mills herself is a leading possible contender to jump into the Senate race, giving others pause from entering, too.

But much of the balking has come simply from Collins’ trouncing in 2020, leaving room for political outsiders like Platner to lead a different kind of campaign.

Born and raised in Maine, Platner joined the Marines out of high school “mostly out of like a young man's sense of duty and also a bit of a call to adventure.” He deployed to Iraq, serving for four years. Upon returning, he went to Washington, DC, to attend George Washington University. But he had a lot of friends still deployed, and he felt he was not pulling his weight. So he re-enlisted in the army, deploying to Afghanistan in 2010 and 2011.

Returning in 2011, after his fourth tour, he found himself disillusioned with the military. Platner says there was the baseline stress that one might have going through traumatic experiences like war, and then there was a realization on top of that “that I did not believe in the thing that I had taken part in.” There was also the trauma in seeing his friends die or get horribly injured, and all the civilians living in the countries they deployed to have their lives upended and destroyed. It was “all in the service of something that I could not find any value in. And that left me feeling very, very unmoored,” he says.

After his return to DC, he was in and out of college. He picked up bartending, and never ended up finishing school. In 2016, he moved back to Maine, where he began gaining support from the Veterans Affairs department, getting physical and mental therapy. He felt a renewed call to service, and in 2018, got a job as a security contractor for the State Department in Afghanistan.

“It was then where whatever cynicism and disillusionment I had once had was just thrown into overdrive,” Platner says, explaining he saw the same things he had seen years prior: failed strategies, tactics, policy, and “what can only be called fraud, the theft of American taxpayer dollars, just being shoved into the pockets of private companies.” He tells me that what he witnessed really underscored his larger critique that the system in the US serves to extract wealth from working-class people, all to give to a small handful. So, that same year, he quit, went back to Maine, and began getting involved in aquaculture. “I hung up the guns, and I never looked back.”

Meet the Disillusioned Veteran Who Thinks He Can Beat Susan Collins in Maine

Oysterman Graham Platner is challenging the establishment, demanding corporations pay for climate change, and says the genocide in Gaza is the “ultimate moral test of our time.”

zeteo.com

 

[UNCjigga]

The D Party definitely seems to have a Chuck Schumer problem. Even Pelosi has been a bit more cognizant of the optics surrounding the party establishment elites and seems to be keeping a low profile. But not Chucky!

JFK’s grandson in a Melania wig is the last thing Democrats need

The party’s recruitment of Jack Schlossberg shows it really hasn’t learnt from defeat to Donald Trump last year

www.thetimes.com

 

[pmv]

If the court says R states can do this but D states can't then I think that's pretty much game over because I'm not willing to accept living in a country under "heads we win tails you lose" interpretations of the constitution from a hard right court. Fuck that all the way. If John Roberts wants to tip the country over into a secession crisis that that option is available to him I guess.

I could absolutely see the Supreme Court finding a way to achieve that outcome, via some bizarre legalise. But they might just conclude they don't need to, as Democrats can't win a gerrymandering war, because the Republicans control more states.

This article suggests it's also intrinsically more difficult for Democrats to gerrymander, because of the way their support is geographically concentrated in dense urban areas, though I don't see that's an insurmountable issue, if one were prepared to go to ludicrous levels of gerrymandering, in the sense of producing truly insane looking districts (just take 'just large enough' little slices of urban areas and combine them with large swathes of rural ones).

Some Democrats want to use gerrymandering. That’s a bad idea | Carlo Invernizzi-Accetti

When a house is on fire, more fire won’t help

www.theguardian.com

(I don't know that I agree with the rest of that article's argument, but the key point would be that the Republicans are far better placed to win a gerrymandering war)

 

[gothuevos]

Stick a fork in 'em.

Got cooked in fundraising the last few months too.

Well deserved.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5462604-voter-registration-shift-democrats/

 

[UNCjigga]

Stick a fork in 'em.

Got cooked in fundraising the last few months too.

Well deserved.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5462604-voter-registration-shift-democrats/

Dems haven’t prepared for the fact that no matter how fascist or how dangerous this Trump Administration has become, most people are unengaged politically and are best considered “fair weather fans”. In other words, if they’re not hurting as a direct result of Trump’s actions, they’ll play along just so they aren’t associated with “the losing team”.

I was curious if we’d start to see a shift in voter registrations as liberal-leaning folks change registrations to protect their right to vote (or hope to vote against the most MAGA candidate in states with closed primaries) but I don’t think we’re there yet, so don’t count on that driving the data.

 

[fskimospy]

Stick a fork in 'em.

Got cooked in fundraising the last few months too.

Well deserved.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5462604-voter-registration-shift-democrats/

You do realize that voter registration numbers are essentially meaningless, right? For example go look at how many people in the south were/are registered Democrats but have voted for no one but Republicans for basically their whole lives.

 

[Brainonska511]

You do realize that voter registration numbers are essentially meaningless, right? For example go look at how many people in the south were/are registered Democrats but have voted for no one but Republicans for basically their whole lives.

People also ascribe way too much power to the national party and state parties. American political parties do not operate in a similar way to foreign ones, and have no mechanism to force members to do something.

The only reason it seems like Republicans can act like a foreign party does with enforcement of members is because they have multiple external controls via huge media apparatuses controlled by rich stakeholders.

 

[fskimospy]

People also ascribe way too much power to the national party and state parties. American political parties do not operate in a similar way to foreign ones, and have no mechanism to force members to do something.

The only reason it seems like Republicans can act like a foreign party does with enforcement of members is because they have multiple external controls via huge media apparatuses controlled by rich stakeholders.

Not to mention the clearest sign that this is the case is Republicans are acting as if they expect to lose the midterms badly. If our good friend here was right why would they be acting so panicked?

Then again it's very out of character for him to predict disaster for the Democrats so who knows! lol.

 

[fskimospy]

Amusingly enough he will most likely predict disaster for the Democrats right up until the election or when it becomes impossible to ignore they will win. (not saying they will, but if that is the case). Then he will switch to 'it doesn't matter anyways, the Democrats are still doomed' without any acknowledgement that he behaved otherwise for the preceding two years.

 

[Indus]

Amusingly enough he will most likely predict disaster for the Democrats right up until the election or when it becomes impossible to ignore they will win. (not saying they will, but if that is the case). Then he will switch to 'it doesn't matter anyways, the Democrats are still doomed' without any acknowledgement that he behaved otherwise for the preceding two years.

I wouldn't mind a Bernie/ AOC party that breaks clean of the dem establishment.

You don't get many good chances to do a clean break.. now is an excellent time!

 

[fskimospy]

I wouldn't mind a Bernie/ AOC party that breaks clean of the dem establishment.

You don't get many good chances to do a clean break.. now is an excellent time!

There will be no new party, although I could see the potential for someone to do a takeover of the Democratic Party like Trump did with the GOP.