Democratic Party - Clueless & Feckless - is the D party done?

[K1052]

Yes, that's the ticket Mr. Cuomo. Incredible idea.


Trump Weighs Getting Involved in New York City Mayor Race

President Trump may have moved out of New York City, but he hasprivately discussed whether to intercede in its fractious race for mayor to try to stop Zohran Mamdani, the Democratic nominee, according to eight people briefed on the discussions.

In recent weeks, Mr. Trump has quizzed a Republican congressman and New York businessmen about who in the crowded field of candidates, which includes Mayor Eric Adams and former Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, has the best chance of beating Mr. Mamdani, the leftist front-runner.

The president has been briefed by Mark Penn, a pollster who has worked for Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Andrew Stein, a former New York City Council president and decades-long friend of Mr. Trump, on a range of polling that showed Mr. Cuomo could still be competitive as an independent candidate. Both men have pushed Mr. Cuomo as the best candidate despite his loss in the Democratic primary, including in a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed. One of Mr. Penn’s firms did extensive work for a pro-Cuomo super PAC in the primary.

And in a previously undisclosed call in recent weeks, Mr. Trump spoke about the race directly with Mr. Cuomo, an old associate and foil, according to three people briefed on the call, who were not authorized to discuss it.

But donors and allies of Mr. Adams and Mr. Cuomo have pined for weeks for the president to intervene, arguing that Mr. Trump, a lifelong New Yorker with strong views about how the city should be run, could play a role in consolidating the fractured anti-Mamdani vote behind a single opponent. This group strongly opposes Mr. Mamdani, a democratic socialist who outflanked Mr. Cuomo in the primary with a message about freezing rents and raising taxes on the rich.

Mr. Trump “loves New York and he’s worried about New York,” said John Catsimatidis, a billionaire Republican grocery and oil magnate. He said he had urged the president not to rush into any action, though.

 

[K1052]

Basically what I've been saying for a while. Rank and file Dems are pissed off that many party members in office have not fought harder, and those office holders will be at risk in their primaries. At the same time D voters are going to turn out in the midterms to vote D like they are giving out free cars at the polls.

 

[gothuevos]

We love to see it.


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Dems don't have enough.

Again, the GOP strategy of slowly winning state legislatures and governor's mansions paying off for them.

Dems = completely neutered

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5447180-texas-gop-redistricting-threat/

 

[manly]

The NYT interviewed more swing voters dumb fucks. Guess we're doomed.


NYT - These Are the Voters Who Should Scare Democrats Most

 

[iRONic]

JFC…

 

[cytg111]

A glimmer of hope, Beto: Fuck the rules

 

[Fenixgoon]

The NYT interviewed more swing voters dumb fucks. Guess we're doomed.


NYT - These Are the Voters Who Should Scare Democrats Most

I think this is the ultimate takeaway of the article

They’re not done with every Democrat. But they’re tired of the old guard

Run a thousand young Bernie/AOC/Mamdanis across the country with a populist message and I'd make a wager that Dems could make 26 and 28 a bloodbath for the GQP

And as for the video above about Bwto's comments, I agree. They want to gerrymander? Do it 10x harder. Make them regret the idea entirely.

 

[K1052]

The NYT interviewed more swing voters dumb fucks. Guess we're doomed.


NYT - These Are the Voters Who Should Scare Democrats Most

Finding moron swing voters is like locating water in the sea. These easily led toddlers will simply flip for the right personality. They could not comprehend policy if you laid it out in crayon.

 

[K1052]

Run a thousand young Bernie/AOC/Mamdanis across the country with a populist message and I'd make a wager that Dems could make 26 and 28 a bloodbath for the GQP

There has never been a better time to primary a Democrat who D voters think isn't up to the job. Younger candidates have huge opportunities the next couple of cycles.

 

[pmv]

And as for the video above about Bwto's comments, I agree. They want to gerrymander? Do it 10x harder. Make them regret the idea entirely.

The trouble is the Republicans are in a much stronger position to win a gerrymander war. In large part because they started much earlier. They control more State legislatures, and they have the Supreme Court.

You need a completely different system (perhaps much larger, multi-member, districts, with representatives awarded proportionally? I don't think a non-partisan districting body would work, it's too late for that, such a body would be subverted immediately, but you could have a system where the boundaries of districts didn't really matter). But there's no way to get there from here, at least not without without violence.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Run a thousand young Bernie/AOC/Mamdanis across the country with a populist message and I'd make a wager that Dems could make 26 and 28 a bloodbath for the GQP

That would piss off the the big money backing them and destroy the Dems ability to win in the general election.

There has never been a better time to primary a Democrat who D voters think isn't up to the job. Younger candidates have huge opportunities the next couple of cycles.

I think they are facing the same problem the GOP is, winning a primary and a general election are very different things. Populist Democrats can win primaries, but then the Democratic party works against them and starves their war coffers to the point they lose the general.

Because if there is anything we can be certain of, it is that running a candidate that the DNC's money backers want is more important than running a candidate that can win.

 

[SMOGZINN]

The trouble is the Republicans are in a much stronger position to win a gerrymander war. In large part because they started much earlier. They control more State legislatures, and they have the Supreme Court.

You also have the problem that Blue states have been passing anti-gerrymandering laws while Red states have not, making it so it is much easier for the GOP to gerrymander than the Democrats.

 

[K1052]

I think they are facing the same problem the GOP is, winning a primary and a general election are very different things. Populist Democrats can win primaries, but then the Democratic party works against them and starves their war coffers to the point they lose the general.

In the end money matters much less than the candidate and what the voters in a given area want. Cuomo is going to spend donor money equivalent of a small African nation's GDP to probably come in a distant second in the general.

We are also seeing a leftinging of what represents centrist/moderate Dem political positioning these days. So even more conventional candidates represent more progressive policy than in previous cycles. The old Dem "moderate" politicians are going extinct.

 

[K1052]

You also have the problem that Blue states have been passing anti-gerrymandering laws while Red states have not, making it so it is much easier for the GOP to gerrymander than the Democrats.

When Kathy Hochul (of all people) is talking about declaring war on Republicans via gerrymandering this becomes a pretty solvable problem from a political resolve point of view.

 

[SMOGZINN]

In the end money matters much less than the candidate and what the voters in a given area want.

Not if you are more willing to lose the election than lose the money.
In all reality the DNC has been sprinting to the right so fast that they are soon going to be more conservative than the GOP was before the whole Tea Party disaster. Yeah, it does not work with the voters, but that does not matter as long as the money keeps rolling in.

When Kathy Hochul (of all people) is talking about declaring war on Republicans via gerrymandering this becomes a pretty solvable problem from a political resolve point of view.

But it will not be able to happen before the midterms, and probably not before 2028, because they set up those laws to be hard to overcome because they intentionally wanted to remove political will from redistricting.

 

[Moonbeam]

The big problem here is that humanity, and thus the American voter is asleep and thus subjected to unconscious motivations, primary among which and relevant here, is unconscious self hate and the incredible level of unconscious pain that we are profoundly motivated not to know we have suffered. Trauma is mastered by forgetfulness, essentially a protective and evolved methodology for self preservation and survival. The problem, of course, is that repressed feelings leak out into conscious behaviors that are profoundly detrimental to mental health later in life. Everyone can see this in people whose walls have broken and the pain starts to enter consciousness, when people who are essentially considered by the world to be the sickest begin to have a chance at real mental health.

So, as long as the majority can life a life where denial is better than the hell of their past, nothing will change. That is why it is said it's darkest before the light. The problem of course, is that owing to the tremendous pressure we all lived through to live successfully in a profoundly sick world, going back inward and facing that pain will remain the last thing we would willingly do. But because the will of the self hater is never to know the real source of the problems with the world, the the answer is within us, the last place we will ever look, the last place we would ever trust, the feeling we are worthless and deserve what we get, day by day, year by year the misery of every new generation piles us. We can only hope that as the world slowly dies at our own hand enough will wake up in numbers great enough to turn the vast mass of culture hell bent on denial of reality.

We all know that truth is despised. It's all part of how we pretend the problem is elsewhere than in ourselves. We are the ones who despise the truth because our truth not The Truth is the very lie we believe.

 

[iRONic]

I have no idea who can outspend the Republican oligarchy. 😔