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Democratic Party - Clueless & Feckless - is the D party done?

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MrSquished said:
If a primary is close maybe I will, I will vote in the Nov elections, and I will be a Dem to vote for any primary opponent if the NJ senators go along with this fiasco in 2026. I'd rather be an Independent. I want them to see themselves lose registered voters. They deserve it.

Schumer hasn't been fit to lead the Dems for years, and most of the Dem leadership hasn't been fit for years either.
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As I recall you are in NJ. Assuming what Booker and Kim said stands all your congresspeople will have voted against including the Senators voting against cloture.

That said I would encourage them to get rid of Schumer as leader because this was an absolute fucking debacle.
 
K1052 said:
As I recall you are in NJ. Assuming what Booker and Kim said stands all your congresspeople will have voted against including the Senators voting against cloture.

That said I would encourage them to get rid of Schumer as leader because this was an absolute fucking debacle.
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I left voicemails for both of them when I heard the news about Schumer's capitulation to fascism. I said if they go along with Schumer, I know myself and a lot of active Dem voters are going to make sure they are successfully primaried because we are sick of always being let down by a weak and ineffective party.
 
Honestly I'm about as far away s you can get from Schumer while staying in the Continental US and I'd work a phone line calling people in his state to primary him.

Dude is a fossil, politics changed but he hasn't.
 
Schumer has fetterman and probably gillibrand. They only need three more to help destroy democracy.

Not looking good but there's always a sliver of Hope.
 
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This is 24 hours apart. Never forget this. They are liars. Their resistance is fake. They want to be powerless so they can reap the rewards of pretending to resist while risking nothing and attempting nothing. They are the reason the country is where it is and we won't be safe until they're gone.
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the checks must have cleared for chucky
 
K1052 said:
When god damned Susan Rice thinks you are fucking up the anger isn’t just from the left flank, it’s from the deep middle core of the party.

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Schumer somehow managed to pick the worst way to handle this situation.

If he started off with "a shutdown will further precipitate federal firings" and stuck with that path, or just full on "no" for this CR, I feel like those things could be understandable. But he decided to do the second, then flip to the first rationale...
 
I just tried to listen to a clip on Bluesky that had Chucky respond to a good question, and I had to turn it off. I have never punched a display in my life, but I got close. I also do not watch Trump speak or any of the worst republicans for the same reason.

He's so fucking dumb and feckless, or maybe he is a Russian plant too. I mean he has helped get us here too.
 
MrSquished said:
I just tried to listen to a clip on Bluesky that had Chucky respond to a good question, and I had to turn it off. I have never punched a display in my life, but I got close. I also do not watch Trump speak or any of the worst republicans for the same reason.

He's so fucking dumb and feckless, or maybe he is a Russian plant too. I mean he has helped get us here too.
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Chuck is the ultimate institutionalist which means he has no clue what to do when the institutions have collapsed. Dude needs to go.
 
JTsyo said:
What about this CR has the Republicans not in support in the Senate?
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Needs 60 votes for cloture before a simple majority vote to pass. All Rs are yes but that only takes them to 53 (52 minus Rand Paul). They need D votes for cloture unless they change the rules and ditch the filibuster.
 
I personally think the filibuster is gonna be toast. Either Republicans never let go of power and it's pure gravy or in some shocking twist there's still an election in 2028, Dems win, AND Vance certifies it (lol) then even in that instance it's not like the Dems would ever benefit from a lack of a filibuster as much as the GoP would. The GoP always moves at lightning speed to implement their agenda and don't care if their base approves. Dems by contrast are afraid of their own shadow and don't do much of anything when they have power, often triping over the very first procedural hurdle that the GoP just walks over. The political calculation for the GoP now is to just go for broke and grab whatever goodies they want, knowing full well they'll never pay a price for it.
 
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Sonikku said:
I personally think the filibuster is gonna be toast. Either Republicans never let go of power and it's pure gravy or in some shocking twist there's still an election in 2028, Dems win, AND Vance certifies it (lol) then even in that instance it's not like the Dems would ever benefit from a lack of a filibuster as much as the GoP would. The GoP always moves at lightning speed to implement their agenda and don't care if their base approves. Dems by contrast are afraid of their own shadow and don't do much of anything when they have power, often triping over the very first procedural hurdle that the GoP just walks over. The political calculation for the GoP now is to just go for broke and grab whatever goodies they want, knowing full well they'll never pay a price for it.
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The current version of the filibuster has to go. Go back to the original version of people having to talk for hours on end until they couldn't anymore. It was a last ditch attempt to see if some minds could be changed not a never ending procedural block.
 
Sonikku said:
I personally think the filibuster is gonna be toast. Either Republicans never let go of power and it's pure gravy or in some shocking twist there's still an election in 2028, Dems win, AND Vance certifies it (lol) then even in that instance it's not like the Dems would ever benefit from a lack of a filibuster as much as the GoP would. The GoP always moves at lightning speed to implement their agenda and don't care if their base approves. Dems by contrast are afraid of their own shadow and don't do much of anything when they have power, often triping over the very first procedural hurdle that the GoP just walks over. The political calculation for the GoP now is to just go for broke and grab whatever goodies they want, knowing full well they'll never pay a price for it.
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The progressive wing of the party and the progressive voters of the dem party have all been proven correct about years of criticizing the corporate centrist Dem leadership. It's time for them to go.
 
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