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Democratic Party - Clueless & Feckless - is the D party done?

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RalphTheCow said:
We basically have two choices, like it or not. And a distant third that can function very well as a spoiler.
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Not anymore. After 32 years of thinking that, I no longer think that. The Democratic party is a failure, I've articulated it quite well.

They need to go or become a much smaller party. They are incapable of some of the most basic functions that a party should do in the face of opposition. Most of these people are so fucking insulated in their privilege, And so out of touch that it's gross. And then if many of the rest they don't have any fucking balls. There are some good ones but it's not enough to maintain being a major political party here.

I'd love to see them lose lots of democratic registered voters. You'd hope it might teach them something but I don't think they're capable of learning.
 
MrSquished said:
Not anymore. After 32 years of thinking that, I no longer think that. The Democratic party is a failure, I've articulated it quite well.

They need to go or become a much smaller party. They are incapable of some of the most basic functions that a party should do in the face of opposition. Most of these people are so fucking insulated in their privilege, And so out of touch that it's gross. And then if many of the rest they don't have any fucking balls. There are some good ones but it's not enough to maintain being a major political party here.

I'd love to see them lose lots of democratic registered voters. You'd hope it might teach them something but I don't think they're capable of learning.
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Well the ones we lost in 2024 got trump elected, just like Nader got bush elected. But at least Perot got Clinton elected, I think it was. Memory a little foggy on that one.
 
RalphTheCow said:
Well the ones we lost in 2024 got trump elected, just like Nader got bush elected.
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Oh yes let's blame everyone else but the fucking party. The main reason the Democrats lost people in 2024 is because they shoved Biden down our throats, and he created a colossal fuck up that was easy to see from a mile away. They fucked us over.
 
MrSquished said:
Oh yes let's blame everyone else but the fucking party. The main reason the Democrats lost people in 2024 is because they shoved Biden down our throats, and he created a colossal fuck up that was easy to see from a mile away. They fucked us over.
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I think the main issue is we just can’t find a candidate to rally around.
 
Cory Booker is sounding pathetic, he is my senator. The guy seems like just an out of touch privileged guy probably enjoying expensive dinners with his pharma bro lobbyist buddies. Out of touch, privileged.
 
MrSquished said:
Oh yes let's blame everyone else but the fucking party. The main reason the Democrats lost people in 2024 is because they shoved Biden down our throats, and he created a colossal fuck up that was easy to see from a mile away. They fucked us over.
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Shoved Harris down our throats too and she was too much of a suckup to corporate interests to even run on the $2000 a year out of pocket cap on Medicare Part D she helped pass. Absolutely ridiculous to not be screaming from megaphones constantly about the policy that protects the highest turnout demographic from their greatest fear, eg, seniors being bankrupted by the cost of medicine, that she cast the tie-breaking vote to pass.
 
SteveGrabowski said:
Shoved Harris down our throats too and she was too much of a suckup to corporate interests to even run on the $2000 a year out of pocket cap on Medicare Part D she helped pass. Absolutely ridiculous to not be screaming from megaphones constantly about the policy that protects the highest turnout demographic from their greatest fear, eg, seniors being bankrupted by the cost of medicine, that she cast the tie-breaking vote to pass.
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I disagree there. Harris was the only choice. She only had a few months to run and they made a few crucial mistakes but still didn't lose by much. She also did a lot of things right. I don't blame her really, she was fucked over BECAUSE OF BIDEN! She had to start an entire campaign out of nothing in a week. It was a colossal task that Biden forced upon us and of course miscalculations were going to be made - Biden deprived us of having a regular length campaign, and the Dem party let him do it.

This all starts with Biden. And for anyone who says well, he was the incumbent, and this is how it works! Since when do we crown fucking kings? Biden was untouchable because he was an incumbent? That's scary talk. A fucking major political party representing tens of millions of people needs to be able to put forth the best way to defeat the other party, especially when we all knew what it meant, fascism. If it's painfully and clearly evident your incumbent is not the right guy AT ALL, well then, get your shit together, act like people who are supposed to care about the country, and make sure the king does not run again. That's your jobs! You are literally the leaders of a party that runs the fucking USA - you are supposed to be competent. But the entire Dem party was not competent, and gave us Trump 2025. And even worse, they have no idea what to do now. Project 2025 had years to plan this, and they wrote a manual! And the Dems are still fucking clueless.

Bye Dems.
 
I just blame Biden, who pretended that he was just dealing with what used to be known as the loyal opposition. He did not take advantage of the SCOTUS ruling that said he was untouchable and make certain things impossible for the Trumplicans to do.
 
MrSquished said:
I disagree there. Harris was the only choice. She only had a few months to run and they made a few crucial mistakes but still didn't lose by much. She also did a lot of things right. I don't blame her really, she was fucked over BECAUSE OF BIDEN! She had to start an entire campaign out of nothing in a week. It was a colossal task that Biden forced upon us and of course miscalculations were going to be made - Biden deprived us of having a regular length campaign, and the Dem party let him do it.

This all starts with Biden. And for anyone who says well, he was the incumbent, and this is how it works! Since when do we crown fucking kings? Biden was untouchable because he was an incumbent? That's scary talk. A fucking major political party representing tens of millions of people needs to be able to put forth the best way to defeat the other party, especially when we all knew what it meant, fascism. If it's painfully and clearly evident your incumbent is not the right guy AT ALL, well then, get your shit together, act like people who are supposed to care about the country, and make sure the king does not run again. That's your jobs! You are literally the leaders of a party that runs the fucking USA - you are supposed to be competent. But the entire Dem party was not competent, and gave us Trump 2025. And even worse, they have no idea what to do now. Project 2025 had years to plan this, and they wrote a manual! And the Dems are still fucking clueless.

Bye Dems.
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I can't believe the level of benefit of doubt you want to give the Democrats. Like they didn't know a year ago that Biden was gone and unelectable. Like it's some accident they waited until Biden shit his pants on national TV at the debate when it was too late to do anything but run Harris. Nonstop deflection and accusing anyone questioning Biden's fitness of spreading right wing conspiracy theories. They handpicked a loser who couldn't win a single primary last time to combat the guy who was clearly going to take our republic away. We got no voice and it's like you want to absolve the DNC and make only Biden the fall guy.

Also I don't know how anyone can defend putting Liz Cheney front and center in your campaign instead of say this amazing benefit you got passed that will make an enormous difference for seniors so they don't have to live in fear of being bankrupted by chemo drugs and such.
 
SteveGrabowski said:
I can't believe the level of benefit of doubt you want to give the Democrats. Like they didn't know a year ago that Biden was gone and unelectable. Like it's some accident they waited until Biden shit his pants on national TV at the debate when it was too late to do anything but run Harris. Nonstop deflection and accusing anyone questioning Biden's fitness of spreading right wing conspiracy theories. They handpicked a loser who couldn't win a single primary last time to combat the guy who was clearly going to take our republic away. We got no voice and it's like you want to absolve the DNC and make only Biden the fall guy.

Also I don't know how anyone can defend putting Liz Cheney front and center in your campaign instead of say this amazing benefit you got passed that will make an enormous difference for seniors so they don't have to live in fear of being bankrupted by chemo drugs and such.
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I'm not sure what you are reading because I did not give the Dems the benefit of the doubt at all, in fact, all I did was call them out and blame them!
 
Another high profile Dem proving the party is a failure. Still talking about finding a middle/common ground on some issues with these people. The Dem party is simply stupidly out of touch at this point.

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MrSquished said:
Another high profile Dem proving the party is a failure. Still talking about finding a middle/common ground on some issues with these people. The Dem party is simply stupidly out of touch at this point.

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New York Times Opinion (@nytopinion.nytimes.com)

"It is very clear that, if there is a middle of all of this hot mess of division, Americans want us to work together when we can and find common ground," Sen. Amy Klobuchar tells the Opinion writer Michelle Cottle...
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Read between the lines..

Every dem is on the payroll of the corporations/ billionaires and are being told to roll over!

You may give them the votes but they line their pockets.
 
Of course the Dems didn't go with this guy, who maybe had a bit of hope to him. Just a bit but something. Of course teh Dems went the other way. They are a failed party. Time to move on. Let's destroy them so we can get a party ready to fight Trump.

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The Vichy Dems - good name. At this point the Dems have done nothing to stop these nominations, and in fact, usually around half of them also approve them, if not more! We literally have a treasury secretary handing over sensitive info and the governments payment systems to DOGE and Musk! not obstructed by any Dem.

At this point, I mean that is literally a form of collaboration.
 
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