Democrat vs. Republican

[Red Dawn]

<< If I had to pay NO taxes, I would have an extra $30,000+ to split between me and my charities. >>

If my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle.

 

[GasX]

I didn't say it would be 50/50, but I would increase my donations...

(nice one, btw)

 

[SJ]

Do you dumbfvck democrats not understand.

Throwing money at things DOES NOT WORK. In most places schools spend 12,000-15,000 per kid, per year. Private schools spend around $8k. Educations WILL NOT GET BETTER if you throw money at it. Parents have to be involved, they have to parent. All the money in the world will not get kids to learn.

Politics have NO buisness in education. All it does is cause more problems. Millions, probably billions are wasted a year by politicans, when it comes to &quot;education&quot;. I've seen school boards and super intendents burn through money on useless stuff. I've seen them blow budgets in short times. Most school districts have millions of dollars of money missing/unaccounted for. Throwing money at education will not solve a damn thing.

As for welfare programs, they need to motivate people to get jobs. Even in times of a recession there are jobs out there. The person may not like the job, but hey thats tough, they shouldn't be able to live off the government long term.

Healthcare, I certainly don't agree with democrats, and I don't agree with republicans either.

Im not a blow hard repbulican. I agree with democrats on some issue. I agree with republicans on more, and sometimes I don't agree with either. I vote on the issues, which 9 times out of 10 means I will end up voting republican. And I hate the green party and Nader.

1. Im pro big buisness, MS hasn't hurt the consumer anymore than other large-medium companies. If you ask me companies like Walmart have hurt consumers more.
2. I could care less what other countries think of the US, 9 times out of 10 its because they are jealous(ie: the EU wants to be the US, but it will never happen with their socialist ways).
3. Education matters, but politics should not be a part of it
4. Im pro gun
5. Im for the legalization of &quot;pot&quot;, in a restricted manner(ie can't carry more than Xgrams on your person, have to buy it from a registered pharmacy, have to be registered with the state, have to be 18. No street dealing etc.) Im not for legalization of anything else. crack, X, and others have(maybe not all people, but in alot of people) severe health effects after a period of time. Dealers that sell drugs like crack, acid etc, should be put in prison for their life time. Users should be put in rehab for two-four years, instead of being put in jail for 8-20..
6. We should protect our interests, not others. Its the United States not the United World. The EU protects its intersts, very few complain about them, we should protect ours, no matter how much the socialist countries bitch.
7. I can't stand PETA or those far to the left. Which include those that are pro abortion but anti death penalty and those that are whacko enviromentalists. Preserving the enviorment is one thing, but alot of these people are whacko.
8. I like tax cuts.
9. I could care less about Affirmitive Action, but people need to understand racism works both ways. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are racists, as are alot of other people, no matter what the color of their skin. I've seen blacks be racist to fellow blacks, same way with every race.

I think Bush is doing a good job so far. I'm sure 50% don't think so, but thats always the case.

 

[NesuD]

<< Hell I think we could use an additional 6-10% in taxes.... would allow us to put some serious money into fixing out healthcare, and education messes.... >>



I think that one of the greatest objections to tax increases is the dismal record of the federal government in the past 30 or so years of actually demonstrating a discernable benefit as a result the extra revenues collected. The typical scenario until recently has been a tax increase to better fund many social programs that would benefit typical Americans. Unfortunately in all to many instances only pennies on the dollar actually reached the intended beneficiaries or the monies were diverted altogether in one or another pork barrel project or simply disappeared down a bureacratic blackhole. Look at the defense budget. How many times have we heard of a defense project budget overruns? Not only do virtually all of them overrun their budgets they do it in a big way not 2 or 3 percent over budget but 30, 60 100% or more. I can't recall hearing of a single major defense program as in budgets over 1 billion dollars ever coming in at or under budget. It always seems that if the contractor is over budget then they just ask for more money an congress gives it to them. The main point is how can we as the tax paying public trust our government to responsibly handle the tax dollars they are entrusted with managing. The answer is simple we can't. Congress has demonstrated many times over that their primary concern is perpetuating their reelection. That means bending over for the special interest groups that have lots of money to fund their reelection campaigns. If that means looking the other way when a large defense program badly overruns it's budget you can be sure someone is making it up to some congressman somewhere with some type of campaign contribution. Same goes for social programs hundreds of millions of dollars funnelled into a popular liberal social program but only pennies on the dollar ever actually reach the intended recipients the rest being eaten up by a diverse group of bureaucrats private contractors and middlemen. There is certain to be a pac someplace that is funded by this group of bureaucrats private contractors and middlemen making it worth some congressmans trouble. Both sides of the aisle bear the guilt of this perception which is why even though I am a conservative i can't in good conscience bring myself to join the republican party.

 

[SJ]

Three words.

The Big Dig

Now talk about a waste, if that thing comes in under $20billion I'll be amazed.

Thats another thing, I am ANTI-Kennedy.

 

[Xesh]

I noticed a few Democrats rewriting the original story, and pretty much each one still had the Democrat taking fifty dollars from the Republican's pocket. It really doesn't matter where those fifty dollars go or where those fifty dollars would have gone; stealing is stealing, and the fifty dollars belong to the Republican. This is the idea of private ownership, and if you disagree with that, you're a communist (and i'm not saying &quot;communists are evil&quot; or anything like that). The way I see it, Robin Hood is a thief and therefore a criminal.

The ideological basis behind taxation is not that homeless people deserve welfare or that healthcare should be free for everybody, etc. It's that people owe some of what they earn to the society that enables them to earn it. This ideology does not justify giant taxes for rich people to pay for everything the poor people need.

What really irritate me are you people who bash the guy who gives 5% of his earnings to charities. That's what charities are for - to let generous people be generous. Even if he gave just ten dollars every year, those are ten dollars that he earned and didn't have to give away. If some guy wants to be completely selfish with his millions of dollars and keep it all to himself, that may not be morally good or kind, but it's his right. To look at a contribution in terms of what somebody doesn't give is just absurd.

But please, do not label me a Democrat-basher. I don't think that Democrats are blood-sucking pirates. For the most part, they have good intentions and their own ideas on how to better society. They're just wrong.

 

[shiner]

Let the federal government fix health care? Yeah...I'm sure they can make health care just as high quality and efficient as they have the Post Office.

To quote Ronald Reagan
&quot;The scariest words in the English language are; I'm from the government and I'm here to help.&quot;

 

[Red Dawn]

<< Do you dumbfvck democrats not understand >>

And neither do most Republicans. The differences between the parties isn't as great as you think.



<< 1. Im pro big buisness, MS hasn't hurt the consumer anymore than other large-medium companies. If you ask me companies like Walmart have hurt consumers more >>

I'm Pro Small Business. I truly feel that if left alone Big Business will try and screw the Consumer and the small Biusiness owner. The Small Business owner has to answer to the customer. Big Business wipes out it's competition so it has to answer to nobody. I don't want to do away with Big Business I just want to have someone keep an eye on them dso they don't go hog wild like those Texas Price Gougers Enron



<< 4. Im pro gun >>

Not me. Hand Guns are a bain to Society. They cause way more harm than good. However, because there are so many guns out there in the hands of Criminals and so many Whackos that are Pro Gun I don't advocate doing away with them. This is an issue that needs to be constantly studied and debated. For every Positive aspect of the right to own a FGire Arm there seems to be a negative. Same goes for the argument to do away with them. I believe the mistake was made when the Second Amamedment was drawn allowing the right to bear arms. Unfortunately I believe that it would be next to impossible to reverse the damage. It's like a cancer that is too far advanced to cure.




<< Healthcare, I certainly don't agree with democrats, and I don't agree with republicans either. >>

All I know is that we need to do something to make Health Care available to all. Because one is poor is not a valid reason for not giving them proper health care. They deserve to live as healthy a life as much as someone who inherited their wealth.



<< vote on the issues, which 9 times out of 10 means I will end up voting republican >>

I might find myself supporting more of the conservative issues but I rarely vote for a Republican as most of them seem to be as full of Sh!t as the Left wing Democrats. If the Republicans would distances themselves from the Religious Right Lunatic Fringe I might be more inclined to syupport them. Until then I will stay an Independent.




<< . I could care less about Affirmitive Action, but people need to understand racism works both ways. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are racists, as are alot of other people, no matter what the color of their skin. I've seen blacks be racist to fellow blacks, same way with every race >>

I see &quot;The Reverend&quot; Jesse Jackosn and Big Fat Al as wankers who use programs like AA to advance their whacked out agenda. As far as AA is concerned, it doesn't just benefit the Blacks, but all Minorities. However, it can be extremely unfair in certain circumstances (like education) and it needs to be reworked so that the brightest aren't hurt by it, no matter what race they are.

Of course I reserve the right to change my mind on any of the issues. To be a steadfast Conservative or Liberal is to be closed minded. I also believe that this Nations Problems can't just be blamed on one Party. Like the Enenrgy Situation here in California, both Parties share equal blame.

 

[monto]

haha that's so jacked

 

[Phokus]

Good post Red Dawn. 10 bucks says some dumbass conservative calls you a commie pinko or something.

 

[Xesh]

Red Dawn, you commie pinko!!!!

j/k

 

[WordSmith2000]

<< There is nothing tax related about my charitable giving. I personally gave over $5000 to charities last year and through a foundation that I am a board member of directed another $50,000. If I had to pay NO taxes, I would have an extra $30,000+ to split between me and my charities. >>



So, you make 500,000 a year, and donate 5,000?

uhuh

Well, I make 500 million a year, and donate 500,000!
Oh, and my aunt also has balls!

Whatacrockashit.

 

[LordMaul]

IT'S TRUE, DAMMIT!

 

[shiner]

Red Dawn is a Commie Pinko


Had to do it Red

 

[GasX]

<< So, you make 500,000 a year, and donate 5,000?

uhuh

Well, I make 500 million a year, and donate 500,000!
Oh, and my aunt also has balls!

Whatacrockashit. >>


Wow, you really suck at math. I said 5% not 1%. Since you are simple minded as well as close minded I will do the math for you:

100,000 x 5% = 5,000 That's 5% gross not net. On a take home basis, that's a months pay. Do you donate a month of your precious billable time?

I wouldn't be surprised if your aunt did have balls.