Dell Venue 8 Pro

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bearxor

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It's a bit harder on a 8" tab, but doable. I didn't have very many issues on the Surface Pro. Everything is kind of adjusted by default to make it a little bigger. I was even able to grab windows and resize them and stuff.

Office is classic, currently. MS is working on the touch version of Office.
 

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Is the lack of a stylus a big deal when using a Windows 8 tablet? I am trying to imagine running applications in the classic desktop and I would think a finger would just be too big to hit any of the controls with any type of precision.

Does the included version of Office run as a Metro app or does it run on the classic desktop?

Big reason why I returned mine. Classic x86 applications were not made with touch controls in mind, they were designed to be used with a precise mouse pointer.
 

Imaginer

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Is the lack of a stylus a big deal when using a Windows 8 tablet? I am trying to imagine running applications in the classic desktop and I would think a finger would just be too big to hit any of the controls with any type of precision.

Does the included version of Office run as a Metro app or does it run on the classic desktop?

Not if using the entire touchscreen as a trackpad.

There is a free software that can do this. TouchMousePointer.

On my Acer Icona W3 810, while I was to manipulate things directly one to one with my fingers in the desktop, under 150% scaling, I have resorted to TouchMousePointer for a few things. The screen, because it is like the resistive feel of past Tablet PCs, made me leverage this option more than on my Surface Pro and Pro 2.

For office work on a small device, the discrepancy lies in document input and feedback in viewing your entered text/numbers. The on-screen keyboard (the split thumb one is easily the best option) is doable.

With caveats...

With the desktop Office and how in the desktop areas, the on-screen keyboard does not deploy automatically like in Modern apps, one has to click or poke the keyboard icon to bring the keyboard manually. This also can obscure a good portion of the widescreen aspect ratio of the already. This can be alieviated, using the "Screen split" icon next to the close icon of the virtual keyboard, which would tile the keyboard and all of the working space of the desktop. I have resorted to this for very short text input without having to place my device down or find a table or place to sit. Granted, for intense text and number entry, you will need a dock or external keyboard no matter what the device is.

The pen, by default in many user's eyes, is the default go to solution. This is been long existent in the Tablet PC realm. With this option, you can input text and numbers by the OCR handwriting keyboard which works well enough - and works as well enough given deployed circumstances. This is not for long essays however, short text input and sentences is what I found this being viable. You can also use this to point at things.

The biggest difference in the pen and trackpad, is the pen eliminates the small but noticable over time, drag, sliding, and zeroing-to-the-target time of the trackpad. It also allows for a much finer manipulation of dense, small UI. Which is another trade-off in device size to function and computational power.

These are the current (in my analysis) drawbacks of having the input sharing the screen with the output. This applies (again) no matter what the device. With Modern app paradigms that Microsoft has set to take, they make use of things being hidden when not being in use, like any mobile device there is.


Of course, if using the device in a portrait mode, the 16:9 16:10 aspect ratio makes much more sense. It gives plenty of vertical room to have the keyboard and have your feedback visual output at the same time. It brings the visual area more in line as with the 4:3 aspects.
 
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Desktop is probably not pleasant to use on 7 and 8 inchers without keyboard and dock, but at least there are useful options, albeit expensive ones, for a keyboard and USB dock with monitor output to give a Windows desktop experience. That is something Droid and iPads tablets can't claim to offer.
 

jacktesterson

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The internet browsing experience is the best I've ever had on any tablet. This includes a Nexus 10, Nexus 7 2013 and a iPad 3.

Its so smooth, with all the features of desktop browsers and extensions, full flash support, etc.

The screen is surprisingly nice for the screen resolution.

Add in full support to play or open any file out there.

Bay trail is surprisingly adequate. It feels fast to use.

Device feels solid. Easy to hold. Back material is great. Weight is distributed well.

Stock MS keyboard is great.

Speaker is loudest of any tablet I've used.

8 inches is the best size for a tablet in my opinion

Tons of potential. Its a neat device.
 
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The internet browsing experience is the best I've ever had on any tablet. This includes a Nexus 10, Nexus 7 2013 and a iPad 3.

Its so smooth, with all the features of desktop browsers and extensions, full flash support, etc.

The screen is surprisingly nice for the screen resolution.

Add in full support to play or open any file out there.

Bay trail is surprisingly adequate. It feels fast to use.

Device feels solid. Easy to hold. Back material is great. Weight is distributed well.

Stock MS keyboard is great.

Speaker is loudest of any tablet I've used.

8 inches is the best size for a tablet in my opinion

Tons of potential. Its a neat device.

Mobile IE is definitely more suited to mobile than other browsers such as FF and Chrome thanks to its interface. Everything is out of the way when reading and the two bars are well-designed. Windows keyboard is definitely nice; even down to the keyboard sound.
 

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I'm too busy to do another write up, but I've been using my v8p daily since early December and its still amazing in every way. Never touch my n7 2013 anymore. Performance is surprisingly good as well
 

dlock13

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Where can I get one for under $199? I'm sad I missed the refurb deal on the 64 GB version!
 

OBLAMA2009

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you guys have convinced me too, even though i hate the weirdly placed windows button. where is the best place to get it. i saw they had one version at staples for $229 even though im going to get the one with more memory, is that a decent place to get one
 

Necrolezbeast

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Good to hear. This little guy is amazingly useful, and snappy as well. It really nailed the niche I needed to fill as an extremely portable device that is capable of both productivity and consumption. I have a gaming laptop used as a dtr and I tried a few tablets before I got the venue 8 pro and it's the perfect sidekick.

I use it and a miracast receiver as an interactive whiteboard and presenter in my classroom. I do the majority of my university work on it with the help of a bt mouse and keyboard. I use it for browsing, media consumption, and reading in bed... At home I still prefer my fangbook, but I find myself using the venue 8 pro more and more, unless I'm doing something cpu/gpu/storage intensive.
 

RKS

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Where can I get one for under $199? I'm sad I missed the refurb deal on the 64 GB version!

I got the 32GB version refurb at a local Microcenter. I think it was about $160 and it came with an unregistered MSO 2013. I did purchase a cheap stylus and case/cover. The main downside is that after the OS and various other apps, there isn't much storage left so I purchased a 32GB MicroSD card but I really like the device and use it more than my Surface Pro.
 

ControlD

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you guys have convinced me too, even though i hate the weirdly placed windows button. where is the best place to get it. i saw they had one version at staples for $229 even though im going to get the one with more memory, is that a decent place to get one

I thought maybe Microcenter had them for cheaper than that, although I'm not sure if that is still true. Sadly the closest Microcenter is more than 100 miles from me so I'll probably just order one from Microsoft.
 

dlock13

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I got the 32GB version refurb at a local Microcenter. I think it was about $160 and it came with an unregistered MSO 2013. I did purchase a cheap stylus and case/cover. The main downside is that after the OS and various other apps, there isn't much storage left so I purchased a 32GB MicroSD card but I really like the device and use it more than my Surface Pro.

I thought maybe Microcenter had them for cheaper than that, although I'm not sure if that is still true. Sadly the closest Microcenter is more than 100 miles from me so I'll probably just order one from Microsoft.

Microcenter is just as far from me Dave. Thanks for the suggestion, RKS. I really want a 64 GB though!

I'll keep looking around. If someone finds an awesome deal, let me know! Thank you!
 

ControlD

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Microcenter is just as far from me Dave. Thanks for the suggestion, RKS. I really want a 64 GB though!

I'll keep looking around. If someone finds an awesome deal, let me know! Thank you!

Just in case you feel like driving .....

Microcenter is selling the 32GB version for $199 and the 64GB version for $249 but those are in store prices only.
 

dlock13

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Just in case you feel like driving .....

Microcenter is selling the 32GB version for $199 and the 64GB version for $249 but those are in store prices only.

It just wouldn't be worth it. I wish there were more Microcenters, but then they risk becoming like all other large companies.
 
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Just in case you feel like driving .....

Microcenter is selling the 32GB version for $199 and the 64GB version for $249 but those are in store prices only.

If you have a friend who lives near one do what I did. Ask them to buy it for you and ship it to you :)
 

jacktesterson

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Frig... I bought my 32GB model in Canada for $249.99 and that's $50 Off right now.

32GB is enough for me. I put a 32GB MicroSD card in it I had kicking around for storage.
 

ControlD

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I went ahead and ordered one from the MS store. The free return policy sort of sealed the deal for me.
 

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you guys have convinced me too, even though i hate the weirdly placed windows button. where is the best place to get it. i saw they had one version at staples for $229 even though im going to get the one with more memory, is that a decent place to get one

The only reason I hit the "windows" button is to turn it on/off. If you want to bring up the start menu it's way easer to to swipe in from the right side of the screen. My Venue8 pro is my favorite web browsing tablet. My only *real* complaint about it for browsing is the refresh time of pages when you use the browser "back" function. It doesn't really cache the page and bring it up instantly, it takes a couple seconds for it to refresh and display. Kind of annoying if you are doing it commonly.

Oh and for some reason images on reddit won't show up well. You need to tap the line they are on or else they are sort of grayed out.
 

dlock13

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you guys have convinced me too, even though i hate the weirdly placed windows button. where is the best place to get it. i saw they had one version at staples for $229 even though im going to get the one with more memory, is that a decent place to get one

Just make sure it is the Venue 8 Pro. I'm on Staples' website, and I see the Venue (Android tab) listed at $229.
 

quikah

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Oh and for some reason images on reddit won't show up well. You need to tap the line they are on or else they are sort of grayed out.

That is a reddit feature that greys out images until you have mouse focus over the page. I am at work, but there are options to change the behavior. check your reddit preferences.
 

bearxor

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I can't wait to hear what your take on the 11" model is once you get a chance to use it for a bit. I have pretty much decided I am getting a W8 tablet of some sort in the near future but which model is still very much up in the air.

First thoughts:
God damn do I hate this aspect ratio. Anything bigger than 8" in 16:9/10 just seems way too awkward to handle.

It is HEAVY when combined with the keyboard. Probably tipping towards 4lbs, but I'll measure it sometime this weekend. Having said that, however, it is basically all battery and you get over 14 hours of run time with the keyboard attached. The tablet itself is a little heavy on it's own though, but it's probably because I've been using an iPad pretty much 100% for a few months now.

Plan to put this thing through its paces big time over the weekend, as that's basically all the time I'll have with it. Have to try and get Win7 on there by the middle of next week.
 

jacktesterson

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First thoughts:
God damn do I hate this aspect ratio. Anything bigger than 8" in 16:9/10 just seems way too awkward to handle.

It is HEAVY when combined with the keyboard. Probably tipping towards 4lbs, but I'll measure it sometime this weekend. Having said that, however, it is basically all battery and you get over 14 hours of run time with the keyboard attached. The tablet itself is a little heavy on it's own though, but it's probably because I've been using an iPad pretty much 100% for a few months now.

Plan to put this thing through its paces big time over the weekend, as that's basically all the time I'll have with it. Have to try and get Win7 on there by the middle of next week.

Windows 7 on a tablet? What's the point? Buy a Laptop.