Dell UltraSharp 2005FP 20.1" WSXGA Widescreen LCD 1680x1050 $506 Shipped AC/AR

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h3nG

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Originally posted by: cheap
Like some people said, you can rotate the LCD or it it's not possible, take it off the stand and hang it with screws, then go to your advanced display properties and rotate the image 90 degrees and you will end up with tall screen.

lol, nice feature iindeed...

but anyone else tried it? it's crazy weird man...
 
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I've been doing it on my 2001FP and it works great. It was a feature I didn't think I'd ever use, but I've found myself rotating it back and forth quite a bit here lately. It makes my monitor seem like its really wide after looking at how tall it becomes. I can only imagine what its like on one of these.
 

thawolfman

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
The 2005FP is a newer panel; slightly better specs, less screendoor effect, and they solved the backlight-leakage with the December 2004 and newer builds.

btw some kind of linkage on this? :D
 

Averox

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Originally posted by: Jombo
wth, i just bought it last night for around $600 w/ tax, and now there is another 40 off coupon? grr..

Same here. They just dropped it by $50 and rolling fatcash into that too. Oh well, I'm not going to cancel my order at this point.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: thawolfman
Originally posted by: jpeyton
The 2005FP is a newer panel; slightly better specs, less screendoor effect, and they solved the backlight-leakage with the December 2004 and newer builds.

btw some kind of linkage on this? :D

The HardForum thread linked in the first post talks about backlight-leakage in the older revisions. The screendoor issue with the 2001FP was documented on several forums, with some people noticing it more than others. The 2005 is a newer panel; slightly lower response-time, better contrast ratio (600:1 vs 400:1 for the 2001), better brightness (300 cd/m2 vs 250 cd/m2 for the 2001).
 

FreshPrince

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Originally posted by: ZombieJesus
Mine was shipping a few days ago and should arrive any day now. As for the usefulness of a widescreen to a gamer rest assured widescreen is the way to go.

Games that support widescreen:

Half Life 2
Doom 3
Homeworld 2
World of Warcraft
Rise of Nations
UT 2004
Warcraft 3 TFT
Medal of Honor
Call of duty
quake 3
quake gl
quake 2

*gj id software.

how do you get UT2004 to play widescreen res?

right now, all I see is standard res., will it detect and show the widescreen res. when I get a widescreen monitor?

 

BigCas

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If anyone still need a dell coupon here it is, first one use it, gets it.
I got it in Dellf and never used because I already have a 2005FPW.


25% off Flat Panel
10JNZSP806?SW2
 

Averox

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Are you guys talking about 2001FP vs 2005FPW or 2005FPW vs newer revision 2005FPW?
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: jpeyton
The 2005FP is a newer panel; slightly better specs, less screendoor effect, and they solved the backlight-leakage with the December 2004 and newer builds.

and it's widescreen.. which is great for movies, but POINTLESS for pc-use.



everything done on a pc is up-and-down. webpages your scroll up and down, documents, etc.


why would you want a monitor that is not as tall?


better specs? the res for the 2001 means a higher total resolution.

can't speak for screendoor affect. neither of my 2001fp's are that bad. one has a little bit on light backgrounds but not much.

backlight leakage? maybe I was lucky?





although that is a good price on the 2005...

You can have two web pages side by side, or a webpage open and be working on a word document at the same time... wide is not pointless in PC computing, we scroll up and down because web pages were designed on small, not so wide screens.

I do agree with you that the 2005 is almost (easily for me) an inferior panel that can't boast as "large" a resolution. 1680x1050 is nice, but 1600x1200 that the 2001 offers ultimately offers more space to work with.

If the 2005 were 1920x1200, I'd go with the 2005 hands down.
 

Lanyap

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Originally posted by: Trianon
Originally posted by: DrVos

We're approaching the end of Dell's fiscal year. They are probably trying to meet quotas and get rid of extra inventory.
They don't keep inventory, everything is built only when the order is placed. Dell orders parts from suppliers when customer finalized his system, no warehouse storage for more than a day, that's their business gimmick
The Dell branded LCD monitors are not built to order like their PCs. One or more major LCD manufacturers make each model (with Made in China/Korea/etc. labels) and provide "just in time" inventory to Dell.

 

cheap

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Good point, 2001 offers 8.1 per cent more screen space. Either 2005's pixels are bigger which will result in blurrier pixture or it's dot pitch is bigger (also not good). Haven't bothered to check the specs so can't say which one it is.
 

Lanyap

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Looks like the 25% off coupon is not working on the 2001FP. I was planning to order it today. Earlier I added it to my cart when it was $799 and the 25% applied along with the $40 off. I decided not to order then. Now they have dropped the price from $799 to $749 but the 25% off will not apply.

:(

 

cheap

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Just checked specs and surprise they don't list dot pitch for 2005. For 2001 they list dot pitch at 0.255 which is a little on a high side I think.
 

jpeyton

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Dot pitch has ZERO relevance if you are comparing fixed-pixel desktop LCD displays.

For 99% of desktop LCDs displays:

15" = 1024x768
17" = 19" = 1280x1024
20"= 1600x1200

The dot pitch, regardless of manufacturer, is exactly the same if you're comparing two LCDs of similar size and native resolution.
 

cheap

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Not really, there are some for example 17" LCDs that do 1200res and some that do 1024 res native. That's what people are saying, this wide LCD has lower resolution (8.1% lower) than 2001 even though they are both the same size.

Also, you wrote:

"Dot pitch has ZERO relevance if you are comparing fixed-pixel desktop LCD displays"

then:
17" = 19" = 1280x1024

That directly contradicts your statement above.

Not so fixed after all. 19" screens that run 1280 native are really 17" with either blown up pixels or bigger dot pitch. Same goes for 17" screens that only do 1024.

If they were fixed-pixels there wouldn't be such res difference.
 

jpeyton

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Dot pitch has little relevance for LCD buyers.

Contrast ratio, brightness, and response time are much more important.
 

nflravensuop

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I was looking for one myself. I saw a few on ebay....but I waited too long, as it is now past midnight, and it seemed they all ended 1/5/05

Anyone know of any other 25% deals that go past 1/5/05?
 

ZombieJesus

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: ZombieJesus
Mine was shipping a few days ago and should arrive any day now. As for the usefulness of a widescreen to a gamer rest assured widescreen is the way to go.

Games that support widescreen:

Half Life 2
Doom 3
Homeworld 2
World of Warcraft
Rise of Nations
UT 2004
Warcraft 3 TFT
Medal of Honor
Call of duty
quake 3
quake gl
quake 2

*gj id software.

how do you get UT2004 to play widescreen res?

right now, all I see is standard res., will it detect and show the widescreen res. when I get a widescreen monitor?

Simply edit the ut2004.ini file

[WinDrv.WindowsClient]
FullscreenViewportX = 1680
FullscreenViewportY = 1050
MenuViewportX = 1680
MenuViewportY = 1050
 

mauiblue

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Originally posted by: nflravensuop
I was looking for one myself. I saw a few on ebay....but I waited too long, as it is now past midnight, and it seemed they all ended 1/5/05

Anyone know of any other 25% deals that go past 1/5/05?

The other Dell 2001/2005 LCD thread has quite a few coupons listed. The one I used is good till 15 Jan 05.

I got mine (2005FPW) today:) and I am freakin' happy!!
 

FreshPrince

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Originally posted by: ZombieJesus
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: ZombieJesus
Mine was shipping a few days ago and should arrive any day now. As for the usefulness of a widescreen to a gamer rest assured widescreen is the way to go.

Games that support widescreen:

Half Life 2
Doom 3
Homeworld 2
World of Warcraft
Rise of Nations
UT 2004
Warcraft 3 TFT
Medal of Honor
Call of duty
quake 3
quake gl
quake 2

*gj id software.

how do you get UT2004 to play widescreen res?

right now, all I see is standard res., will it detect and show the widescreen res. when I get a widescreen monitor?

Simply edit the ut2004.ini file

[WinDrv.WindowsClient]
FullscreenViewportX = 1680
FullscreenViewportY = 1050
MenuViewportX = 1680
MenuViewportY = 1050

thanks!

 

godfathercj69

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Ok lemme tell you all somethin... i'm sure all us techno geeks are sittin in a dark room somewhere getting lost in the wonders of our monitors brightness. I just got the 2005 and dear god this thing is he//a bright!! Right from my generic 19" CRT room heater to this bright mammoth 20" wide screen monitor, its like lookin right into the sun.... you don't want to do it for too long...BRIGHT LIGHT BRIGHT LIGHT!!
 

ZombieJesus

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Remember Dell has a new revison of the monitor out that has no backlight issues called rev a01 if you get a 2005fp with the problem return it asap and demand a01
 

chinkgai

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wow, arent you guys tired of all this widescreen vs regular screen debates?

it really a matter of opinion when it comes to computer monitors while its better for a fact when it comes to tvs