Dell to adopt Opteron!
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ROFLMAO! I can't put a ***CONFIRMED*** tag in the title because it's still an Inquirer story. However, their stories are almost always accurate. Someone recently told me I was an idiot for posting that the NV40 would be 16x1 and have 210M transistors, but that's turning out to probably be true as well.
WooHoo!!! They finally saw the light
maybe some day they just might put athlons in their desktop systems... i won't hold my breath just yet though
maybe some day they just might put athlons in their desktop systems... i won't hold my breath just yet though
Thor86
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So will we be seeing a Dell Opteron, lateron? Looks like it may be on the cards. µ
A Dell Lateron... LOL.
A Dell Lateron... LOL.
"Dell might just be putting the wind up Intel, and reminding it to keep on its toes, of course. It's done that before."
Might want to include the words "maybe" or "possibly" in your title. This is unproven and basically gossip.
Might want to include the words "maybe" or "possibly" in your title. This is unproven and basically gossip.
neutralizer
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A few years ago, yes. Now the entire market has changed since Opteron. In the computing world you can't always see what will happen in the future based off of what has happened in the past.
-Por
Dell's stance has not changed, they will not use AMD, and that's what my reply was based on.....nothing more.
Publically their stance has not changed no. But you can't say that they might not be itching to cash in on the benefits of selling Opteron servers to business' and enterprises'. But they are afraid Intel will severely mark up their processors sales to Dell if they did that.
-Por
And yet another segment of inq vs reality:
01 Informatique interview translated with the 'fish
01 Informatique: You are the only manufacturer to use only INTEL processors. But you currently evaluate AMD's Opteron. Will you use it?
Michael Dell: First of all, I think that to take the x86 instructions and to extend them to 64 bits is a very good idea. But today, AMD is not anymore the only one to support this idea: INTEL does it too. We will thus have servers using x86 processors with 64 bit extensions. And that even before compatible software is available. (so mangled, I won't attempt to fix it: ) As for knowknowing if to propose at the same time servers INTEL and AMD with the catalogue a direction has, the answer is clearly yes.
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The last sentence is what the inq has siezed on. It only means that Michael Dell says it would make sense for a manufacturer to offer both AMD and Intel servers. But that is hardly a confirmation that Dell will offer it. Since the Athlon came out, Dell has used the threat of using AMD processors to pressure Intel for better prices and allocations. And it has always worked. That Dell interview reads almost exactly like another one I read that was dated from 2000.
IOW, don't you think it's strange that inq doesn't even link to the original interview? It's because, in context, it's clear that the statement is ambiguous at best and definitely not a "confirmation."
(edit for mangled smiley)
I realize that you guys are into the big conspiracy stories, where the little guy is getting screwed by the big fish...
But the fact of the matter is that Dell will use AMD the very day that Dell figures they can make money by selling AMD. Try and put yourself in Dell's shoes, as there are a lot of factors involved, such as:
Can AMD guarantee the kind of supply Dell would require? (This is a HUGE factor. Bigger than most of you think.)
Are there customers (businesses) that are going elsewhere to find AMD based PC's?
Is it worth it to now deal with the added (different) components, i.e. motherboards?
Can all of those components' supply be guaranteed?
Are those new components as absolutely reliable as what Dell currently uses?
And even if all of the above works out, would Dell even make more money by selling AMD based PC's?
Like I said, there's a lot to think about if you are Dell. They've been doing pretty damn good with the business model they have, so there would have to be some pretty compelling reasons for them to change.
But the fact of the matter is that Dell will use AMD the very day that Dell figures they can make money by selling AMD. Try and put yourself in Dell's shoes, as there are a lot of factors involved, such as:
Can AMD guarantee the kind of supply Dell would require? (This is a HUGE factor. Bigger than most of you think.)
Are there customers (businesses) that are going elsewhere to find AMD based PC's?
Is it worth it to now deal with the added (different) components, i.e. motherboards?
Can all of those components' supply be guaranteed?
Are those new components as absolutely reliable as what Dell currently uses?
And even if all of the above works out, would Dell even make more money by selling AMD based PC's?
Like I said, there's a lot to think about if you are Dell. They've been doing pretty damn good with the business model they have, so there would have to be some pretty compelling reasons for them to change.
Dell will lose their special Intel 1000 unit pricing if they go opteron. It would cause price increases across the board on every intel PC they sell. And probably not a small one.
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