lambchops511

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Hey

UltraSharp 2007WFP @ 449.00 CND

E207WFP Wide @ 329.00 CND

I can't seem to tell the difference.

Is the 2007 worth the extra money?

Or should I look into other brands too, such as BenQ/Acer?
 

lavaheadache

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the E207wfp is a stripped down version lacking the usb hub found on the 2007wfp. If that is not important to you then go for it
 

BernardP

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In addition, the 2007WFP has a higher-quality 8-bit panel either S-IPS or (not sure S-MVA?). Which one you get is random, which irritates many buyers.

The E207WFP has a 6-bit TN panel.

You might want to do a bit of reading on 20-inch monitors:

20-inch LCD panels comparo

Living in Canada myself, I think that currently the 2007WFP might be overpriced at 449$, unless you can catch it on sale. As for the E207WFP, it is priced right in the middle of the low-end 20-inch widescreen market. Still, one should be patient and wait for a sale.

Personnally, If I was going for a 20-inch widescreen, I would get the Viewsonic VX2025WM for less than 400$ in Canada. It is well-rated in the BeHardware test above.

Arguably, the VX2025WM is better overall than the Dell 2007WFP and is less expensive.
 

BernardP

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Originally posted by: aznium
is the 8-bit panel worth it?

both will support VGA and DVI . correct?
According to the Specs Page, the E207WFP has DVI input. Of course the 2007WPF has it too.

As for the better 8-bit panel being worth it, it depends on the user and usage...There is no doubt the 2007WFP is markedly better.

You are in luck as a quick search turned up reviews of these 2 monitors on the same web site. You read and decide:

E207WFP

2007WFP

As I am easily annoyed by the viewing angle limitations of TN panels (I have a Dell 1907FP w TN panel at work), I would choose the 2007WFP. There is a price difference but, on the life of this monitor, it represents a tiny yearly amount.
I would still go with the Viewsonic VX2025WM ;) You can go to Futureshop and look at it. If you really want the Dell, you can wait for it to go on sale. I would bet you can get it for less than $ 400 if you wait a few weeks.
 

Matt2

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This is your warning:

The 2007wfp that uses the LS/Phillips LM201W01 8-bit S-IPS panel is absolutely beautiful. That's what I have and it's worth every penny.

BUT

Dell has been changing panels on people to a much lower quality S-PVA. Such panels have terrible viewing angles, washed out colors, backlight bleeding and slower response time. If you pay $400 and get a 2007wfp with the S-PVA, you will be disappointed and pissed off.

It's basically a lottery when buying one of these from Dell. Some get the S-IPS and other unfortunate souls get the S-PVA panel.

There is no way to know which one you're going to get until its actually sitting in front of you. The up side is if you do get an S-PVA, Dell has a generous exchange and refund policy. It all depends on how patient you are and if you're willing to go through the hassle of returning the monitor once or twice before you get the S-IPS panel. Most wont bother.

Good luck.

EDIT:

Furthermore, the E207wfp panel is probably not worth it unless you are on a tight budget. The E207wfp uses a TN panel which is not something that is going to please you either. It is only 6-bit which means that TN panels cannot correctly reproduce colors. The only upside to TN panels are that they are cheap and fast, but whats the point when your colors aren't even going to be true?
 

lambchops511

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right now . i have a dell 6400 (15.4 widescreen 1680x1050) laptop . it only has a VGA connection

i want to add a monitor for more producitivity

how would the desktop LCDs compare to my laptop LCD . i find my laptop LCD has annoying glare problem with external lights . also . the lighting is not uniform . the pixels are noticeably darker on the corners.
 

BernardP

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So "productivity" is the word :evil:

If you want to avoid glare, make sure sure to avoid glossy-finish screens, such as NEC.

It's because your laptop screen is normally angled towards the ceiling that you see all those lights reflections.

If you need this screen only for office work, no gaming, nothing where color acuracy or video quality is important, there is no harm in choosing the cheaper E207WFP

Make sure that you can setup the screen precisely at eye level, even with a laptop, as TN panels are unforgiving in the vertical angle. You won't be able to angle the screen as you do with your laptop screen.
 
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Originally posted by: Matt2
This is your warning:

The 2007wfp that uses the LS/Phillips LM201W01 8-bit S-IPS panel is absolutely beautiful. That's what I have and it's worth every penny.

BUT

Dell has been changing panels on people to a much lower quality S-PVA. Such panels have terrible viewing angles, washed out colors, backlight bleeding and slower response time. If you pay $400 and get a 2007wfp with the S-PVA, you will be disappointed and pissed off.

It's basically a lottery when buying one of these from Dell. Some get the S-IPS and other unfortunate souls get the S-PVA panel.

There is no way to know which one you're going to get until its actually sitting in front of you. The up side is if you do get an S-PVA, Dell has a generous exchange and refund policy. It all depends on how patient you are and if you're willing to go through the hassle of returning the monitor once or twice before you get the S-IPS panel. Most wont bother.

Good luck.

EDIT:

Furthermore, the E207wfp panel is probably not worth it unless you are on a tight budget. The E207wfp uses a TN panel which is not something that is going to please you either. It is only 6-bit which means that TN panels cannot correctly reproduce colors. The only upside to TN panels are that they are cheap and fast, but whats the point when your colors aren't even going to be true?

Read up around here. Yes, the S-IPS pannel is very nice. I had one and other than the fact I just got a bad monitor (flashing back light and bad drive circuit) it was great to look at and use. Too bad I had to exchange it and I got the M-PVA this time. It sucks to be nice about it and is going back. I bought the NEC. A monitor is something that you are going to be spending alot of time looking at and using. You really don't say what you are going to do with it. Photos, gamming, etc. If you are anything like me and have over $1,000 dollars in video cards alone, or even if you just have a $500.00 card, why even take a chance on a bad monitor. A good monitor will outlast your computer by a long shot so buy a good, known monitor and be done with it.
 

lambchops511

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i dont think i will risk the 2007 . im not the type that wants to deal with an hassle to return the LCD . and getting a inferior product for that kind of $$$ is painful

http://www.benq.ca/products/LCD/?product=654&page=specifications . how would this LCD compare?

also . my laptop has an X1400 . would it be sufficient to drive the 2nd display . i notice lag when it drives an external 17inch (1280x1024) . and theres already lag when driving larger transparent windows on the laptop's screen without external monitor


and yes, this monitor is basically used for productivity . maybe occasional gaming/movies . and no . i dont have a $500 video card . i got an 9500 pro flashed to 9700pro on my desktop and a x1400 on my laptop
 

BernardP

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Obviously, aznium, the BenQ monitor you are pointing to being 283 $CDN on NCIX.com, your budget is around 300$ and not 400$.

The FP202Wv2 has 16.2 million colors with dithering, which makes it a 6-bit TN panel.

For 300$CDN, you won't be getting a top-tier 8-bit S-IPS monitor. A TN panel can be quite acceptable and provide a pleasing experience if you are aware of its limitations.