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Dell, Gateway adopt Intel's Emergency Edition chip **Update** Dell unable to ship Pentium 4 Expensive Edition yet
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Originally posted by: AgaBooga
No, why would they? After all, consumers want slower speeds at higher costs
No that's what the AMD A64 is for.
P4 Extremely Expensive Emergency Edition...
You can bet what Dell does Gateway will do too.
Check this out too. Intel seem to be in Emergency mode. Maybe the Yamill isn't just around the corner and P4 Emergency edition will have to carry the load for a while.
Itanium software upgrade hits bump
Last modified: November 3, 2003, 10:15 AM PST
By Stephen Shankland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
http://news.com.com/2100-1006_3-5101233.html
A software package that lets Intel's Itanium processors run programs that are tailored to more mainstream Pentium and Xeon chips has had its launch date bumped back from this year.
The software, an Intel package called the IA32 Execution Layer (IA32-EL for short), was scheduled to debut in Service Pack 1 for Microsoft's Windows Server 2003 operating system. However, the introduction of that update has been pushed back from 2003 to the second half of 2004, a Microsoft representative said Friday.
Microsoft still expects to support IA32-EL when Service Pack 1 ships and plans to include the feature in all its versions of Windows for Itanium, the company said.
Microsoft's schedule change means the software is likely to show up earlier in Linux. SuSE Linux plans to include it in SuSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) 9.0, due to ship in the second quarter of 2004, according to the company's chief technology officer, Juergen Geck.
However, the inclusion of the technology in SLES is contingent on Intel's revamping of the software so that it works on the coming 2.6 Linux kernel, Geck said. For example, that kernel dramatically changes how the operating system handles simultaneous tasks, or "threads."
"The abstraction layer (IA32-EL) that Intel provides is very intrusive into the kernel and Glibc (a library of software routines used by Linux programs)," Geck said. "They have to port it to the new architecture...If Intel manages to make that transition smoothly, we expect to see it in SLES 9.0."
Itanium is a 64-bit processor that can handle vastly larger amounts of data than can 32-bit Intel processors such as Xeon and Pentium. However, it uses a very different instruction language than do the Xeon and Pentium and can only run software that's written for those chips very slowly.
IA32-EL translates the Xeon instructions into ones the Itanium can understand, and a 1.5GHz Itanium 2 will be able to run Xeon instructions at about the speed of a 1.4GHz Xeon, according to Intel. Real Xeons currently run at 3.2GHz and will likely operate faster than that by the time IA32-EL arrives.
The schedule change could affect some people that need to run older software that hasn't been reworked for Itanium, but that's a comparatively small group, said Mercury Research analyst Dean McCarron.
"The 32-bit execution layer is going to make Itanium run legacy code better. But if your intent is to run legacy code, you're not going to buy Itanium in the first place--you're going to buy Xeon," McCarron said. "It's not that big an impact."
The Linux version of the IA32-EL software includes a combination of open-source components and proprietary components, Intel spokesman Scott McLaughlin said. (The core of Linux, called the kernel, must be open-source but sometimes includes links to proprietary modules. For example, graphics chipmaker Nvidia supplies proprietary software Linux can use.)
Red Hat, the dominant seller of Linux, plans to make IA32-EL available to Red Hat Enterprise Linux customers in 2004, Intel said. Red Hat declined to comment beyond saying the company continues to work with Intel on the technology
You can bet what Dell does Gateway will do too.
Check this out too. Intel seem to be in Emergency mode. Maybe the Yamill isn't just around the corner and P4 Emergency edition will have to carry the load for a while.
Itanium software upgrade hits bump
Last modified: November 3, 2003, 10:15 AM PST
By Stephen Shankland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
http://news.com.com/2100-1006_3-5101233.html
A software package that lets Intel's Itanium processors run programs that are tailored to more mainstream Pentium and Xeon chips has had its launch date bumped back from this year.
The software, an Intel package called the IA32 Execution Layer (IA32-EL for short), was scheduled to debut in Service Pack 1 for Microsoft's Windows Server 2003 operating system. However, the introduction of that update has been pushed back from 2003 to the second half of 2004, a Microsoft representative said Friday.
Microsoft still expects to support IA32-EL when Service Pack 1 ships and plans to include the feature in all its versions of Windows for Itanium, the company said.
Microsoft's schedule change means the software is likely to show up earlier in Linux. SuSE Linux plans to include it in SuSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) 9.0, due to ship in the second quarter of 2004, according to the company's chief technology officer, Juergen Geck.
However, the inclusion of the technology in SLES is contingent on Intel's revamping of the software so that it works on the coming 2.6 Linux kernel, Geck said. For example, that kernel dramatically changes how the operating system handles simultaneous tasks, or "threads."
"The abstraction layer (IA32-EL) that Intel provides is very intrusive into the kernel and Glibc (a library of software routines used by Linux programs)," Geck said. "They have to port it to the new architecture...If Intel manages to make that transition smoothly, we expect to see it in SLES 9.0."
Itanium is a 64-bit processor that can handle vastly larger amounts of data than can 32-bit Intel processors such as Xeon and Pentium. However, it uses a very different instruction language than do the Xeon and Pentium and can only run software that's written for those chips very slowly.
IA32-EL translates the Xeon instructions into ones the Itanium can understand, and a 1.5GHz Itanium 2 will be able to run Xeon instructions at about the speed of a 1.4GHz Xeon, according to Intel. Real Xeons currently run at 3.2GHz and will likely operate faster than that by the time IA32-EL arrives.
The schedule change could affect some people that need to run older software that hasn't been reworked for Itanium, but that's a comparatively small group, said Mercury Research analyst Dean McCarron.
"The 32-bit execution layer is going to make Itanium run legacy code better. But if your intent is to run legacy code, you're not going to buy Itanium in the first place--you're going to buy Xeon," McCarron said. "It's not that big an impact."
The Linux version of the IA32-EL software includes a combination of open-source components and proprietary components, Intel spokesman Scott McLaughlin said. (The core of Linux, called the kernel, must be open-source but sometimes includes links to proprietary modules. For example, graphics chipmaker Nvidia supplies proprietary software Linux can use.)
Red Hat, the dominant seller of Linux, plans to make IA32-EL available to Red Hat Enterprise Linux customers in 2004, Intel said. Red Hat declined to comment beyond saying the company continues to work with Intel on the technology
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Anyone who buys an Itanium to primarily run 32bit IA32 code is a moron. When we bought ours, we did in house developing and made sure it was put to good use as soon as it arrived.
Anyone who buys an Itanium to primarily run 32bit IA32 code is a moron. When we bought ours, we did in house developing and made sure it was put to good use as soon as it arrived.
Originally posted by: OverVolt
then call is the worlds best gaming expierence, and bundle it with a ghosting LCD heheh.Originally posted by: Jeff7
Think they'll bundle it with some Intel Extreme graphics too?
lmao i dun know how many times oems have pulled that trick.
wow about 1000 bucks for a space heater 137 watts of heat, vs 700 or so for an FX51 runing at 67watts, let's see if dell keeps their reputation for quiet computers with this chip lmao.
It's unfortunate, but Intel has the name recognition factor and some heavy hitters in the market. Not saying they make substandard products, but $1000 for a CPU is ridiculous. Partly it's AMD's fault too, when was the last time you saw or read an Athlon 64 commercial or ad in the paper? AMD needs to hype itself...The market needs AMD, or we will see more and more CPUs at these ridiculous costs. True, the FX-51 is expensive too, but there is still a lot of difference between $800 and $1000.
$700+ plus the additional cost of registered memory. The EE and FX platforms are basically the same in cost.
92W is the typical thermal power, maximum power will be (4/3) * 92 = 122W. AMD has listed 89W as the max thermal power for the entire Hammer series of CPUs. This would be a typical thermal power of (3/4) * 89 = 67W.
The fastest Hammer CPU will have at most a typical thermal power of 67W; the current crop of CPUs from AMD won't come close to that number.
There is a huge difference in heat output between a P4EE and a Athlon64/AthlonFX
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