Dell 3007WFP-HC versus HP LP3065: More DVI inputs or a newer model?

[DualMonitors]

Dell is coming out in one week with the update to their current "NON-HC" 3007 30" LCD monitor, called the 3007WFP-HC, which is quite similar to the same priced HP LP3065.

the HP has 3 dvi inputs, the new Dell HC model has 1 dvi. on the other hand, the new Dell is a "newer" model so it may well have more enhancements like the WIDE W-CCFL backlighting which is supposed to be superior. It is unclear if the HP 30" has the same W-CCFL backlighting. the W-CCFL in the Dell HC model is superior to the Dell current 3007 NON-HC model.

The prices of the HP is the same as the new upcoming Dell HC both at $1,699. (for comparison, the current Dell non-HC is at $1,275).

Tough question?

HP?s review that came out BEFORE the dell?s HC model came out (comparison of HP vs the current non-HC Dell 30?):

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2077918,00.asp


Dell?s current 30? non-HC:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1907752,00.asp

Dell?s current 30? vs the 30? HC:

http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx

what do y'all think?

I would like to choose between the Dell 30? HC versus the HP: they use the same panel, but the HP has 3 dvi inputs, but the Dell is newer, so it ?may? have additional enhancements.

btw, my current configuration is a 24" dell 16:10 (center, black bezel); and a 21.3" Samsung 4:3 (right side, silver bezel). Would using the 30" new Dell as center, the 24" 16:10 Dell to the right, and the 21.3" Samsung 4:3 to the left make the desk "ramshackle" looking? 2 black bezels and 1 silver, plus all different sizes and dimensions and pixels! i'm just thinking that since selling the 21.3" won't be worth too much and i'm surely keeping the 24" Dell (2405FPW, the earlier 24" Dell LCD).

Thx so much in advance!

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Hi again.

Well... you have to remember that for the multiple DVI connections to be useful, you'd have to have several computer with dual-link DVI output. Other than sources that output dual-link DVI, a 2560x1600 display is pretty worthless.

Unless you have a specific idea in mind where you need multiple computers hooked up to that 30", the multiple DVI inputs doesn't make much sense to me.

I still think the standard 30" Dell is a very good deal unless you really need the best color reproduction you can get for your photoshop work.

 

[DualMonitors]

omigosh...wow...you mean that if i use a cable tv input into one of those 3 dvi inputs of the HP monitor, the fact that the resolution of the display is 2560x1600 doesn't mean just black bars either on left/right or top/bottom? the image would be incorrect? i didn't know that. i thought that whatever you input, you merely get those unwanted black bars! i guess that's why the reviewers all say that these LCD monitors have no "video adjustements" built in , i guess that's what big TV's have that make them very versatile in terms of whatever you input, it can "spit out" with the appropriate black bars?

is my understanding of what you wrote correct?

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

I'm not sure what kind of results you'd get hooking up a cable tv tuner to it. Having DVI as the only option is pretty limiting though.

On the Dell 30" I think that if you do not give it a dual-link connection, the panel defaults to 1280x800. I have not had the experience of using one though, so I'm not sure on all the quirks of how it works when hooked up to non-dual-link sources.

 

[DualMonitors]

oh, i wasn't thinking clearly! yes, the sources need to have Dual Link DVI outputs, right? Cable TV boxes don't have dual link dvi outputs, right? now i'm getting it. i was so focused on the monitor thinking that whatever you input into it, it would be fine. it sounds like it's not nearly that versatile!

my current concern is the ramshackle look of 3 displays:

LEFT: silver bezeled 21.3" Samsung 213T 4:3; CENTER: 30" Dell or 30" HP black bezeled; RIGHT 24" Dell 2405 16:10 black bezeled.

Just imagining it, they are of 3 sizes, 3 resolutions, and even different bezels. On the other hand, the 21.3" Samsung won't have much value if i were to sell it, sort of like why not use my new computer to its advantage/capabilites since it can probably easily handle these 3 LCD's? even if you leave the left one on news or something, the right one on Outlook, and use the center one to do stuff on, it's nice to have certain windows open all the time without the need to open and close all the time. Just thinking out loud. this is a new area for me...sorry...and thx for bearing with me and noddling through this with me.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Yeah, that could work.

I'm just still kind of wondering if you really need all these displays though. A 24" on Outlook and IM duty seems kind of wasteful

 

[TechnoButt]

Anyone want one of these without an xps rig? See the one in my sig that came with it's own service tag and 1070+ days of warranty remaining.

 

[Zebo]

Get the new dell the HP looks like it hit every branch of the ugly tree on the way down. Plus Dells 21 day no questions asked, shipping both ways satisfaction guarantee means you can keep sending them back until you get a perfect one.

To answer your question they are identical panels and back light and essentially came out the same time (HP a month earlier).

 

[BFG10K]

That new Dell is the first LCD I'm seriously considering purchasing.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Get the new dell the HP looks like it hit every branch of the ugly tree on the way down.

I couldn't disagree more; the HP looks just fine...thin black bezel, black/silver monitor stand.

The HP comes with three HDCP DVI inputs. The Dell has one.

 

[jim1976]

So does having the HP or the Dell model with more DVI inputs give me the ability to use my console on my monitor as well? I mean can I use a converter (dvi-vga) or an upscaler like those that Gefen makes, to actually be able to use my xbox360 in one of them?

 

[ForumMaster]

how about this instead?

 

[TechnoButt]

That samsung is identical to the Dell 3007wfp-hc.. suprise. Hell, even the stand looks similar.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: TechnoButt
That samsung is identical to the Dell 3007wfp-hc.. suprise. Hell, even the stand looks similar.

No it's not. It uses Samsungs "exaggerated" panels, a S-PVA panel in this case, therefore is slow and color shifty and has poor viewing angles compared to the Dell or HP.

Identical in size is about it. I pity the fool who orders this over Dell or HP.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Zebo
Get the new dell the HP looks like it hit every branch of the ugly tree on the way down.

I couldn't disagree more; the HP looks just fine...thin black bezel, black/silver monitor stand.

The HP comes with three HDCP DVI inputs. The Dell has one.

I don't really see the use of 3 DVi's neither have other useful connections like component, S-Video, VGA, HMDI... so strike on both, perhaps a little larger on the Dell since you must manually swap cables or KVM switch when viewing a secondary DVI source if you do so. You must have failed art class if you seriously think the HP's bland business like look and fat almost 20" wide plasticy rectangular base look better than the Dells lines and V shaped base. But looks are subjective...same complaint you probably raised with the teacher when she failed you after turning in your work.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Zebo
Get the new dell the HP looks like it hit every branch of the ugly tree on the way down.

I couldn't disagree more; the HP looks just fine...thin black bezel, black/silver monitor stand.

The HP comes with three HDCP DVI inputs. The Dell has one.

I don't really see the use of 3 DVi's neither have other useful connections like component, S-Video, VGA, HMDI... so strike on both, perhaps a little larger on the Dell since you must manually swap cables or KVM switch when viewing a secondary DVI source if you do so. You must have failed art class if you seriously think the HP's bland business like look and fat almost 20" wide plasticy rectangular base look better than the Dells lines and V shaped base. But looks are subjective...same complaint you probably raised with the teacher when she failed you after turning in your work.

Funny that you bring up failing homework.

HDCP DVI inputs can accept HDMI input with a cheap cable from Monoprice. Same with VGA; a cheap converter cable is all that is needed. And although you only need one input for your monitor, a lot of people can make use of multiple high-definition inputs. Buying extra cables is a lot less expensive than buying a DVI switch.

 

[Zebo]

Unfortunatly I know all about converters and scalers and it's extremly poor advice to suggest using them on such a high end display because of signal attenuation when signal conversion occurs. It's the whole reason i switched from a high end AG CRT to LCD when all the high end graphics cards only had DVI outs and using the converter, several of them, resulted in blurrier text and poorer color than a straight VGA connection on the old cards did. Digital to digital conversion is no more a guarantee of signal quality than digital to analog or analog to digital. . There are plenty of threads and websites (AVS forums) that talk about the issues with HDMI to DVI conversion.