Dell 1905fp no good?

[wpeng]

I recently bought a Dell Ultrasharp 19" because there was a deal that had it for $300. When I first started using it, I thought it was a little bit funny, but now I realize what is wrong with it.

When I scroll down a web page, everything starts flickering and is very blurry. When I go to a web page with black background and white text, the text turns green while I'm scrolling. I realize the LCD will have ghosting when it comes to gaming--but while surfing the 'Net???

How do I fix this? Is it a common problem?

 

[James3shin]

yikes....not sure whats going on with that monitor. Have you tried calling Dell for some support? From the commercials they are there "24 hours, 365.."

 

[jshawnd]

I have the same monitor, and the same problem. This is my first LCD, so I wasn't sure if it was something that's common. I don't think the monitor itself is defective, though.

 

[wpeng]

What revision do you have? I have A00. I think there might be a problem with them. I was wondering why these $500 monitors were going for $300. If I don't find a way to fix this within 2 days, I'm going to have to send it back.

 

[AwesomeJay]

can you give me a web page address that you have this problem on? I have about 150 1905fp's at work and i can try the web page on a few tomorrow and see if it happens on them.

 

[wpeng]

Well, it is gamebanshee.com
You should go to one of the game pages, where they have a bunch of white text instead of gold text.

I don't have these problems with the old Dell 15" LCDs at school nor with, obviously, my CRTs.

 

[AwesomeJay]

ok cool..i'll check it out tomorrow when i get to work and there are a bunch of people on here with 1905fp's that can prob check as well.

 

[Chesebert]

1905FP ghosts very bad. There is nothing you can do about it since its a PVA screen with their exponential response time growth curve. I returned it and got a 2005FPW. Much improved.

 

[wpeng]

Originally posted by: James3shin
yikes....not sure whats going on with that monitor. Have you tried calling Dell for some support? From the commercials they are there "24 hours, 365.."

Whoops, didn't see your message. I wanted to try with the friendly Anandtechers before I got crappy Indian tech support.

I'm expecting the worst, especially since there have been repeat problems. My issue is not with ghosting during gaming. My issue is with ghosting during surfing the web! And getting weird colors while scrolling! That is normal and expected of PVA?

 

[xtknight]

guys, this is all due to ghosting. the text flickers because the pixels can't change fast enough. it can also cause messed up colors, so yeah it's normal...

 

[jshawnd]

To the person that offered to test them--it's really bad with gamespot.com, specifically, pages within a review.

I'm returning mine. Actually, when I sent an email to customer support to return it, they offered me a $50 credit if I chose to keep it. This would bring my total cost with tax down to $286!

I'm still going to return it, though.

 

[wpeng]

Yeah, I was thrown off by the excellent reviews. Were all the reviewers bought out by Dell, or did they all get rev A01s? Anand should really clarify this. I thought I was getting one of the best LCDs in the business.

 

[tren001]

Yeah, I exchanged my 1905 for a 2005 too. The IPS panels (like the 2005) seem to be the best compromise between speed, color fidelity, and overall pic quality.

However, what happend to all that talk about the 1905 using some new faster panel? Something about AUO instead of Samsung or whatnot. I've not heard anything on that front for a few days.

I'm just wondering, because a fast gameworthy 1905 for ~$280 is about as hot a deal as you can get in the lcd realm (esp since they don't bleed left and right like the 2005s).

 

[H20Cool]

I wouldn't even think about buying an LCD above a 16ms response time, especially If you're used to CRTs. I've got a Dell 2001FP, and haven't noticed any blurring or steaking worth noting. I think the 1905FP is spec'd at 25ms response. If you do the math, and assume the response time specs are accurate then: 1000ms is in a second, so 1000/25 = 40. So the 1905FP can theoretically, only achieve a max frame rate of 40fps. That means that anytime you exceed that with your video card, whether in a game, moving windows, or quickly scrolling down through a web page, you'll get ghosting and steaking. Whereas, with a 16ms response time: 1000/16 = 62.5. 62.5fps is still not in CRT territory, but it's fast enough that you'll barely ever notice any ghosting or streaking, only in the most extreme circumstances.

 

[AwesomeJay]

i checked on a bunch of the 1905fp's here at work and they all blur even with the DVI cable. its really noticeable on www.gamespot.com while reading a review. Even the 17" dell lcd i use on my workstation blurs while scrolling text. Guess the 19" and 17" dells just arent very good

 

[wpeng]

I got news from the Dell forums that changing the contrast to 50 or above will get rid of the blur. I'm at school right now and will be there for several hours, so I can't check. AwesomeJay, if you are at work right now, is it possible for you to check?

Thanks, I really appreciate it.

 

[Chesebert]

contrast will not enhance the ghosting, as matter of affect, it conversely affect the response time.

 

[AwesomeJay]

tried at contrast 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 and 100 and it looked just as bad as at 50 contrast

 

[Fingolfin269]

I got mine a couple of weeks ago and haven't had this problem at all. Maybe I just don't notice it? The only difference I see is in FPS gaming but from what I understand any first time LCD user will notice a difference regardless of refresh rate.

 

[JuicyLucy]

There's nothing wrong with this monitor and for the price it's an excellent deal.

There are too many moronic n00bs here that don't know how to properly set up a computer that are whining about ghosting which it doesn't.

 

[WooDaddy]

Originally posted by: wpeng
I recently bought a Dell Ultrasharp 19" because there was a deal that had it for $300. When I first started using it, I thought it was a little bit funny, but now I realize what is wrong with it.

When I scroll down a web page, everything starts flickering and is very blurry. When I go to a web page with black background and white text, the text turns green while I'm scrolling. I realize the LCD will have ghosting when it comes to gaming--but while surfing the 'Net???

How do I fix this? Is it a common problem?

Just got mine today. I'll play some HL2 and let you know when I get home.

Man oh MAN I hope it works well. BTW, are you using the DVI inputs? Not sure if it makes a difference. This is my first LCD too.

 

[AwesomeJay]

Originally posted by: JuicyLucy
There's nothing wrong with this monitor and for the price it's an excellent deal.

There are too many moronic n00bs here that don't know how to properly set up a computer that are whining about ghosting which it doesn't.

no reason to talk like this.. we arent talking about games. to me the 1905fp looks fine in games, i tried far cry and call of duty here at work. both with vga and dvi and it looked fine, scrolling on web pages however is a different story

 

[wpeng]

Originally posted by: JuicyLucy
There's nothing wrong with this monitor and for the price it's an excellent deal.

There are too many moronic n00bs here that don't know how to properly set up a computer that are whining about ghosting which it doesn't.

Please tell me how to set it up then. I have it at 60 Hz, 1280x1024 res. I am using the DVI cable on a 9700 Pro.

I am also having problems with games, though that is to be expected. If you think there is no ghosting at all, then I think you may want to be more honest with yourself. That, or your eyes are no good. All LCDs ghost somewhat in games.

 

[AwesomeJay]

or he is just a fanboy who doesnt want to admit to himself that the monitor he bought ghosts so he denies it and calls anyone who says its ghosts a noob

 

[H20Cool]

There are too many moronic n00bs here that don't know how to properly set up a computer that are whining about ghosting which it doesn't.

Ah, on the contrary. Many LCD monitors ghost/bleed. If you took the time to read what I had posted above, you'd know that ghosting has nothing to do with how people set them up and everything to do with response time. Some people just notice the ghosting more than others.

Simply put, if you want a good LCD monitor with near zero ghosting, you have to get something with a faster response time, 16ms or lower and that means spending some extra coin. If I was in the market for a $300.00 monitor, I wouldn't even look at an LCD, I'd go for a CRT instead.