Delivery Guy Gets 10 Dollar Tip for 85 Pizzas

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Veliko

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Not comparable at all.

At Applebee's, you have to practically beg the waiters to come to your table and refill the drinks.
At a higher end restaurant(hell, even cheap places like IHOP and Olive Garden are considered higher end than Applebee's), no begging is needed to refill your drinks. The waiter comes by and ask you if you need anything before you finish your drink, or sometimes serves you two cups of your drink the 1st go round without you asking for it.

It's exactly the same.

At the higher end restaurant I will be paying a considerably higher price for the food in the first place.

The food will be better, the tables will be nicer, the crockery will be nicer, the cutlery will be better...

All of which is paid for in the price.

The tipping nonsense is just that - nonsense.
 

TeeJay1952

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Stop worrying about folks at the bottom and turn your rage to the ones at the top. (Bankers and money movers) these guys are costing you your real money not some peon trying to make a go of it based on your generosity. I have more respect for those trying to make though their own efforts than waiting for everyone else to solve their problems. I tip everyone who serves me (doughnut shops, Butchers or Deli workers, waiters and the rest of the working poor.) It is my welfare or social security. I am helping those who help themselves.
 

dmcowen674

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Stop worrying about folks at the bottom and turn your rage to the ones at the top. (Bankers and money movers) these guys are costing you your real money not some peon trying to make a go of it based on your generosity. I have more respect for those trying to make though their own efforts than waiting for everyone else to solve their problems. I tip everyone who serves me (doughnut shops, Butchers or Deli workers, waiters and the rest of the working poor.) It is my welfare or social security. I am helping those who help themselves.

"Stop worrying about folks at the bottom and turn your rage to the ones at the top."

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

QueBert

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Not comparable at all.

At Applebee's, you have to practically beg the waiters to come to your table and refill the drinks.
At a higher end restaurant(hell, even cheap places like IHOP and Olive Garden are considered higher end than Applebee's), no begging is needed to refill your drinks. The waiter comes by and ask you if you need anything before you finish your drink, or sometimes serves you two cups of your drink the 1st go round without you asking for it.

It's comparable in the sense you're tipping based off the bill amount, not the fanciness of the place you're eating.

If me and 3 co workers go to Sizzler and all get $6 specials the tip will be about $3, if we all order the $21 Rib Eyes the tip will be about $10. The service we get will be the same. At a nicer place you're not tipping better because of it being nicer, you're tipping more because it costs most. The fact it's nicer doesn't factor in.
 

blankslate

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No-one mentioned going to war. You don't seem to think it was possible to change a poisonous culture, so I gave you an example of just one such thing that was changed.
If you didn't want an answer about war, then maybe you should have cited a different "poisonous culture"...


For reference you asked.
And poisonous cultures are changed all the time. How do you think slavery was ended?

Well, slavery was a large factor in the southern states decision to secede... which then led to a war. Slavery was ended not to long after the war... see the relation? :rolleyes:

You could have mentioned segregation or not allowing women to vote as examples of things that needed to be changed without getting an answer about war, because no wars were fought as a result of those issues.
So why do the clothes shop people not deserve a tip?

That's dense man. Getting something delivered to you isn't the same as going into a store and picking it up.

Most of the time when people buy a t-shirt from a store they are in the store. Does the store send one of their employees to deliver the t-shirt? I've never heard of that for Target, Walmart or Kohl's

To compare that to a pizza properly if someone drives to a pizza place to pickup a pizza like they would drive to the store to buy a t-shirt there obviously isn't a delivery driver involved to worry about tipping.

Getting a pizza delivery is a common option. If I order pizza delivery I'll tip.
 
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88keys

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Outside north america nobody tips, & they get along fine. After living in Japan for 3 years where service is impecable with no need for a tip, im really sick of all these ppl that say u have to tip!
But how much do servers get paid there?. Minimum wage for servers in the U.S. is only $2.xx/hr

If people simply refused to tip, it's safe to say that there would be no servers.

And yeah, $10 is cheap as hell. assuming each pizza cost $8 that brings you to a total order cost of about $700. So the tip he recieved only equals out to about 1.3% of the order. IMO if you have $700 to spend on pizza, you obviously have enough money to spend on an adequate tip. You can assume that there were AT LEAST 100 or so people there and if one person forked out 1$ towards the tip, the delivery guy would have at least gotten $100 which would have been adequate.


No excuse.
 
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OverVolt

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Precisely what is it about delivering pizzas that deserves a tip in the first place?

Cause your car gets trashed for your job. Not many jobs in the $10 range require you to invest $5,000-$10,000 for something like a moderately reliable beater car. And its repairs.
 

halik

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Cause your car gets trashed for your job. Not many jobs in the $10 range require you to invest $5,000-$10,000 for something like a moderately reliable beater car. And its repairs.

Oh you mean like every other job that requires you to travel as part of the description? I don't seem to recall my realtor asking for a tip.

The real issue is if it wasn't for this stupid notion that you're required to tip (oxymoron in itself), employers would be forced to pay enough in wages to compensate for such things.
 

Veliko

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You could have mentioned segregation or not allowing women to vote as examples of things that needed to be changed without getting an answer about war, because no wars were fought as a result of those issues.

So you now realise that you can, in actual fact, change a poisonous part of culture?

That's dense man. Getting something delivered to you isn't the same as going into a store and picking it up.

Most of the time when people buy a t-shirt from a store they are in the store. Does the store send one of their employees to deliver the t-shirt? I've never heard of that for Target, Walmart or Kohl's

To compare that to a pizza properly if someone drives to a pizza place to pickup a pizza like they would drive to the store to buy a t-shirt there obviously isn't a delivery driver involved to worry about tipping.

Let's try this again:

I go to the shop and buy clothes because it is more convenient than making the clothes myself.

I order a pizza because it is more convenient than making it myself.

The reasons for buying clothes and for ordering a pizza are exactly the same: in each instance it is more convenient than doing it myself.

So why does the pizza delivery guy deserve a tip, whilst no-one else does?
 

Veliko

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Cause your car gets trashed for your job. Not many jobs in the $10 range require you to invest $5,000-$10,000 for something like a moderately reliable beater car. And its repairs.

No, that doesn't explain why it deserves a tip: that just shows that the employees are getting shafted by the employers.

There's plenty of other occupations that require frequent travel, but no-one tips them.
 

OverVolt

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Pizza delivery driver isn't really a job with perks. You put a ton of stop and go city miles on your car for 8 hours a day of constant driving.

Realtor's get pretty good commissions :awe:
 

OverVolt

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No, that doesn't explain why it deserves a tip: that just shows that the employees are getting shafted by the employers.

There's plenty of other occupations that require frequent travel, but no-one tips them.

Their own personal car for 8 hours? Hmm do tell.
 

Veliko

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Their own personal car for 8 hours? Hmm do tell.

A delivery person won't be delivering non-stop, and it won't be over long distances.

None of which has anything to do with explaining why delivery guys deserve a tip, yet no-one else does.
 

zerocool84

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But how much do servers get paid there?. Minimum wage for servers in the U.S. is only $2.xx/hr

If people simply refused to tip, it's safe to say that there would be no servers.

Here in Cali they get $8 plus tips so they make really good money.

Also all servers automatically earn the federal minimum wage NO MATTER WHAT. If their tips don't cover it the restaurant does.
 

blankslate

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So you now realise that you can, in actual fact, change a poisonous part of culture?

If you're going to equate tipping a delivery person and segregation or slavery... you've got problems.

Secondly your analogy of buying a t-shirt vs. making it and buying a pizza vs. making is rather stupid because the vast majority of people can make a pizza with an oven.

Not many people have a loom and sewing machine to make a t-shirt.

Keep on trying if you want though.
 

Veliko

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If you're going to equate tipping a delivery person and segregation or slavery... you've got problems.

Secondly your analogy of buying a t-shirt vs. making it and buying a pizza vs. making is rather stupid because the vast majority of people can make a pizza with an oven.

Not many people have a loom and sewing machine to make a t-shirt.

Keep on trying if you want though.

If anything, you've proved my point.

Making my own clothes is a far bigger hassle than cooking a pizza is, so the clothes makers are more deserving of a tip than the pizza delivery guy.
 

bamaaviator

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Oh you mean like every other job that requires you to travel as part of the description? I don't seem to recall my realtor asking for a tip.

The real issue is if it wasn't for this stupid notion that you're required to tip (oxymoron in itself), employers would be forced to pay enough in wages to compensate for such things.

Good idea to use a realtor as an example, because a commision based system is just like a tipping system. Your realtor is working for free based on the idea that she gets paid if she delivers a service to you.....same as pizza dude :) Except your realtor gets a set % of the sale, whereas you have a choice on what to tip.

Bravo to you sir

/clap
 

Veliko

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Good idea to use a realtor as an example, because a commision based system is just like a tipping system. Your realtor is working for free based on the idea that she gets paid if she delivers a service to you.....same as pizza dude :) Except your realtor gets a set % of the sale, whereas you have a choice on what to tip.

Bravo to you sir

/clap

A contracted commission rate is nothing like a discretionary tipping system.
 

halik

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Good idea to use a realtor as an example, because a commision based system is just like a tipping system. Your realtor is working for free based on the idea that she gets paid if she delivers a service to you.....same as pizza dude :) Except your realtor gets a set % of the sale, whereas you have a choice on what to tip.

Bravo to you sir

/clap

Commission doesn't mean what you think it means.

I'm contractually bound to compensate my realtor, which is the exact opposite of discretionary gratuity. You literally couldn't be more wrong in what you wrote.

If you enter pizza delivery occupation with the premise that people are obligated to pay you gratuity as if it were contractual commission, you're in for a rude awakening.
 
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dmcowen674

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Based on the really shitty people in here (shouldn't be surprised).

Pizza outlets should go to the same model restaurants do with tables over 6 people and automatically build the tip in.
 

tcsenter

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I was sorta acquainted with a pizza delivery driver in the Detroit area who used to deliver to the ghetto. He was robbed like 11 times in 10 years. He actually started carrying a gun and shot a kid who attacked him with a baseball bat, along with three of buddies, in a robbery attempt. Wayne County prosecutor made his life a living hell for six months before deciding to drop the charges (also leaving him with thousands in legal bills), because he didn't have a permit to carry the gun (the gun was lawfully owned). Even better, the Wayne Co. prosecutor actually put the felon robber on the Victim Assistance program to help him through his "trauma" as a victim of violence. All the real victim in this case got was "you should consider yourself lucky that we aren't going forward with attempted murder charges against you."
 

JM Aggie08

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I tip the lads at Jimmy John's. Why? Because they ride a fucking bike to deliver my food and are quick as hell.

$1-2 for a pizza seems fair to me...stop getting your panties in a wad, people. I think some of you are more worked up than the delivery guys that are getting stiffed :D
 
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