Delay's Judge Donates to moveon and other leftwinged radicals

[Pabster]

Well, it makes sense. Earle has donated to lots of Democratic causes as well. Let's just hope the judge isn't a blind partisan like Earle.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
An essential component of our judicial system is that the judges make their judgements based on the LAW, not their person political views. Don't kid yourself, every single judge in the country is going to have personal views that someone disagrees with, so the only fair way to conduct business is to have them seperate their judgement from those views. Are you suggesting donating to a PAC or a political candidate indicates that the judge will not rule fairly on the law? I'm pretty sure we'd have to fire almost the entire judiciary if that was the case, which I certainly don't believe it to be. And I personally don't think a judge that would need to have no political views in order to rule fairly would be worth a whole lot.

Shhh. Don't confuse him with facts. We all know all Judges have a penchant for offering themselves up on a silver platter for ethics violations.

 

[Rainsford]

Also, am I the only one who doesn't see the "leftwing radicals" mentioned in the title? Moveon is arguably pretty far to the left, but donating to a Democratic presidential candidate who won 48% of the popular vote hardly seems radical.

 

[imported_tss4]

I really don't see the big deal. Tons of judges, identify with either the republican or democratic party (and make contributions) but then they pass down legal judgements based on law. For god sakes, the current nominee for supreme court has made contributions to political compaigns. Does that make her incapable of being impartial? This is a ridiculous complaint. Honestly, if you can find evidence that this judge has made legislative decisions based on thier political agenda then by all means, remove the judge. But political contributions are in no way evidence that a judge can't do his job. Most people aren't so blindly partisan and most people (inlcuding judges) have made political contributions. It does me no good to get bent out of shape if this guy had donated to the republicans and you should relize that he can donate to the democrats without empairing his ability to judge a case.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Thump553
Moveon.org are radicals? What, pray tell, is your defination of radicals? Who are the other leftist radicals the judge donated to that the OP referred to his his subtitle, or is that an imprecise mistatement?

Are you honestly disputing MoveOn.Org's status as an extreme (and I mean extreme) left-wing radical group?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

Holy cow! How can anyone expect a fair trial when it turns out the judges are people just like you and me?

There is a distinction between politically active and blindly partisan...if any judge demonstrates behavior that suggests the latter, they are unsuitable for the bench they sit on.

That this judge donated to John Kerry's campaign is not really of much concern...that he has gone one step further in donating to moveon.org does raise an eyebrow, considering that moveon.org is a notable partisan organization.

it might be more worthy of concern if he had donated to the communist party or answer

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Well, it makes sense. Earle has donated to lots of Democratic causes as well. Let's just hope the judge isn't a blind partisan like Earle.

Yuo were discredited before you posted, in this thread and in others.

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Thump553
Moveon.org are radicals? What, pray tell, is your defination of radicals? Who are the other leftist radicals the judge donated to that the OP referred to his his subtitle, or is that an imprecise mistatement?

Are you honestly disputing MoveOn.Org's status as an extreme (and I mean extreme) left-wing radical group?

I wouldn't call them moderate, but many people that aren't extreme left, donated to moveon, cause it was seen as an effective means toward a democratic win. Few people agree completely with any organization or political entity. The point is, that there is no evidence that he has ever let political partisanship influence his decision. He has a track record, if there is several odd rulings that really show a pattern of political partisanship then he should be removed. But donating to a political group is not cause for removing him. Many intelligent hard working and honest people have made political donations.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Thump553
Moveon.org are radicals? What, pray tell, is your defination of radicals? Who are the other leftist radicals the judge donated to that the OP referred to his his subtitle, or is that an imprecise mistatement?

Are you honestly disputing MoveOn.Org's status as an extreme (and I mean extreme) left-wing radical group?

I will.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Yuo were discredited before you posted, in this thread and in others.

Living up to your nickname and troll status, I see.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Am I the only one that realizes that all lower court judges have to be elected and run for their seats on the bench with a party affiliation attached at voting time?

Zendari, once again, you troll with no regards for anything but partisan spewing of talking points.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Well, it makes sense. Earle has donated to lots of Democratic causes as well. Let's just hope the judge isn't a blind partisan like Earle.

Ronnie Earle is a "blind partisan" ??? :shocked: Before you try to discredit this source, there are links following each item in these quotes:

The Truth About Ronnie Earle

You?ll hear plenty from DeLay et al. about Ronnie Earle. Here are the facts:

EARLE HAS PROSECUTED FOUR TIMES AS MANY DEMOCRATS AS REPUBLICANS: ?Over Earle?s 27-year tenure, his Public Integrity Unit has prosecuted 15 elected officials, including 12 Democrats.? [Los Angeles Times, 5/15/05]

EARLE PROSECUTED DEMOCRATS AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF STATE GOVERNMENT: ?Some of the Democrats prosecuted by Earle and his Public Integrity Unit are former Texas House Speaker Gib Lewis, former Texas Attorney General Jim Mattox, former State Treasurer Warren Harding and former Texas Supreme Court Justice Don Yarbrough.? [AP, 12/12/04]

EARLE AIDES WENT ON TO RUN FOR OFFICE AS REPUBLICANS: ?Some of his top assistants have been with him for decades. A few have gone on to run for elected office as Republicans.? 5/15/05]

FRIEND OF OFFICIAL TARGETED BY EARLE CALLED HIM A ?BOY SCOUT?: ?Democrats, for their part, are still upset over the prosecution of Attorney General Jim Mattox for bribery in 1985. ? He was acquitted and years later, Jim Marston, a civil lawyer in Austin and friend of Mr. Mattox, asked Earle why he went ahead with the questionable case. ?I said, ?Ronnie, how can it be an abuse of power to threaten a lawyer? We threaten each other all the time.? He told me that elected officials are held to a higher standard. They are supposed to be [above suspicion] like Caesar?s wife.? It was then that Mr. Marston realized how deep Earle?s principles run. ?Ronnie Earle is a Boy Scout who is offended by wrongdoings, chief among them, public officials? abuse of power.? [Christian Science Monitor, 12/03/04]

EARLE HAS REPUTATION AS PRINCIPLED, ?OVERLY CAUTIOUS?: ?Deliberate in the capital cases he sends to juries, Earle is well known for examining an issue from all angles before acting. ?If I have any complaint about Ronnie, it?s that he is overly cautious about who he prosecutes,? says Marston. ?The fact that it has taken two years to investigate Tom DeLay is a sign not of partisanship, but of being completely careful.?? [Christian Science Monitor, 12/03/04

EARLE HAS REPUTATION FOR ?STRONG MORAL STREAK?: ?[T]o those who know him, Earle has always exhibited a strong moral streak - from his formative years growing up in a small town outside Fort Worth, to his time on the Austin night court, to his political service in the state legislature. But they contend his morality is tempered by his compassion. ?Ronnie is very principled and will do the right thing even if it isn?t the smartest political thing to do,? says Ellen Halbert, a victim?s rights advocate.? [Christian Science Monitor, 12/03/04]

EARLE HAS REPUTATION FOR RESPECTING THE RULES: ??One of the things I admired most about Ronnie was his indefatigable ability to go and meet with groups all over town all the time?right-wing groups, left-wing groups, the Rotary,? says Bill Reid, an attorney who retired from Earle?s office in 1997. ?He?s not a bloodthirsty prosecutor who wanted to get notches on his gun. There are some who have a reputation for walking close to the line in terms of evidence and rights, but there was never a push or inclination from him that we ought to bend the rules. Working for him, I was doing what I wanted to do, and I could go home and sleep at night.?? 5/15/05]

HOUSTON CHRONICLE: ALLEGATIONS OF PARTISANSHIP NOT SUPPORTED BY FACTS: Chronicle editorial: ?The record does not support allegations that Earle is prone to partisan witch hunts.? 3/17/03

Whatever you're smoking, it's gotta be good sh8 because you're really detached from reality. You could at least share with every one. :laugh:

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Harvey
Ronnie Earle is a "blind partisan" ??? :shocked: Before you try to discredit this source, there are links following each item in these quotes:

The Truth About Ronnie Earle

You?ll hear plenty from DeLay et al. about Ronnie Earle. Here are the facts:

[biased media spin removed for brevity]

Like I'm going to take the word of the LA Times or the Christian Science Monitor (two extremely liberal publications) for Earle's supposed fairness? ROFLMAO. How about you answer to his "case" against KBH which went nowhere and proved just how partisan he really is?

Whatever you're smoking, it's gotta be good sh8 because you're really detached from reality. You could at least share with every one. :laugh:

You're pretty good with insults and attacks but lacking severely on substance, fact, and evidence.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: Todd33
They found a Democrat is Texas?

Yes, and he's perverting the American Way by throwing around huge sums of money to further his political agenda.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Pabster
You're pretty good with insults and attacks but lacking severely on substance, fact, and evidence.

You beg my pardon? I don't see ANY links or other corroboration of anything you've said in this thread. Should I check the rest of your blather in other threads? Do you EVERY post any documentation of ANYTHING you post? :shocked:

Child, if that's the best you've got you're shooting blanks. 😛

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Pabster
...
You're pretty good with insults and attacks but lacking severely on substance, fact, and evidence.

Pot vs Kettle 2: Bloodsport

Seriously, how can you post that and not die from irony overload?

 

[Jhhnn]

The OP says it all- "left winged radicals"... which expresses a pov so far to the right as to earnestly believe that the John Birch and Federalist societies might have impure commie leanings...

Maybe we can all hear about how John McCain was brainwashed by the North Vietnamese and is really the Manchurian candidate...

There is no radical left in modern American politics. Nobody is calling for revolution and the confiscation of private property, collectivization and the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat. Kucinich is as far left as it gets, and he'd be moderately Right in France or a host of other countries...

Sometimes I wish for a resurgence of the old left- not because I agree with them, at all, but because they served as a counterbalance to the rightwing thinktank rhetoric that now passes all to easily as something that makes sense... They exploit the silence on the far left to label anybody not lockstepping with their program as "leftist". It's offensive, and transparently foolish for anybody to actually believe it...

 

[BBond]

Delay's Judge Donates to moveon and other leftwinged radicals

First, this is (or until recently was) a free country. Secondly, we're dealing with your known right wing radical view of what constitutes a left wing radical.

:Yawn;

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
There is no radical left in modern American politics. Nobody is calling for revolution and the confiscation of private property, collectivization and the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat. Kucinich is as far left as it gets, and he'd be moderately Right in France or a host of other countries...

If this madness is your idea of "radical left", how exactly does the Bush admin fit your ideal for "radical right"?

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
There is no radical left in modern American politics. Nobody is calling for revolution and the confiscation of private property, collectivization and the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat. Kucinich is as far left as it gets, and he'd be moderately Right in France or a host of other countries...

If this madness is your idea of "radical left", how exactly does the Bush admin fit your ideal for "radical right"?

The only madness going on in America is a product of the radical right.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: BBond
The only madness going on in America is a product of the radical right.

Man I'd like to see that pair of blinders you've been wearing!

 

[wirelessenabled]

All right! Maybe DeLay will finally be put where he so deserves to be, in the Pen!

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Am I the only one that realizes that all lower court judges have to be elected and run for their seats on the bench with a party affiliation attached at voting time?

Yes you are, because that is a complete fabrication. Not all "lower court" judges in all states are elected in partisan elections.

 

[Pabster]

No, in fact, most of them aren't elected. Hence the current horrid state of our judiciary, what with all the activist judges out there who have no one to answer to.

 

[DanceMan]

Originally posted by: Pabster
No, in fact, most of them aren't elected. Hence the current horrid state of our judiciary, what with all the activist judges out there who have no one to answer to.

Ho hum, so many of you folks forget your American Government 101 class...

They do answer to sombody -- your state legislature. And the Legislature answers to you -- when you vote or contact them for greviance or support. So, if you don't like 'activist' judges, then tell your legislature about it!