DeLay Judge given the boot

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3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Senior Judge Duncan was elected to judgeship as a Democrat. He has contributed to both parties. I guess that means he was bought by Delay. :roll:

BTW, Perkins recused himself during the Hutchison case brought Earle, why did it take a judge to remove him this time?

Because in that case there was an apparent conflict of interest, and in this case there is no such thing.
 

Jhhnn

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I think Duncan will do just fine. We wouldn't want any bits of partisan slime clinging to the verdict...

Of course, if DeLay goes down, his fanbois can always claim that Duncan is an evil democrat...
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: zendari
I wonder why the left is so against giving Delay a fair and impartial trial. There are other judges in texas.

why is Delay himself so against getting a fair and impartial trail?

He isn't. That's what he's trying to get.

No, he's trying to get a rubber stamp from one of his cronies.

He has cronies in Austin/Travis County? Huh? I didnt realise there is a republican judge there. Oh wait there isnt. Thank you come again.
 

arsbanned

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: zendari
I wonder why the left is so against giving Delay a fair and impartial trial. There are other judges in texas.

why is Delay himself so against getting a fair and impartial trail?

He isn't. That's what he's trying to get.

No, he's trying to get a rubber stamp from one of his cronies.

He has cronies in Austin/Travis County? Huh? I didnt realise there is a republican judge there. Oh wait there isnt. Thank you come again.

You know for a fact that a Democrat will be the new presiding judge? kthxbymoron.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: zendari
I wonder why the left is so against giving Delay a fair and impartial trial. There are other judges in texas.

why is Delay himself so against getting a fair and impartial trail?

He isn't. That's what he's trying to get.

No, he's trying to get a rubber stamp from one of his cronies.

He has cronies in Austin/Travis County? Huh? I didnt realise there is a republican judge there. Oh wait there isnt. Thank you come again.

You know for a fact that a Democrat will be the new presiding judge? kthxbymoron.


Lets see, who are the other district judges in Travis County. Lets 4 democrats to 1 republican. My bet is Jon Wisser gets handed the case. Why? one, he hasnt already heard any part of the case. Two, he hasnt made any political donations to either party.

Wilford Flowers - Democrat
Mike Lynch - Democrat
Brenda Kennedy - Democrat
Jon Wisser - Democrat
Julie Kocurek - Republican


 

PELarson

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: zendari
I wonder why the left is so against giving Delay a fair and impartial trial. There are other judges in texas.

what was wrong with the judge they had? I don't hear many people bitching in traffic court that their judge is a republican or democrat. So when do we get to start picking and choosing our judges based on their financial contributions and political affiliations? it's only fair that we get to pick our judges too if Mr. Delay can.

Clearly there was something wrong with him if another impartial judge found him unfit for the case.

No, he's trying to get a rubber stamp from one of his cronies.
Duncan is one of his cronies?


To misquote Robert Duvall - "I love the smell of Republican hypocrisy in the morning!"
 

BBond

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If I'm ever charged with a crime in Texas (HIGHLY unlikely since I wouldn't visit that hell-hole unless kidnapped) it's good to know there is now precedent established to force the court to appoint a judge who agrees with my political views. Ridiculous. But what else can be expected? This is exas we're talking about, after all.

 

shira

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Nice to know that you are only allowed to be judged by someone that supports you and what you stand for.

Or rather, it's nice to know that you won't have to be judged by someone that actively supports those who make it their job to oppose you and what you stand for.


Does this mean that in the future we can expect Justice Antonin Scalia to recuse himself whenever a case involving Dick Cheney - with whom Scalia goes on hunting trips - comes before the supreme court? Where were DeLay's cries of potential bias in Cheney v. United States District Court, in which the ACLU and Judicial Watch sued to force Cheney's 2001 Energy Commission to release papers revealing who played a role in the Commission's recommendations?

As the Associated Press reported when that case actually went before the Supremes:
Raising the gravest concerns about unnecessary snooping into the executive branch was Justice Antonin Scalia, who stayed in the case despite conflict-of-interest questions relating to his friendship with Cheney.

In fact, the USSC voted 7-2 to return the case to District court. Inevitably, the case will come back before the Supremes. Should Scalia be there to hear it? I'm sure we'll be able to count on DeLay to make a principled stand in support of judicial impartiality.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
BTW, Perkins recused himself during the Hutchison case brought Earle, why did it take a judge to remove him this time?

That's easy. The judge was looking to be in the middle of it all. Looking for attention and headlines. Hutchinson was nothing compared to DeLay.

Try again, Perkins had given money to Hutchinson's opponent. DeLame's attorney claims a circuitous link between Perkins and Democrats attacking DeLay is comparable. From the exaggeration of political contributions (double counting) to the pure fiction of the DeLay T-shirt, it appears DeLay and his legal team was looking for attention and headlines . . . not to mention delaying the trial.
 

dahunan

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This sounds just like what Saddam has been doing..

Good to know that Mr. DeLay respects the US Judicial system...
 

irwincur

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I really do not see the problem here. DeLay did have a valid argument.

Odd how the party of 'justice' is so willing to trash their so called ideals just to bag a single Republican. Hell, this whole trial stinks from top to bottom.


More daily evidence that the left is losing their ability to win via the political process. Now they must utilize their friends in the courts - of which there are many - lawyers are the largest donor block to the DNC.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: irwincur
I really do not see the problem here. DeLay did have a valid argument.

Odd how the party of 'justice' is so willing to trash their so called ideals just to bag a single Republican. Hell, this whole trial stinks from top to bottom.


More daily evidence that the left is losing their ability to win via the political process. Now they must utilize their friends in the courts - of which there are many - lawyers are the largest donor block to the DNC.

Odd that the right would attack our entire legal system just to protect one of their own who has been rightly charged by a grand jury with a crime.

If DeLay is truly innocent then he has nothing to worry about, right? Isn't that the usual right wing reaction when someone other than one of their own is charged with a crime. Are we supposed to negate the entire U.S. legal system because it's DeLay who is charge with a crime? Why not let the legal system take its course?

If you're so sure of DeLay's innocence why not let him prove it in court?

 

sandorski

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From the same people who brought you "Legislation from the Bench" now bring you "Justice from the Jail Cell". Next up, Foreign Policy will come from Dumpster 2 behind Antonio's on 174th st. :p :D

Seriously though, DeLay has merely lived up to his name. It seems inevitable he is going down hard, the only recourse he has is when it happens.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: BBond
Odd that the right would attack our entire legal system just to protect one of their own who has been rightly charged by a grand jury with a crime.

If DeLay is truly innocent then he has nothing to worry about, right? Isn't that the usual right wing reaction when someone other than one of their own is charged with a crime. Are we supposed to negate the entire U.S. legal system because it's DeLay who is charge with a crime? Why not let the legal system take its course?

If you're so sure of DeLay's innocence why not let him prove it in court?
What about all the Republican defendants that came before the judge in question's court. Should they all be thrown out? How come the Republicans weren't jumping and screaming then?
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: BBond

Odd that the right would attack our entire legal system just to protect one of their own who has been rightly charged by a grand jury with a crime.

If DeLay is truly innocent then he has nothing to worry about, right? Isn't that the usual right wing reaction when someone other than one of their own is charged with a crime. Are we supposed to negate the entire U.S. legal system because it's DeLay who is charge with a crime? Why not let the legal system take its course?

If you're so sure of DeLay's innocence why not let him prove it in court?
The legal system is taking its course.

I love how Delay needs to "prove" his innocence. So much for innocent until proven guilty.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: zendari
The legal system is taking its course.

I love how Delay needs to "prove" his innocence. So much for innocent until proven guilty.
Where in this thread has anyone said or implied that Delay is guilty?
 

BBond

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Hey zendari, you people are claiming DeLay will be found innocent even before the scuzzball's trial begins. I'm saying he'll have to prove his innocence at trial. You want to circumvent the legal system. I want let it take its course. DeLay's supporters are claiming his innocence before the trial even begins. Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean innocent. Understand?
 

ZeGermans

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Ok, I'm a big lefty here... but for all of you complaining about this... remember when you were up in arms over Scalia refusing to recuse himself during that haliburton supreme court thing?
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: zendari
The legal system is taking its course.

I love how Delay needs to "prove" his innocence. So much for innocent until proven guilty.
Where in this thread has anyone said or implied that Delay is guilty?

By saying one needs to prove his innocence presumes that he is guilty.

If Perkins is OK why did a fair and impartial judge find him unfit for the case?
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: BBond

Odd that the right would attack our entire legal system just to protect one of their own who has been rightly charged by a grand jury with a crime.

If DeLay is truly innocent then he has nothing to worry about, right? Isn't that the usual right wing reaction when someone other than one of their own is charged with a crime. Are we supposed to negate the entire U.S. legal system because it's DeLay who is charge with a crime? Why not let the legal system take its course?

If you're so sure of DeLay's innocence why not let him prove it in court?
The legal system is taking its course.

I love how Delay needs to "prove" his innocence. So much for innocent until proven guilty.

I love how deLay PREJUDICED his Judge...

I love how deLay has been indicted so.. YES... HIS requirement is to PROVE HIS INNOCENCE.. that is how the law works... are you that dense?

The State needs to prove he is guilty
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Ok, I'm a big lefty here... but for all of you complaining about this... remember when you were up in arms over Scalia refusing to recuse himself during that haliburton supreme court thing?

I remember it .. but it seems to be a little different.. Scalia was hunting buddies with CheneyBurton
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: BBond

Odd that the right would attack our entire legal system just to protect one of their own who has been rightly charged by a grand jury with a crime.

If DeLay is truly innocent then he has nothing to worry about, right? Isn't that the usual right wing reaction when someone other than one of their own is charged with a crime. Are we supposed to negate the entire U.S. legal system because it's DeLay who is charge with a crime? Why not let the legal system take its course?

If you're so sure of DeLay's innocence why not let him prove it in court?
The legal system is taking its course.

I love how Delay needs to "prove" his innocence. So much for innocent until proven guilty.

I love how deLay PREJUDICED his Judge...

I love how deLay has been indicted so.. YES... HIS requirement is to PROVE HIS INNOCENCE.. that is how the law works... are you that dense?

The State needs to prove he is guilty

Actually, I'm pretty sure DeLay needs only to prove that there is reasonable doubt that he is guilty.