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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Insane3D
charrison-
I understand what you are trying to say, and I admit, you are very knowledgeable when it comes to issues of fiscal budgets and such...much more so than I. However, it seems a bit strange to me that you could find fault with the democrativ minority in congress beause they haven't tried to stop the spending the republican majority and administration is currently doing. To me, it seems the problem is entirely a result of the republican majority. They have control of everything, but it's the dems fault because they aren't trying to stop them?
I am speaking strictly about the current administration and congress, not the past. I don't think the dems have always been blameless, but it seems to me that with the republicans controlling everything, the blame lays squarely at their feet right now. It is sort of like saying a robbery is the fault of the police since they didn't stop it, rather than the criminal that commited it.
That's just how I see it anyway..and I don't consider myself a member of either party.
They only reason I make mention of the senate filibuster and the budget is that the party that is complaing the loudest about the current deficits did nothing to stop them. It seems quite hypocritcal to complain about the defecits, when in fact they did nothing to stop them when they do had the power to do so. I yes I will agree that the republicans get a larger share of the blame this cycle because they do largely control legislative branch, but they do not have total control. Total control would require keeping the current majority in congress and adding about 10 seats in the senate.
Fair enough. I do think you have a valid point about the dems being able to use the filabuster, but it seems to me there also might be politcal ramifications if they did so. I doubt it's a simple matter. For instance, if they used that power to try to cut spending at our new "Homeland Security" juggernaut, they would instantly be labeled as putting the American people in danger or something. I think it would be better if the heavy heavy partisan politcs could truely be put aside and both sides could work together, but I doubt that will happen in my lifetime..
Just a note - they are using the "threat" of a fillibuster for the judicial nominees. Why would they use such means on the seemingly "less important" things but not use it for the very thing they are screaming the loudest about? I'll tell you why Votes - they know we can't have a federal work stoppage like we did a few years back and the voters won't stand for that. IMO of course
CkG
So instead of blaming the GOP House, Senate, and President for passing and signing the laws that have balooned this Deficit, you are blaming the Democrats for not filibustering it. This is really the intellectual "triumph" of Bush apologists. Of course if they have filibustered any of these bills, you would be blaming the Democrats for blocking Bush's wonderful ideas. Which is why they haven't filibustered them, so that teh GOP has noone left to blame for their failed economic policies. Again, the economic policies that resulted in this deficit were passed by GOP house and senate, and signed into law by Dubya. It's their work, and their deficit.
No - I'm not blaming them for anything - I'm just saying that they aren't blameless -There is a difference. And like charrison said - they are whining about it now, but weren't then...why?.
Have any ideas on how to fix the budget gap? Bush's tax cut will get you ~$100Billion, so you only have 400 to go
CkG