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Deciding whether to learn Solaris or continue with FreeBSD

LuckyTaxi

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I started 10 yrs ago with FreeBSD. I love the OS but most jobs out there requires Linux experience. Well, I picked that up 3 yrs ago and now I'm managing a bunch of RH 4 servers. So now that I'm getting bored, I figure I should attempt to learn an additional OS (you never know, some companies run more than one OS). Most jobs I see requires experience with Solaris and/or RH. I hardly see FreeBSD but I can't stay away from it.

Anyone here using Solaris? Is it dying?
 
Hard to say with the whole Oracle thing, but regardless of future development there will be legacy Solaris installations for years to come so it's not a bad thing to know.
 
Its still used (GE is a big user, for instance), but given the acquisition by Oracle, you may want to wait 3-6 months to start to get a better picture of where the OS Development is going and if Oracle will EOL it. That being said, its not very hard to learn/use/admin if you're familiar with other Unix systems.
 
Solaris will be around for a long time. Oracle has already said they love it and will be continuing it. It's not a bad system (just CLUNKY). I keep thinking I'd love to have a Solaris box, but I'm poor/lazy. 😛
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Solaris will be around for a long time. Oracle has already said they love it and will be continuing it. It's not a bad system (just CLUNKY). I keep thinking I'd love to have a Solaris box, but I'm poor/lazy. 😛

We are an oracle consultant shop, hence my desire to learn Solaris in case we need to support someone who runs it in their environment.

I too am poor, which is why I'm installing it on x86 system, but I know the solaris fan boys will hate me for doing it. Oh well ...
 
Originally posted by: LuckyTaxi
We are an oracle consultant shop, hence my desire to learn Solaris in case we need to support someone who runs it in their environment.

I too am poor, which is why I'm installing it on x86 system, but I know the solaris fan boys will hate me for doing it. Oh well ...

My brother put my computer situation in perspective when his jaw hit the floor after I told him I didn't have any motherboards with SATA. 😛

No Solaris x86 for me right now.
 
I've still got and use some IRIX hardware so I'm probably not the right person to ask about whether to learn an OS on the decline
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: LuckyTaxi
We are an oracle consultant shop, hence my desire to learn Solaris in case we need to support someone who runs it in their environment.

I too am poor, which is why I'm installing it on x86 system, but I know the solaris fan boys will hate me for doing it. Oh well ...

My brother put my computer situation in perspective when his jaw hit the floor after I told him I didn't have any motherboards with SATA. 😛

holy crap. ive still got an athlon xp box from like...7 years ago or something and it had sata. :Q
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: LuckyTaxi
We are an oracle consultant shop, hence my desire to learn Solaris in case we need to support someone who runs it in their environment.

I too am poor, which is why I'm installing it on x86 system, but I know the solaris fan boys will hate me for doing it. Oh well ...

My brother put my computer situation in perspective when his jaw hit the floor after I told him I didn't have any motherboards with SATA. 😛

No Solaris x86 for me right now.

lazy or cheap? or both? i picked up a mini-atx motherboard, 4 gb ram, and an athlon64 for about $150. hell, i'll send you my intel mini-itx board for a nominal fee.
 
Originally posted by: jhu
lazy or cheap? or both? i picked up a mini-atx motherboard, 4 gb ram, and an athlon64 for about $150. hell, i'll send you my intel mini-itx board for a nominal fee.

Right now a little of both. And I like good stuff, so I end up looking at parts for months trying to find something perfect, getting frustrated, and not looking again for a while. 😛

I think I found some parts now. A little more expensive than I wanted, but not bad. Not right for Solaris though.
 
I think Solaris will be around for a while and I think Oracle will invest in it as well. They said 40% of the Oracle DB installed base is on Solaris so they get to double dip that maintenance stream, which I'm sure they'll love...

Solaris x86 has made a lot of strides lately with 2008.11 and 2009.06 - definately worth a look and more and more linux user land stuff showing up all the time. It runs great on my Thinkpad X61 for example. I may very well cut that machine over to 2009.06...
 
Originally posted by: LuckyTaxi
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Solaris will be around for a long time. Oracle has already said they love it and will be continuing it. It's not a bad system (just CLUNKY). I keep thinking I'd love to have a Solaris box, but I'm poor/lazy. 😛

We are an oracle consultant shop, hence my desire to learn Solaris in case we need to support someone who runs it in their environment.

I too am poor, which is why I'm installing it on x86 system, but I know the solaris fan boys will hate me for doing it. Oh well ...

You guys do know that you can get a Sun system pretty cheap right? Check out ebay for Ultra60's... Personally I picked up one that was listed "for parts" because they could not get it to turn on for $20 + shipping. The case switch was broken. But anyone who knows anything about Sun gear would have tried the alternate power switch located on the keyboard (which was the second thing I tried) and the system booted right up. I loaded up solaris 10 and was good to go.

While I lucked out, there are other cheap deals there. That said, DON'T get a Sunblade 100 or 150. They are horrible POS boxes that were really just intended for giving people terminal at their desk. This is why you will see them real cheap on ebay compared to a dual processor Ultra60, even though the Ultra60 is at least 4 years older than the Sunblade.

Once you pop in 2GB of RAM in an Ultra60 it is a very usable machine, even now. RAM can be found pretty cheap on ebay, you just have to realize that you can use up to 128MB dimms, and that RAM from Ultra1, Ultra2, Ultra30, Ultra60, Ultra80, E250, 280R, and E450 all work (as long as it is under 128MB in size, only the Ultra80 and 280R could use the 256 and 512MB dismms in that class).

And if you are an Oracle shop, you would know that the primary OS combination with Oracle is actually Solaris, so it is not something that is going to go away now that Oracle purchased Sun. The current belief is that Oracle is simply going to optimize the OS even more to better run Oracle. That and develop an Oracle "appliance", (i.e. a black box that you can purchase fully pre-configured and simply drop in place on your network that is to be used as your Oracle server, much like Sun's current Unified Storage Systems...and in fact will probably be based on that existing hardware since they support a clustered, high available server platform with a decent storage backend, oracle just needs to be installed on the system which is already running Solaris 10, and configured to use the disks available already, and with these systems use dual T2 processors with 128 simultaneous threads, you have the makings of a very decent drop in place database server which can easily handle thousands of transactions).
 
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