Deciding between IBM 180GXP and Maxtor Plus 9

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giocopiano

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Both these drives in 80-120Gb 2mb cache versions are dirt cheap, maybe because of the new warranties.
The Plus 9 is supposed to be even faster than the 180GXP and I can save about $10 by going that way.
But people say the Plus 9 is noisy, and I only found any reviews of it in Xbit labs where it broke down on them.
IBM used to be a very safe bet. Have then got back to their good old ways with the 180GXP?
The new drive doesn't have to be silent in seeks. Just quieter than drives of 2 years ago.
 
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Originally posted by: dexvx
Originally posted by: Budman
Get the Maxtor & stay away from IBM,run run away from IBM !!! quick run!!!
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What a mature comment.
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Like yours was any different
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I have three 180GXP drives - and they are outstanding. They definitely outperformed my 2 Maxtors. IBM did have some bad cases with the 60GXP series, but the 180GXP seem to really be good. These were all 80 GB size.

I have had nothing but good luck with IBM drives over the past 10 years. Go figure!
 
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AtomicDude512

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Originally posted by: dexvx
Originally posted by: Budman
Get the Maxtor & stay away from IBM,run run away from IBM !!! quick run!!!
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What a mature comment.
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I agree, I had problems with IBM but I love my new Diamondmax 8, very helpful in my quest for silence... :p
 
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giocopiano

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It seems like there is a news blackout on the Maxtor Plus 9s.
All someone has to tell me is that it doesn't always break down and it doesn't sound that bad...
 
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Maxtor all the way. IBM's 75GXP/60GXP series sucked balls... 1 total failure, 1 I just RMAed after bad sector development and fitness test reports it as defective. 2 for 2 defective, each within half a year (thou i stopped using one and never got around to RMAing til now) and my old 13gig maxtor is still running strong w/ no bad sectors for the last 4 years. IBM sells their HD division off to hitachi, so I will be staying away from IBM from now on. Western Digital or Maxtor for me.
 
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People have bad notions about IBM's current HDDs because of the 75GXP fiasco. I don't think it's too fair, because they have proven their drives reliable since then. Should we still be holding a grudge against Intel for releasing an unstable Pentium III 1.13GHz? I think not.

The performance of IBM's HDDs has always been above all of their competitor in terms of real-world performance. In fact, my 1200JB is hardly faster than my 75GXP. The 75GXP can really hold it's own for an HDD that is several years old. The 180GXP improves upon performance even further. The Maxtor drive should also perform very well. You probably aren't going to notice a difference no matter which drive you chose. It just depends how much $10 means to you.

The noise levels are almost irrelevant. Moderns HDDs are really quiet. Even the nosiest ones are hardly noticeable; this is especially true if you have a good amount of fans going in your case. I can't hear my 1200JB at all, and my 75GXP is near-silent as well.
 
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andrey

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Originally posted by: corky-g
I have three 180GXP drives - and they are outstanding. They definitely outperformed my 2 Maxtors. IBM did have some bad cases with the 60GXP series, but the 180GXP seem to really be good. These were all 80 GB size.

I have had nothing but good luck with IBM drives over the past 10 years. Go figure!
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Actually I'm in the same boat. I have build systems with 75GXP, 60GXP and now 180GXP. Every single IBM drive performed flawlessly and up to this date they all are running beautifully.

 
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Sunner

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You can't go wrong with either really.
Have a look over at Storagereview.

Oh and ignore the kiddie comments about IBM's, the 75GXP series was indeed very error prone, the 60GXP series was somewhat problematic as well, but far less than the 75's.
Since then, they've been fine, people are just too immature to look past that.

I could scream about WD's sucking cause most of their Caviars happened to suck big time in terms of reliability some 6 years ago, but that has nothing to do with their current products, just like defects with the 75GXP's have nothing to do with the 180GXP series.
 
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LED

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Originally posted by: andrey
Originally posted by: corky-g
I have three 180GXP drives - and they are outstanding. They definitely outperformed my 2 Maxtors. IBM did have some bad cases with the 60GXP series, but the 180GXP seem to really be good. These were all 80 GB size.

I have had nothing but good luck with IBM drives over the past 10 years. Go figure!
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Actually I'm in the same boat. I have build systems with 75GXP, 60GXP and now 180GXP. Every single IBM drive performed flawlessly and up to this date they all are running beautifully.
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Me as well even the 120GXP's...go figure
 
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giocopiano

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I think this is weird! I thought lots of people in a place like this would have the fastest IDE drive. It's cheap too! The fastest drive has been on the market for months and I only find this Maxtor reviewed at Xbit, and no owners.
I don't have a grudge against IBM, their drives worked for me. It was a good solid corporation and their drives stressed data integrity ... until they got mixed up.
 
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godmare

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Originally posted by: Sunner
You can't go wrong with either really.
Have a look over at Storagereview.
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Definitely. I actually think I'll be looking into an IBM HDD before too terribly long due to their near-silence. Almost as quiet as a Barracuda V, but much faster.

 
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One note on IBMs and quiet: they do run quiet most of the time, but they do now have a periodic "cricket chirp" seek to prevent sticking (which was apparently the cause of death in the 75s). This was loud enough to be startling the first few times I heard it.
 
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godmare

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
One note on IBMs and quiet: they do run quiet most of the time, but they do now have a periodic "cricket chirp" seek to prevent sticking (which was apparently the cause of death in the 75s). This was loud enough to be startling the first few times I heard it.
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Interesting. That's definitely noteworthy.
(maybe that sounded sarcastic, but I'm serious.)
 
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DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
One note on IBMs and quiet: they do run quiet most of the time, but they do now have a periodic "cricket chirp" seek to prevent sticking (which was apparently the cause of death in the 75s). This was loud enough to be startling the first few times I heard it.
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Interesting. That's definitely noteworthy.
(maybe that sounded sarcastic, but I'm serious.)
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It's fine for my server PC, now that I know it isn't some weird power supply or fan noise, but I wouldn't want one in a home theater PC. Having a "chirp" in the middle of a movie or listening to music would be very annoying.

 
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Bovinicus

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
It's fine for my server PC, now that I know it isn't some weird power supply or fan noise, but I wouldn't want one in a home theater PC. Having a "chirp" in the middle of a movie or listening to music would be very annoying.
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I think a home theater PC that made that sound would be perfectly fine. The chirp is probably barely audible. If you were watching a movie or listening to music, then you probably wouldn't be able to hear the chirp over the soundtrack.

Also, I don't think that chirp is a normal sound. Even my 3 year old 75GXP doesn't make that noise. I have 2 friends with the same HDD that haven't heard noises like that either. I've never heard any HDD that makes a noise other than the "gringing" noise during heavy usage. IBM 120GXP/180GXP owners please correct me if I'm wrong; I'm basing this assumption purely on personal experience.

This post is all educated guesses. I'm ready for bashing. =)
 
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mrman3k

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Well I guess I will ask a quick question about IBM drives. Ever since teh 120GXP drives, have there been the failures like the 60, and 75GXP drives?
 
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Haden

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I'm running IBM 60GXP (40GB) in our router for 230 days almost non-stop (several reboots only)...
Thought I had problems with some other 60GXPs all 120GXP worked perfectly for me, so I would suggest IBM.
 
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DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Bovinicus
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
It's fine for my server PC, now that I know it isn't some weird power supply or fan noise, but I wouldn't want one in a home theater PC. Having a "chirp" in the middle of a movie or listening to music would be very annoying.
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I think a home theater PC that made that sound would be perfectly fine. The chirp is probably barely audible. If you were watching a movie or listening to music, then you probably wouldn't be able to hear the chirp over the soundtrack.

Also, I don't think that chirp is a normal sound. Even my 3 year old 75GXP doesn't make that noise. I have 2 friends with the same HDD that haven't heard noises like that either. I've never heard any HDD that makes a noise other than the "gringing" noise during heavy usage. IBM 120GXP/180GXP owners please correct me if I'm wrong; I'm basing this assumption purely on personal experience.

This post is all educated guesses. I'm ready for bashing. =)
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The sound is a seek added after the 75 line to keep them from dying like the 75s did, here are quotes from a couple of threads in the SilentPCReview.com Storage forum:
It does happen (less frequently now than when I just got it). Funny enough, when I am not using the computer at all (ready to go to sleep) it doesn't do that. But when I am occasionally accessing HDD, it will make the noise every so often. I can definitely live with that considering the performance gain.
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and another, quoting a response from IBM
Here is what IBM told to me (quite long):

Dear Sir,
Thankyou for your email.
This will be the Idle Time Function of the drive, which is a feature to
improve the reliability of the drive. I do not believe this was a feature
in the DTLA harddrives. . . .
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Dreadogg

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my IBM has been making some wierd noise lately kinda sounded like a eltronic record player sikpping, I ended up changing the Ide cable and it has not happened since, good thing I have a DVD writer so I can keep uptodate drive backups.
 
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Bovinicus

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
The sound is a seek added after the 75 line to keep them from dying like the 75s did, here are quotes from a couple of threads in the SilentPCReview.com Storage forum:
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Alrighty then, my speculation was wrong. Learn something new every day.

 
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ahsia

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Originally posted by: SunnerOh and ignore the kiddie comments about IBM's, the 75GXP series was indeed very error prone, the 60GXP series was somewhat problematic as well, but far less than the 75's.
Since then, they've been fine, people are just too immature to look past that.
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Ditto!

Less 180GXP for you, more for me.... :)

 
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