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jaha2000

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I have a car thats going to the wife, thats the main reason for wanting a compact truck, its going to be a daily driver. I also dont want something so big that i cant park it inside of my garage.
I might go take a drive in the colorado/canyon.
 

StageLeft

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Everyone seems to like the F150 for a reason so at least check out ford. They have sold an ass load of trucks.
 

DietDrThunder

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This is the next truck I'm going to buy. Not only does it have a tailgate, but also the passenger side of the bed folds down to the street. They call it a rampside.

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PricklyPete

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Completely incorrect.

I'm at least partially correct...I have no experience with the vehicle...and it is completely forgettable. Do I care if it is based on something other than the Ford Explorer...not really. I've never heard anything even remotely nice about the truck.
 

kalrith

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well it would be nice to make a home depot run and not have to go borrow peoples stuff. But at the same time not have a giant bus of a vehicle.
The colorado can probably be had for good deals right now too..

There are many small SUVs and even cars that would likely be able to tow what you want. Also, with one of those plus a trailer, you'd likely be able to make whatever Home Depot run you want. As others have said, be sure to decide if you'd be better served by a truck or a different kind of vehicle.

My uncle switched from a Ranger to a Silverado a couple years ago, and his insurance went down by quite a bit. That's another thing to consider in the total cost of ownership.
 

yh125d

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I'd agree on the Ford being forgettable. The bed is really too small to be of much use, the V6 models barely have enough power to drag themselves up hills empty, much less loaded and towing, but the inside is fairly roomy
 

RedRooster

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Dodge Dakota with the 4.7L V8 is another great choice - especially used as they depreciate heavily. Much more interior room than the Compact Frontier, Tacoma, Colorado.
302HP 329TQ

Finally! The previous gen is a very fine looking truck with tons of power out of that 4.7. Highly recommended!
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3chordcharlie

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I have a car thats going to the wife, thats the main reason for wanting a compact truck, its going to be a daily driver. I also dont want something so big that i cant park it inside of my garage.
I might go take a drive in the colorado/canyon.

It kinda blows my mind the people who obviously don't need a truck but want one;)

I would LOVE to stop driving trucks and have something that isn't so lousy on gas, and boring.

Your best bang for your buck if you don't commute too far is likely going to be a half ton. That Dakota 4.7 won't save you any gas, but it will be easier to park.

At any rate, good luck with the hunt.
 

jaha2000

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i might end up with a small SUV.
The truck thing mostly goes to the dirtbike kinda deal. It would be nice to just put it in the back and not have to use a trailer.
 

angry hampster

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Finally! The previous gen is a very fine looking truck with tons of power out of that 4.7. Highly recommended!
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Totally forgot about the Dakota. The current-gen model is hideous, but the older (early 2000s) are still really stylish IMO. The 4.7 is a solid motor that gets decent mileage, and it's a great small workhorse. We have a Dakota shop truck and it sees a ton of use..never skips a beat.
 

PricklyPete

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Totally forgot about the Dakota. The current-gen model is hideous, but the older (early 2000s) are still really stylish IMO. The 4.7 is a solid motor that gets decent mileage, and it's a great small workhorse. We have a Dakota shop truck and it sees a ton of use..never skips a beat.

A guy I worked with had one of these...I believe it was a R/T model. He went through at least one transmission. That would be my only fear with that car...a Chrysler transmission.
 

kornphlake

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I wouldn't count out a truck just because the folks on this board don't like them. Other forums that might more closely match your interests would strongly recommend a truck over a car despite the comparatively poor handling, cost of ownership and often high depreciation.

I go camping at least once a month as a scout master, I drive a fwd sedan and it's only good for hauling 4 passengers and a couple sleeping bags, there isn't enough room for camping gear in the trunk or on the roof. If I go camping by myself (other than backpacking) the trunk is full of gear and the back seat holds an ice chest and other food. I can only go camping with 1 friend unless somebody else drives a truck. The gear has to go in a truck, van or SUV. A sedan just isn't as useful as an extended cab pickup would be for my lifestyle. Not to mention the frequent trips to hardware stores, or moving furniture where I either have to borrow or rent a truck or look like the beverly hillbillies with lumber or pipe strapped to the top of the car. BTW I believe Lowes' rents their truck for $15/hr and if you go over an hour it's like $35/hr and they don't let you pay for a partial hour, you use 78 minutes and you pay for 120, it's cheaper to rent a U-haul unless you're making a very short/quick trip. At least that was the case when I worked there back in 2001. I'd like to be able to just throw my bike in the back of a truck and go instead of having to remove the front wheel and put it in the roof rack too.

I get by without a truck just fine, there's nothing that I can't do not owning one, but my next vehicle will be a truck because for my lifestyle it is a lot more convenient. Even a Honda Ridgeline would be more useful than any sedan for my lifestyle.
 

Evadman

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I would get one of these (in no particular order, all have strengths and weaknesses). All will do what you require.

http://www.suzukiauto.com/equator_extended_cab/
http://www.suzukiauto.com/grand_vitara/?r=left
http://www.toyota.com/fjcruiser/trims-prices.html
http://www.toyota.com/rav4/
http://www.toyota.com/tacoma/
http://www.dodge.com/en/2010/journey/
http://www.dodge.com/en/2010/ram_1500/
http://www.dodge.com/en/2010/dakota/
http://www.fordvehicles.com/suvs/escape/
http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f150/
(I don't think the ranger would be a good fit for you)

If I had to pick for you (without knowing more about you) I would go with the equator for a truck, or a vitara for a SUV. The FJ has more options for camping available in the aftermarket though if you want to camp in/near your vehicle.
 

angry hampster

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A guy I worked with had one of these...I believe it was a R/T model. He went through at least one transmission. That would be my only fear with that car...a Chrysler transmission.



The 46RE was a very problematic transmission. The 5.9L Grand Cherokees had similar issues (2nd gear blowing out). However the 45RFE that's used with the 4.7 is a much better transmission. It's currently used with the much more powerful 5.7L motor with no issues.
 

PricklyPete

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The 46RE was a very problematic transmission. The 5.9L Grand Cherokees had similar issues (2nd gear blowing out). However the 45RFE that's used with the 4.7 is a much better transmission. It's currently used with the much more powerful 5.7L motor with no issues.

I'll take your word on that. I'm really not that familiar with the different transmission engine combinations on the various Dodge/Jeep/Chyrsler cars...I just have known too many people with different Chyrsler products that have had transmission issues. I'm sure there are some good transmissions in the Chrysler lineup though.
 
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It kinda blows my mind the people who obviously don't need a truck but want one;)
Why, what is wrong with wanting a truck? A truck or SUV has more positives than just being able to tow more weight or carry more cargo. It can go places cars can not. Stuck on the highway in traffic that hasn't gone anywhere in 30 minutes? Drive off the damn highway.

It seems to many people care what others think of them and worry if a decision they make is acceptible to others. The only person is should matter is to the buyer.

If the OP wants a truck "just" to get stuff occasionally from Home Depot and to tow dirt bikes, but doesn't want to drive a truck all the time, he should look at a $3-5000 used Silverado/F150. There are millions of them out there that have decades of life left in them.
 
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I'll take your word on that. I'm really not that familiar with the different transmission engine combinations on the various Dodge/Jeep/Chyrsler cars...I just have known too many people with different Chyrsler products that have had transmission issues. I'm sure there are some good transmissions in the Chrysler lineup though.

Dodge =Drips Oil, Drops Grease, Everywhere
Dodge is also a selve serving damn as you should dodge getting a Dodge.
 

3chordcharlie

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Why, what is wrong with wanting a truck? A truck or SUV has more positives than just being able to tow more weight or carry more cargo. It can go places cars can not. Stuck on the highway in traffic that hasn't gone anywhere in 30 minutes? Drive off the damn highway.

It seems to many people care what others think of them and worry if a decision they make is acceptible to others. The only person is should matter is to the buyer.

If the OP wants a truck "just" to get stuff occasionally from Home Depot and to tow dirt bikes, but doesn't want to drive a truck all the time, he should look at a $3-5000 used Silverado/F150. There are millions of them out there that have decades of life left in them.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, but OP already confirmed this is a daily-driver. F150 is a great vehicle, but you could drive something a lot nicer and rent a truck when needed based on the extra maintenance and fuel costs.

I'm not going to try to talk anyone out of buying a truck, but OP said he 'needed' one, when what he means is he 'wants' one. Which is absolutely fine.
 
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I would get one of these (in no particular order, all have strengths and weaknesses). All will do what you require.

http://www.suzukiauto.com/equator_extended_cab/
http://www.suzukiauto.com/grand_vitara/?r=left
http://www.toyota.com/fjcruiser/trims-prices.html
http://www.toyota.com/rav4/
http://www.toyota.com/tacoma/
http://www.dodge.com/en/2010/journey/
http://www.dodge.com/en/2010/ram_1500/
http://www.dodge.com/en/2010/dakota/
http://www.fordvehicles.com/suvs/escape/
http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f150/
(I don't think the ranger would be a good fit for you)

If I had to pick for you (without knowing more about you) I would go with the equator for a truck, or a vitara for a SUV. The FJ has more options for camping available in the aftermarket though if you want to camp in/near your vehicle.

Why would you choose the Equator truck? I have not heard of that one before so im assuming its new. What are your reasonings behind that choice? Im curious since i know nothing about it.
 

PricklyPete

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Why would you choose the Equator truck? I have not heard of that one before so im assuming its new. What are your reasonings behind that choice? Im curious since i know nothing about it.

It's a Nissan Frontier...for less money I believe. If buying new though, I'd assume getting the Nissan is the better bet as it should hold its value longer.
 

hanoverphist

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Would not touch a Ridgeline. Its shocks/struts are valved so softly they will blow out on worn washboarded gravel roads.

The Sport-Trac with the 4.6L V8 is a great choice. 292HP & 315TQ!
15-city 21 hwy

Dodge Dakota with the 4.7L V8 is another great choice - especially used as they depreciate heavily. Much more interior room than the Compact Frontier, Tacoma, Colorado.
302HP 329TQ

wrong.

2000-2004 - 4.7 L (287 cu in) PowerTech V8, 230 hp (170 kW)

just a bit more tq and hp than the older 5.2L (318) that i have in my ram 1500.

those dakotas with the v8s do move tho, not sure about their towing.
 

krunchykrome

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Looking for a small crew cab.
Stuff in the running right now....
Honda Ridgeline
Toyota Tacoma
Ford Sport Trac

Just something to do some minor towing (small boat, motorcycle trailer). Camping trips and stuff like that.

Leaning towards the Honda.

I'd look at the Honda Ridgeline or the Toyota Tacoma. Wouldn't consider the Ford sport trac, although I would definitely consider a F-150
 

Turin39789

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Happy Ranger owner here, I would have liked the extended cab but can't get that with the 4cyl. That means I don't get to put my tailgate up with I am hauling a motorcycle in the bed, but the straps hold and it gets there.

Solid engine and platform even if a little boring for not having been updated in awhile. I've been getting an average of 24mpg even with a lead foot. Would like to see it up a bit, we'll see if a tune up will help.