Me neither, but I doubt most people can or wish to change, so I'm happy keeping this idiot locked away for the rest of his natural days.
Felony murder. Involves.....a felony. Typically something that has the clear intent of violence and/or destruction of life/property.
In the commission of a felony, if someone dies, then it's usually felony murder and comes with a capital crimes charge.
This guy deserves worse, he should be glad he's only getting the death penalty.
This guy deserves worse, he should be glad he's only getting the death penalty.
PJ - your analogies are all wrong - although I'd argue that if you are drunk and you hit someone and kill them it should be a felony as well - but this guy intentionally lit fires - it's logical to think that some of these fires - given conditions in CA - would become very large and dangerous fires, and in fact could be dangerous to people living nearby or trying to fight the fire.
Skoorb - people can change? Do you realize how many of our violent crimes are committed by people that are multiple offenders? Our prison system doesn't reform people, it makes them better criminals. Do some people change having gone to prison? Sure, but they are by far the minority, not the majority.
Skoorb - people can change? Do you realize how many of our violent crimes are committed by people that are multiple offenders? Our prison system doesn't reform people, it makes them better criminals. Do some people change having gone to prison? Sure, but they are by far the minority, not the majority.
the guy SET FIRES....it is reasonable to expect that when you set more than one INTENTIONALLY people could very well die...including and especially the firefighters.
burn this mother fucker.
burn this mother fucker.
MovingTarget
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I support the death penalty, however, it isn't supposed to apply to arson. Just because your actions result in the death of another doesn't mean that you should be subject to capital punishment. Eye for an eye doesn't apply as there are many more qualitative and intrinsic details that factor into what a proper sentence should be. By the 'gangreous limb' argument for capital punishment which I subscribe to, this man does not represent that kind of danger to society. He should be incarcerated only, not executed.
Intentionally set fire to a building, you are committing arson.
Intentionally set fire to a building and kill some one, you are committing murder.
Accidentally set a building on fire, you committed arson.
Accidentally set fire to a building and kill some one, you are guilty of manslaughter or second degree.
Of course a firefighter whose job is to search for victims and control the fire goes in and dies, makes it first degree murder. 'caues the arsonist knows that is what firefighters do.
Intentionally set fire to a building and kill some one, you are committing murder.
Accidentally set a building on fire, you committed arson.
Accidentally set fire to a building and kill some one, you are guilty of manslaughter or second degree.
Of course a firefighter whose job is to search for victims and control the fire goes in and dies, makes it first degree murder. 'caues the arsonist knows that is what firefighters do.
ManyBeers
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It doesn't matter if the goal was to kill someone or not. If the death of another occurs during the commission of felony, then you can be tried for murder. Particularly if the death was a foreseeable result of the felony act - arson in this case and its easily foreseeable that firefighters and innocent civilians could die.
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