Death penalty for repeat child rapists?

[JEDI]

CNN

"South Carolina's Senate voted 38-4 to allow the death penalty for sex offenders convicted a second time of raping children younger than 11. Oklahoma lawmakers are considering a similar bill."

Like most of the 38 states allowing capital punishment, South Carolina and Oklahoma reserve the death penalty for murderers. "

There's the 3 strikes and you get life law in California. (unless it's been overturned???)

If you're a repeat violent offender, you're obviously not reformed after being convicted for a 3rd time for, say, aggravated assault. But why should the tax payers $$ be spent to house them, feed them, provide medical, etc for the next 40+ yrs?

Why not 3 strikes and you're dead?

 

[BoomerD]

I have no problem with the death penalty for repeat rapists, whether it;s kids or not. The repeat criminal thing....habitual criminals...I dunno if killing them is right. Yeah, it's hella spendy keeping them in jail, but unless they've really done something that justifies the death penalty, I'd say no...Also, I think they need to re-write the 3-strikes law. Now, people can get arrested for something stupid like shoplifting, and get the 3rd strike. THAT's a bit harsh, even if it IS another crime. IMO, the crimes that can be considered strikes need to be serious ones, not shoplifting or minor drug posession.

 

[CSMR]

In principle it sounds good but there are huge problems with this in America: massive legal costs, social turmoil caused by political opposition, and legal and political infeasability of reliable and prompt execution of the law.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Cost is a horrible argument for capital punishment, even if there were savings (there are not).

I think bills like this are borne of simple bloodlust.

 

[halik]

repost from o/t

 

[aidanjm]

idiotic

 

[dguy6789]

Repeat rapists should be eliminated. I believe that the multiple year waiting line is rediculous. Once convicted to death, they should be removed that day, or at most, the day after.(This goes for all death sentences, not just repeat rapists)

Speaking of other crimes; If someone stole something, then went to jail, then got out, that is fine. There is a small possibility that the person could lead a moderately nice life if they have really changed their ways. However, if they commit just one more crime, then they have proven that they are going to do it again and again. These repeat offenders should be eliminated. They are nothing but a negative to society and do not benefit society in any way by living. Therefore, there is no reason to allow them to live.

Something(These entities are no longer people. They are useless pieces of meat that take up space) that is of no value to society should not be permitted to exist.

 

[sandorski]

The Death Penalty should be eliminated.

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: sandorski
The Death Penalty should be eliminated.

Why? Are you suggesting that life in prison is a better method to deal with prisoners?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: dguy6789

Originally posted by: sandorski
The Death Penalty should be eliminated.

Why? Are you suggesting that life in prison is a better method to deal with prisoners?

Yes.

 

[JacobJ]

Great idea -- eliminate all the useless people so that the ones worth a damn don't have to pay for them.

Too many people in this country are getting a free ride in prison when they just don't deserve to live.

People who are a negative benefit to society should be sent straight to the death-house. Why should we have to put up with their crap?

 

[jrenz]

I used to fully support the death penalty, but now I feel that until the system for determining guilt is perfect (never), the death penalty should be avoided. Too many recent cases of decisions being reversed due to new evidence.

Besides... the DP is basically life in prison now anyway, what with the extensive appeals process.

Or we can just send all our criminals to Australia.

 

[Kirby]

implement trial by ordeals

 

[BarneyFife]

Actually I would implement prisons like they have in 3rd world countries. Many of the inmates would wish for the death penalty after a few weeks.

 

[umbrella39]

Drop them all off on a island in the Pacific. Air drop them basic supplies 3x a year and let THEM sort out the rest.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: dguy6789
Repeat rapists should be eliminated. I believe that the multiple year waiting line is rediculous. Once convicted to death, they should be removed that day, or at most, the day after.(This goes for all death sentences, not just repeat rapists)

Speaking of other crimes; If someone stole something, then went to jail, then got out, that is fine. There is a small possibility that the person could lead a moderately nice life if they have really changed their ways. However, if they commit just one more crime, then they have proven that they are going to do it again and again. These repeat offenders should be eliminated. They are nothing but a negative to society and do not benefit society in any way by living. Therefore, there is no reason to allow them to live.

Something(These entities are no longer people. They are useless pieces of meat that take up space) that is of no value to society should not be permitted to exist.

What happens when 5 years later its discovered that the person was innocent? What then? You just go up the family and go "oops?".
Do you believe we should summarily execute the mentally ill, the retarded and the sick? Generally they don't have much of a use to society. So start up the gas chambers and start wheeling people in.

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: dguy6789
Repeat rapists should be eliminated. I believe that the multiple year waiting line is rediculous. Once convicted to death, they should be removed that day, or at most, the day after.(This goes for all death sentences, not just repeat rapists)

Speaking of other crimes; If someone stole something, then went to jail, then got out, that is fine. There is a small possibility that the person could lead a moderately nice life if they have really changed their ways. However, if they commit just one more crime, then they have proven that they are going to do it again and again. These repeat offenders should be eliminated. They are nothing but a negative to society and do not benefit society in any way by living. Therefore, there is no reason to allow them to live.

Something(These entities are no longer people. They are useless pieces of meat that take up space) that is of no value to society should not be permitted to exist.

What happens when 5 years later its discovered that the person was innocent? What then? You just go up the family and go "oops?".
Do you believe we should summarily execute the mentally ill, the retarded and the sick? Generally they don't have much of a use to society. So start up the gas chambers and start wheeling people in.

Those anomalies are ones that I am willing to risk taking. The death of one innocent to kill a thousand who are not innocent is justified. The mentally ill and such is a very touchy subject that would nodoubtedly start a flame war, so it is best left unsaid.

 

[Taejin]

Originally posted by: JEDI
CNN

"South Carolina's Senate voted 38-4 to allow the death penalty for sex offenders convicted a second time of raping children younger than 11. Oklahoma lawmakers are considering a similar bill."

Like most of the 38 states allowing capital punishment, South Carolina and Oklahoma reserve the death penalty for murderers. "

There's the 3 strikes and you get life law in California. (unless it's been overturned???)

If you're a repeat violent offender, you're obviously not reformed after being convicted for a 3rd time for, say, aggravated assault. But why should the tax payers $$ be spent to house them, feed them, provide medical, etc for the next 40+ yrs?

Why not 3 strikes and you're dead?

I thought you should know that the costs incurred by death penalty is greater than life in prison.

I'm for the death penalty, and costs is not my concern .

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: JacobJ
Great idea -- eliminate all the useless people so that the ones worth a damn don't have to pay for them.

Too many people in this country are getting a free ride in prison when they just don't deserve to live.

People who are a negative benefit to society should be sent straight to the death-house. Why should we have to put up with their crap?

Exactly. :thumbsup:

 

[zendari]

The cost is only significant because our legal system makes it so. That can be changed.

 

[Smartazz]

If we kill murderers. why not rape rapists?--Jon Stewart.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: dguy6789

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: dguy6789
Repeat rapists should be eliminated. I believe that the multiple year waiting line is rediculous. Once convicted to death, they should be removed that day, or at most, the day after.(This goes for all death sentences, not just repeat rapists)

Speaking of other crimes; If someone stole something, then went to jail, then got out, that is fine. There is a small possibility that the person could lead a moderately nice life if they have really changed their ways. However, if they commit just one more crime, then they have proven that they are going to do it again and again. These repeat offenders should be eliminated. They are nothing but a negative to society and do not benefit society in any way by living. Therefore, there is no reason to allow them to live.

Something(These entities are no longer people. They are useless pieces of meat that take up space) that is of no value to society should not be permitted to exist.

What happens when 5 years later its discovered that the person was innocent? What then? You just go up the family and go "oops?".
Do you believe we should summarily execute the mentally ill, the retarded and the sick? Generally they don't have much of a use to society. So start up the gas chambers and start wheeling people in.

Those anomalies are ones that I am willing to risk taking. The death of one innocent to kill a thousand who are not innocent is justified. The mentally ill and such is a very touchy subject that would nodoubtedly start a flame war, so it is best left unsaid.

Are you willing to be that innocent? I doubt it.

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: dguy6789

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: dguy6789
Repeat rapists should be eliminated. I believe that the multiple year waiting line is rediculous. Once convicted to death, they should be removed that day, or at most, the day after.(This goes for all death sentences, not just repeat rapists)

Speaking of other crimes; If someone stole something, then went to jail, then got out, that is fine. There is a small possibility that the person could lead a moderately nice life if they have really changed their ways. However, if they commit just one more crime, then they have proven that they are going to do it again and again. These repeat offenders should be eliminated. They are nothing but a negative to society and do not benefit society in any way by living. Therefore, there is no reason to allow them to live.

Something(These entities are no longer people. They are useless pieces of meat that take up space) that is of no value to society should not be permitted to exist.

What happens when 5 years later its discovered that the person was innocent? What then? You just go up the family and go "oops?".
Do you believe we should summarily execute the mentally ill, the retarded and the sick? Generally they don't have much of a use to society. So start up the gas chambers and start wheeling people in.

Those anomalies are ones that I am willing to risk taking. The death of one innocent to kill a thousand who are not innocent is justified. The mentally ill and such is a very touchy subject that would nodoubtedly start a flame war, so it is best left unsaid.

Are you willing to be that innocent? I doubt it.

If you are speaking of my life in trade for a thousand murderers being eliminated, I would do that. Whatever good I would do in life would likely be outweighed by the grief that one thousand murderers have caused. I would die if it was the only thing stopping thousands who deserve to die from dieing.

 

[JacobJ]

Originally posted by: dguy6789

Originally posted by: JacobJ
Great idea -- eliminate all the useless people so that the ones worth a damn don't have to pay for them.

Too many people in this country are getting a free ride in prison when they just don't deserve to live.

People who are a negative benefit to society should be sent straight to the death-house. Why should we have to put up with their crap?

Exactly. :thumbsup:

I'm glad you agree

I firmly believe that people who are no benifit to society, those who would rape our children, take advantage of our government's goodwill, or add only negative benifit while providing nothing in return should be killed. These people are a drain on society -- they don't deserve to live. They should be killed. Why should we let them continue to harm us?

 

[CitizenKain]

That is a very grim view of life you have.