Death by firing squad

Oakenfold · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: necro702

Originally posted by: ausm
I think they should shoot them S.O.B.s right after their trial, Screw the appeals which cost us taxpayers millions and millions of dollars/year .

Letting those A-holes typically rot on death row for 10-15 years is ridiculus,

Ausm

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You dumb @#$@#$@#. Do you know how many people have been wrongfully convicted
and rotted on death row for NOTHING!?!

Right..
I believe that one.
So many innocents on DR..
hehe..

Jzero · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: MachFive
Actually, when I looked into it, this is how it was done. I don't recall the source, because this was several years ago, so I can't verify the validity, but anyways.

As far as I could read, typically there are 5 to 7 gunmen. Only ONE of them has a real bullet, the others have hot-loaded blanks designed to produce a similar amount of recoil to the live rounds. It doesn't matter that it's not exact, because they don't have a comparison. They may "remember" that gun and that type of bullet being heavier in recoil, but since they're not shooting both to compare to, they don't think any differently.

The State whose laws I was looking into (again, this was several years ago; it was the last case where there was a death by firing squad), it was a headshot, aimed at the center of the brainpan. That way, any bullet that pierced, no matter what angle, would hit part of the frontal lobe, part of the rear lobe, and damage the corpus callosum.

Any rapid googlers may want to dig up some current sources though. I may be remembering incorrectly, or what I read may have been wrong.

But it sounds right.

The posted article states that there are 7 shooters with one blank. In the last firing squad execution, also in Utah (1996), he was shot in the heart as well.

classy · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: ausm
I think they should shoot them S.O.B.s right after their trial, Screw the appeals which cost us taxpayers millions and millions of dollars/year .

Letting those A-holes typically rot on death row for 10-15 years is ridiculus,

Ausm

Agreed. I just don't understand the appeals nonsense.

classy · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Wait...I've got it! How about that new Smith and Wesson .50 Caliber Pistol ? I bet that would make a mess with 2600ft/lb of muzzle energy! :Q:Q

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Nice Pic

:Q

compudog · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Anyone who sues over the rights of a serial killer and a white supremacist has a few issues with morality. - M4H

Animals like these guys deserve less than a humane injection or firing squad. IMHO.

Gunslinger08 · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: ausm
I think they should shoot them S.O.B.s right after their trial, Screw the appeals which cost us taxpayers millions and millions of dollars/year .

Letting those A-holes typically rot on death row for 10-15 years is ridiculus,

Ausm

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Agreed. I just don't understand the appeals nonsense.

Juries can make mistakes. Just do a google for "death row wrongful conviction" or something similar.. you'll see just how prevalent the problem is. I'm a supporter of the death penalty, but it does have it's downsides. People have been and will be killed for a crime they didn't commit. Use of the death penalty costs more than life in prison, with all of the appeals and paperwork that must be done.

Josh

Chess · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
I had no idea this was still being done!

Apparently two inmates will be executed by firing squad next month.

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OVer in Utah, and you would think they wouldnt promote violence LMFAO

Vadatajs · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: ausm
I think they should shoot them S.O.B.s right after their trial, Screw the appeals which cost us taxpayers millions and millions of dollars/year .

Letting those A-holes typically rot on death row for 10-15 years is ridiculus,

Ausm

Look real hard at texas's records and say that's a good idea again.

Gage8 · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
If I had to die, it had better be painless. Getting shot in the heart by a high-powered rifle will hurt. Immensely.

only for a second...

Gage8 · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Wait...I've got it! How about that new Smith and Wesson .50 Caliber Pistol ? I bet that would make a mess with 2600ft/lb of muzzle energy! :Q:Q

Edit:

Nice Pic

comon...make my day

Jmmsbnd007 · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: Wintermute76

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
I hope they get shot by a fscking .22. A lot more pain that way.

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What .22? .22 short, .22 LR, .22 WMR, .22 Hornet, .223 Rem., .22-250........

.223 doesn't count, llama

RIMFIRE 22 CALIBER LONG RIFLE, 40 GRAIN LEAD ROUND NOSE BULLET

Oh, and you forgot .22 Long

Jmmsbnd007 · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Just curious...why do they shoot at the heart? Wouldn't a single head shot do the trick? Also, are 6-7 men needed to hit one guy in the heart? Seems like a waste of ammo. I think two guys would make more sense...one guy has blanks so neither one knows who killed the prisoner.

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Come to think of it, why guys standing back with rifles? Why not have one guy stand next to him with a pistol to the back of the head?

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Because people are bad shots. Look at cops, they hit 20% of their targets. You think prison guards are any better?

Totally different here. You're comparing an extreme panic situation with a pistol, and in some cases the cops report not even seeing their sights, and they all fire multiple shots quickly. Here you're looking at guys with very accurate and high powered rifles 10 yards away, with plenty of time to aim, under little stress.

Jmmsbnd007 · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Wait...I've got it! How about that new Smith and Wesson .50 Caliber Pistol ? I bet that would make a mess with 2600ft/lb of muzzle energy! :Q:Q

Edit:

Nice Pic

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:Q

Bah, nothing compared to a .50BMG. 14,000 foot pounds of goodness :-D Damn thing can penetrate the armor on a Sherman tank and keep on going!

crumpet19 · May 24, 2003

I'd shoot him in the crotch.

Lithium381 · May 24, 2003

they should make it as painful as possible, these guys deserve every bit of it for what they did......and don't let them sit there for a while, just do it like someone already said right after the trial, and save us money

m2kewl · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: crumpet19
I'd shoot him in the crotch.

then the kneecaps, elbows, and main artery...thus allowing a slow and painful death

Mill · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Anyone who sues over the rights of a serial killer and a white supremacist has a few issues with morality.

- M4H

They have the same rights as anyone else on Death Row and SHOULD have the same rights. The appeals processs in necessary, but it should be streamlined.

stormbv · May 24, 2003

I'd rather see 100 murderers spend their life in prison if it means one innocent man avoiding an unjust death.

m2kewl · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: stormbv
I'd rather see 100 murderers spend their life in prison if it means one innocent man avoiding an unjust death.

while this is sad, how can i justify wasteful spending of my tax dollars to allow 100 murderers life in prison? they get, three meals a day, healthcare, a gym, tv and internet access???!

this country's gone mad. we have more people in prison then any other nation. i'd say shoot then 100 and use the $$ saved for other useful expeditures.

rawoutput · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: m2kewl

Originally posted by: stormbv
I'd rather see 100 murderers spend their life in prison if it means one innocent man avoiding an unjust death.

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while this is sad, how can i justify wasteful spending of my tax dollars to allow 100 murderers life in prison? they get, three meals a day, healthcare, a gym, tv and internet access???!

this country's gone mad. we have more people in prison then any other nation. i'd say shoot then 100 and use the $$ saved for other useful expeditures.

Well if we ease up the laws on drug possession and nonviolent crimes then I'm sure the jails would open up a lot more space for people who actually deserve them.

JohnPaul · May 24, 2003

I don't know if any of you saw this or not, but HBO or some other cable channel had a documentary on one of these guys who is going to be shot. His name is Kell, and he's on death row for the murder of an inmate while in jail. They have video of the killing and showed the whole thing, and I have to say that I have seen a ton of hardcore stuff in my time, but that had to be the most disturbing killing I have ever seen in my life. The prison guards sat behind the glass in awe as this guy Kell walked up to Lonnie Blackman and stabbed him many many times with a homemade knife. It didn't kill him for a long time, and Kell just kept stabbing, slowly, while his friend stood over him taking a couple stabs himself and making sure nobody could stop them. It was very disturbing, mainly because the guy wouldn't die and was pleading for his life as this guy just kept stabbing him, and everyone in the prison was horrified, except for a few egging him on. That says a lot when prisoners are horrified by violence. The guards came in wearing riot gear after about a half an hour, don't ask what took so long, something about the prisoners rioting. I think that this actually happened after they locked themselves in with the poor guy just to do this and the guards couldn't get in, but even when they could they didn't for some reason. Anyhow, I just thought I would tell you all about this guy who is on the row. He definitely deserves to die. Without a doubt. For those with strong stomachs, you may want to see that video if you like stuff like that. I am almost positive it was on HBO.

If you want to check out the story, do a search for Troy Kell and Death Row. BTW, it was an HBO American Undercover. Here is a link

Also, on the issue of whether or not it's painless. Well, it might not be if it were to be done to the head, but since it's being done to his heart and ribcage, I would imagine he'll feel it for a second or two.

Wheezer · May 24, 2003

Originally posted by: stormbv
I'd rather see 100 murderers spend their life in prison if it means one innocent man avoiding an unjust death.

Easy to say when a loved one is not a victim.

IMO I think there should be ONE appeal...within a year of conviction. If after that trial the suspect is found guilty then execution within 6 months of verdict.

przero · May 26, 2003

Bleep - Religion thing? Where do you get these ideas?

BooGiMaN - Hang'em too high and it pulls their head off. Too low chokes 'em.

Remember "Braveheart" ? Drawn and quartered!! Now that's an execution!!!

Marauder- · May 27, 2003

Originally posted by: Shanti
It will certainly not be instant and painless.
But still way too painless for those guys. They should be shot with bb guns once every 10 seconds until they've been hit enough to die. Would probably take days.

Oh man...

Marauder- · May 27, 2003

Originally posted by: Shanti
It will certainly not be instant and painless.
But still way too painless for those guys. They should be shot with bb guns once every 10 seconds until they've been hit enough to die. Would probably take days.

damn these doubles...

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