Dear Steve Jobs,

[sxr7171]

Lack of flash on the iPad has caused me problems, and hence I cannot take it when traveling.

That having been said, I'm glad they are standing up to Adobe. That thing is a horrible resource hog and needs to go the way of the dodo.

 

[badb0y]

I disable flash on my Atrix. Am I an evil person?

 

[akugami]

I love the apple mentality: Steve will get it to work, soon, someday, some year....Please, you guys will wait for a flash alternitive long after steve is dead, in the meantime, un non-sheep will continue to enjoy our flash content, resource hog or not.

Yes. You sure aren't a sheep like those of us with Apple products. Because it's not like there are millions of anti-Apple people screaming and hollering in across the internet about how Apple users are sheep.

Apple Hater #1: Hey, let's go call the Apple users sheep!
Apple Hater #2: What original thinking! It's not like that hasn't been done by 50 million other people! Let's go do it right away!

You call someone who has an Apple product a sheep and yet you can't wrap your head around the fact that not everyone needs, or even wants, Flash. I don't play Flash games. Most Flash based web sites just plain suck. Flash video is being depreciated. There's not a whole lot of reason to get Flash on a mobile platform nowadays considering some of the cons it brings such as being a resource hog and having security issues.

 

[dawks]

Stop being a D.B. and enable flash for the iPad.

TYVM

Weird, i was just considering writing a blog post about how I think flash needs to go away entirely. Its such a frustrating product and should be removed from every website/device/browser. The future awaits.

 

[ultimatebob]

Weird, i was just considering writing a blog post about how I think flash needs to go away entirely. Its such a frustrating product and should be removed from every website/device/browser. The future awaits.

But it's not going away. If anything, new sites are coming out every day that require Flash.

I'm with the OP... stop being a douche hose, Steve.

 

[midwestfisherman]

But it's not going away. If anything, new sites are coming out every day that require Flash.

I'm with the OP... stop being a douche hose, Steve.

+1

 

[MaxFusion16]

You want flash?
Go buy a xoom, I hear they are having a sale.

 

[dawks]

But it's not going away. If anything, new sites are coming out every day that require Flash.

I'm with the OP... stop being a douche hose, Steve.

Its probably equally likely that you'll see Steve swap iOS for Windows 7 on the iPad, as he'll put flash on there.

Your time will be better spent encouraging website designers to STOP using flash, so we can move beyond this garbage.

I too find it frustrating that flash sites dont work on my iPad, but I'd much rather see the website designed PROPERLY, than keep begging Apple for an extra piece of trash software.

 

[kmmatney]

Flash on my Android phones sucks hard.

Flash on my old Nook Color sucked hard too. It was sometimes cool, but it mostly just sucked. I have an iPad2 now, and haven't missed flash yet. The videos at most websites I visit, like ESPN and CNN, play just fine, so they must be using something other than flash.

 

[2disbetter]

I played with a Playbook in the store for quite a while and while the browser is pretty awesome, some of the flash content is REALLY annoying.

There's no way to do rollovers with a touch screen, and I ended up clicking on a lot of the ads by accident because they triggered when I put my finger on them when I was trying to grab the screen and drag it around to scroll.

On the N900 this is resolved by moving your finger from the left of the screen towards the center. This cause a cursor to appear which can be used for rollover. You can also click and icon that shows up in the same corner to permanently enable the cursor until you click that button again.

It's the best touch solution I've seen for desktop browsing.



For me it's not about whether Apple has made a good decision here or not. I find it extremely totalitarian for a computer company to tell it's customers how and what kind of content they can view. Dont' get me started on the things I loath in iOS... If only they didn't make such good looking hardware (Read: I did not say powerful, just good looking) I could completely hate them.

2d

 

[sportage]

Im an apple's guy. Whats flash?

 

[TheStu]

On the N900 this is resolved by moving your finger from the left of the screen towards the center. This cause a cursor to appear which can be used for rollover. You can also click and icon that shows up in the same corner to permanently enable the cursor until you click that button again.

It's the best touch solution I've seen for desktop browsing.



For me it's not about whether Apple has made a good decision here or not. I find it extremely totalitarian for a computer company to tell it's customers how and what kind of content they can view. Dont' get me started on the things I loath in iOS... If only they didn't make such good looking hardware (Read: I did not say powerful, just good looking) I could completely hate them.

2d

Real shame you are forced to use their products then.

 

[2disbetter]

Real shame you are forced to use their products then.

I suppose at it's core, you are correct. However if one wishes to develop for any iOS or mac product, one most "officially" own at least one piece of apple hardware.

Trying to make money and approving of a companies vision for all are two different things.

2d

PS: I don't really have a problem with OS X. Windows is superior for my purposes by a landslide (game development). Viva Direct X!

 

[Aikouka]

I do wish you could develop for iOS without owning a Mac. :\

 

[akugami]

I suppose at it's core, you are correct. However if one wishes to develop for any iOS or mac product, one most "officially" own at least one piece of apple hardware.

Trying to make money and approving of a companies vision for all are two different things.

2d

PS: I don't really have a problem with OS X. Windows is superior for my purposes by a landslide (game development). Viva Direct X!

If you develop for a console, you'd need to buy a development system from the console OEM anyways. Developing for iOS isn't a whole lot different from that perspective.

And your comment about making money from another company's product and approving of that company's vision being two different things is very true. There are a lot of people who may not agree with Apple's way of doing things but because of the size of Apple's app store, they find it is easier to make money from iOS development. Just like I can say that iOS and iPhones does enough things that make it an attractive product for me without agreeing with everything Apple does.

There are a lot of things that Apple can do to improve their mobile OS. I'm just not sure that including Flash is one of them since Adobe has proven time and again that while Flash has many qualities that make it attractive, there are also a lot of negatives that Adobe has not been able to eliminate.

 

[Nothinman]

If you develop for a console, you'd need to buy a development system from the console OEM anyways. Developing for iOS isn't a whole lot different from that perspective.

But it is different because you have to buy a Mac on top of the devices on which you want to test your app. And a Mac is a lot more expensive than an XBox, PS3, iPhone, etc. If Apple would release an SDK for Windows and/or Linux then it would be comparable, but that will never happen.

 

[alent1234]

But it is different because you have to buy a Mac on top of the devices on which you want to test your app. And a Mac is a lot more expensive than an XBox, PS3, iPhone, etc. If Apple would release an SDK for Windows and/or Linux then it would be comparable, but that will never happen.

it's not like game devs use $299 specials to develop games. they use expensive workstations that are priced like Mac's

 

[gorcorps]

Dear Steve Jobs,

If the OP knew what was best for the industry, he'd be CEO of a multi-billion dollar tech company as well.

Sincerely,
somebody who believes flash should die

 

[akugami]

But it is different because you have to buy a Mac on top of the devices on which you want to test your app. And a Mac is a lot more expensive than an XBox, PS3, iPhone, etc. If Apple would release an SDK for Windows and/or Linux then it would be comparable, but that will never happen.

The user, 2disbetter, was complaining that you'd have to buy Apple products to develop for it. This is a weird sentiment since it's the same on any platform which is what I was trying to point out. Your actual argument seems to stem more from a cost perspective which is different from the poster 2disbetter's argument. And I'd argue that if you develop for Android, the cost is probably about the same since you'd want to properly test your software on various hardware and software configurations. This likely means multiple Android devices.

As far as cost goes, a Mac is a lot more expensive than an Xbox 360, PS3, etc. but it's a lot cheaper than an Xbox 360 development kit, or a PS3 development kit. Those run about $10k per dev kit and you'd still need a PC. If we're going from a blank slate, a complete iOS development system will run you $2500 ($1200 iMac, $800 iPhone, $500 iPad). Not counting any software you need of course. On the Android side it can go from about $1400 to well over $2500. We'd need to purchase a PC for about $500 minimum, at least one Android phone $500 (unsibsidized pricing), and a tablet at $400. Considering the fact that you'd likely want to thoroughly test your software if you are developing anything demanding, you might need to buy multiple Android phones and tablets. Place I'm working at is testing their software on 4 different Android tablets as an example. So it can cost as little as $1500 or more than on the Mac side.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Not counting any software you need of course.

Xcode comes free with lion. Which is basically all you need.

 

[midwestfisherman]

Dear Steve Jobs,

If the OP knew what was best for the industry, he'd be CEO of a multi-billion dollar tech company as well.

Sincerely,
somebody who believes flash should die

LOL....how do you know that I'm not a CEO?

 

[Ns1]

Logmein ignition for the pad makes it 100000% more useful

 

[midwestfisherman]

Logmein ignition for the pad makes it 100000% more useful

Please explain.

 

[Aikouka]

Logmein ignition for the pad makes it 100000% more useful

Splashtop is far cheaper and supports internet discovery. Although, I've had issues where my Windows 7 desktop will revert to Windows Basic theme when I use Splashtop. I finally saw why... apparently, when using Splashtop, I get a Windows notification saying I am "out of resources" and it must revert to the basic theme.

 

[Ns1]

Splashtop is far cheaper and supports internet discovery. Although, I've had issues where my Windows 7 desktop will revert to Windows Basic theme when I use Splashtop. I finally saw why... apparently, when using Splashtop, I get a Windows notification saying I am "out of resources" and it must revert to the basic theme.

I dl'ed both and I found logmein way easier/better. Of course, maybe it's cuz I already have logmein on all my clients computers.

To the other poster: when I meet a deficiency in the tablet I just login to my computer and do what I need to do.