Dear SBC -

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Every year we go through the same little song and dance. SBC informs me that 1) my DSL contract is about to expire and 2) if I do nothing SBC will start charging me 2x for the same service that I have been receiving for the last 12 months.

Easy right? I just call em up and say don't start charging me extra! Of course it would be even easier if they would just extend the same terms for another 12 months, but I guess that isn't tapping into the add-on fees and charges market aggressively enough.

Instead, SBC goes to great lengths to make sure that there are the little speed bumps along the way.

Last year they insisted that all this information should be sent to me through the email address they gave us with the account. Not a bad idea I suppose considering that I have never ever used that email account and you'll get at least one inflated billing cycle out of me before I catch on that my rate has doubled. I called and bitched at them. They removed the charges, and I renewed my contract. A big waste of time for me and their call center, but in the end contentedness was had.

This year, I guess there were enough complaints about the whole email correspondence thing. This year, they sent me an actual letter informing me that the year is almost up and that I should go to a web site where I can conviently go to and renew my contract. They obviously put a lot of work into it as its pretty and well designed. However, I can't help but notice that there is no discontinue option. I can either 1) renew at a given rate (slightly more than I am paying now) or 2) not renew and start paying month to month at 3 times the rate I am paying now. How about and third option for telling SBC that I am sick of this little dance?

SBC, you're fired.

UPDATE: Cancelled SBC as of 1-06. Our billing cycle began on the second. Of course they billed us for a whole additional month, prompting a call to their service department 15 minutes of explaining the problem (explained in full to two different people), and an uncontested reversal of charges by them.

Its pretty clear that they did this as a standard operating procedure. The reps acted as though this was a common occurance and quickly admitted the error.

SBC has now lost our regular phone account and all possibility of us buying future broadband from them.

:p




 

AndrewR

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Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
Every year we go through the same little song and dance. SBC informs me that 1) my DSL contract is about to expire and 2) if I do nothing SBC will start charging me 2x for the same service that I have been receiving for the last 12 months.

Easy right? I just call em up and say don't start charging me extra! Of course it would be even easier if they would just extend the same terms for another 12 months, but I guess that isn't tapping into the add-on fees and charges market aggressively enough.

Instead, SBC goes to great lengths to make sure that there are the little speed bumps along the way.

Last year they insisted that all this information should be sent to me through the email address they gave us with the account. Not a bad idea I suppose considering that I have never ever used that email account and you'll get at least one inflated billing cycle out of me before I catch on that my rate has doubled. I called and bitched at them. They removed the charges, and I renewed my contract. A big waste of time for me and their call center, but in the end contentedness was had.

This year, I guess there were enough complaints about the whole email correspondence thing. This year, they sent me an actual letter informing me that the year is almost up and that I should go to a web site where I can conviently go to and renew my contract. They obviously put a lot of work into it as its pretty and well designed. However, I can't help but notice that there is no discontinue option. I can either 1) renew at a given rate (slightly more than I am paying now) or 2) not renew and start paying month to month at 3 times the rate I am paying now. How about and third option for telling SBC that I am sick of this little dance?

SBC, you're fired.

Oh, fun -- SBC rant thread! I signed on for their low cost DSL service (actually pro option for $25/month), and it hasn't worked. The modem cuts out after about 10 minutes, and you have to reboot everything to renew the connection. Oh, and while it's connected, it gradually gets slower and slower. Checked and double checked everything then submitted a trouble ticket.

That was 2-3 weeks ago, and there's been nothing. I don't have the time to screw around with these idiots and their useless Indian call center. Going to cancel and stick with my current provider. If they try to dick me around, I'll just cancel the home phone service altogether and use the cell. Not going to play that game.
 

Pliablemoose

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Sigh, SBC is great as long as they don't fvck with my service.

Every time I've changed anything, it's been a major screw up and hours on the phone to straighten it out.
 
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Originally posted by: AndrewR

Oh, fun -- SBC rant thread! I signed on for their low cost DSL service (actually pro option for $25/month), and it hasn't worked. The modem cuts out after about 10 minutes, and you have to reboot everything to renew the connection. Oh, and while it's connected, it gradually gets slower and slower. Checked and double checked everything then submitted a trouble ticket.

That was 2-3 weeks ago, and there's been nothing. I don't have the time to screw around with these idiots and their useless Indian call center. Going to cancel and stick with my current provider. If they try to dick me around, I'll just cancel the home phone service altogether and use the cell. Not going to play that game.

that sucks man....

I've been happy with the quality of service provide. Very few outages (i think 2 over a 3 year period or so) and decent speeds. Its just their insistance to punish renewing customers that has me baffled.... how can they think this is a good idea? I'll live for a while without DSL and if I decide to get broadband again, I look at other providers.
 

fenrir

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I have never had an issue with renewing. Of course, I usually deal with the techs over at DSLreports.com instead of their call centers. :D

Matt
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: fenrir
I have never had an issue with renewing. Of course, I usually deal with the techs over at DSLreports.com instead of their call centers. :D

Matt


Yep, I always think of them after I've hosed things by changing my service...
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: AndrewRI don't have the time to screw around with these idiots and their useless Indian call center.

"Durka durka mohammad jihad durka durka, durka durka George. Can I durka you?"
 

Leper Messiah

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I hate to say this, but....Comcast FTW! Seriously, they are the only two providers in my area, and Cable>DSL.
 

sswingle

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Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
I hate to say this, but....Comcast FTW! Seriously, they are the only two providers in my area, and Cable>DSL.

Time Warner for the bigger win! I dont know if their tech support sucks or not because I never need to call them for anything.
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
update at the top.

i can't believe they have such ****** account practices.

I've had SBC for ~ a decade & they've never made an error in my favor either, I'm talking about 20 or so billing errors over the years , funny about that, huh?
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
update at the top.

i can't believe they have such ****** account practices.

I've had SBC for ~ a decade & they've never made an error in my favor either, I'm talking about 20 or so billing errors over the years , funny about that, huh?

Same here... never had a problem. Had them for nearly 20 years too. Oh, and if I want to lock in pricing, I just call and renew my contract. No problem.
 

oboeguy

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Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
I hate to say this, but....Comcast FTW! Seriously, they are the only two providers in my area, and Cable>DSL.

Time Warner for the bigger win! I dont know if their tech support sucks or not because I never need to call them for anything.

It sucks. I had a problem and it took a few calls to eventually get a tech here (several days later) to replace the modem. Bleah.
 

Toasthead

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Ive been using them for 4 years now with no issues...cant beat DSL for 15 bucks a month
 

FelixDeCat

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Ah the early days of DSL.......back in June of 2000 I moved from an apartment that I had SBC install DSL from the initial roll out.

At my new place I had DSL installed. Even though I cancelled the service before I moved they continued to double bill me for two dsl lines for six months while I was transferred all around the country - INCLUDING CANADA AND INDIA :|. I spent about SIXTY HOURS on the phone all together fighting with them while the unpaid amounts grew and grew. I was looking at an $800 phone bill towards the end.

Finally after spending the usual two hours on hold, being transferred, reexplaining the story from scratch for the 9,000,000,000th time, someone had "mercy" on me and wrote the bill down by $750. But she warned me that they could come back later and readd it at anytime. Six years later no such luck. But Im thinking, "WTF - Youre making me pay for two lines when I only have one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You damn, dirty, good for nothing bastages! Ive spent sixty mother fsking hours going round and round with you guys and you finally have 'mercy' on me!!!??!?!@?!?!!! You might readd the charges??!?!?#$?!?!@?!~?@!~!!@@@@##"

Im mad just thinking about it again.
 
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Ah the early days of DSL.......back in June of 2000 I moved from an apartment that I had SBC install DSL from the initial roll out.

At my new place I had DSL installed. Even though I cancelled the service before I moved they continued to double bill me for two dsl lines for six months while I was transferred all around the country - INCLUDING CANADA AND INDIA :|. I spent about SIXTY HOURS on the phone all together fighting with them while the unpaid amounts grew and grew. I was looking at an $800 phone bill towards the end.

Finally after spending the usual two hours on hold, being transferred, reexplaining the story from scratch for the 9,000,000,000th time, someone had "mercy" on me and wrote the bill down by $750. But she warned me that they could come back later and readd it at anytime. Six years later no such luck. But Im thinking, "WTF - Youre making me pay for two lines when I only have one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You damn, dirty, good for nothing bastages! Ive spent sixty mother fsking hours going round and round with you guys and you finally have 'mercy' on me!!!??!?!@?!?!!! You might readd the charges??!?!?#$?!?!@?!~?@!~!!@@@@##"

Im mad just thinking about it again.

wowow. guess i'm lucky compared to you. :Q
 

PhaZe

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I'm paying 49.99 for 6mbs/768kbps for SBC DSL.

No other company can beat that in my area.