Dean wants to cut military pensions?

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

AND raise the retirement age to 70...sorry, seniors, time to get back to work!




Mr. Russert: In 1995?you were asked how would you balance the budget?. "The way to balance the budget, [Gov. Howard] Dean said, is for Congress to cut Social Security, move the retirement age to 70, cut defense, Medicare and veterans pensions, while the states cut almost everything else. 'It would be tough but we could do it,' he said."

 

[SuperTool]

And your answer to the coming social security crisis is: _________________________
Please, John Galt, fill in the blank with your wisdom instead of scaring seniors.

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
And your answer to the coming social security crisis is: _________________________
Please, John Galt, fill in the blank with your wisdom instead of scaring seniors.

end welfare, wic, foodstamps, and most other government handouts

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: SuperTool
And your answer to the coming social security crisis is: _________________________
Please, John Galt, fill in the blank with your wisdom instead of scaring seniors.

end welfare, wic, foodstamps, and most other government handouts

Yep, we mustn't promote laziness.

 

[burnedout]

Cutting my or any other veteran's pension is the wrong answer. The military retirement programs have already been jacked with enough over the past 20 years. I refuse to support any idiot advocating such measures.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
AND raise the retirement age to 70...sorry, seniors, time to get back to work!




Mr. Russert: In 1995?you were asked how would you balance the budget?. "The way to balance the budget, [Gov. Howard] Dean said, is for Congress to cut Social Security, move the retirement age to 70, cut defense, Medicare and veterans pensions, while the states cut almost everything else. 'It would be tough but we could do it,' he said."

But...but...but..."I have never favored a Social Security retirement age of 70 nor do I favor one of 68."


CkG

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: SuperTool
And your answer to the coming social security crisis is: _________________________
Please, John Galt, fill in the blank with your wisdom instead of scaring seniors.

end welfare, wic, foodstamps, and most other government handouts

Please specify a program you want to cut, how much it will save, and what fraction of the social security hole that will cover.
Also, what do you plan to do with children currently on welfare or foodstamps who won't be getting their food? Or are you assuming 100% employment in your suggestion.

 

[Czar]

just curious, didnt bush do something like that a few months/weeks ago?

 

[Red Dawn]

Hey go ahead and cut SS, just give me back every penny I've put into ot!

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
And your answer to the coming social security crisis is: _________________________
Please, John Galt, fill in the blank with your wisdom instead of scaring seniors.

I am not running for office, he is. Scaring seniors? You must have missed the latest rally where Sen. Kennedy pulled out his pom-poms and swore the recently passed prescription drug bill would hurt everyone over 65 in America...talk about the typical scare tactics.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: SuperTool
And your answer to the coming social security crisis is: _________________________
Please, John Galt, fill in the blank with your wisdom instead of scaring seniors.

end welfare, wic, foodstamps, and most other government handouts

Foodstamps as a part of the budget is a pitance. Cutting it would serve to reduce government spending an insigificant amount even when added to other expenses. On the other hand Foodstamps benefit children to the largest extent with the DOA estimating nearly 60% of the money spent on food stamps goes directly to feeding children under the age of 18.

No one should ever go hungry in this country, and especially not children who did not pick their place or station in life and are helpless to change that station.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey go ahead and cut SS, just give me back every penny I've put into ot!

It'll be a lot less than you would get otherwise. Age should be increased and there should be means testing.

You boomers are in for a shock when Gen X gets control and takes away your benefits because you spent them when your generation was in charge.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey go ahead and cut SS, just give me back every penny I've put into ot!

Wow, hell has frozen over

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: SuperTool
And your answer to the coming social security crisis is: _________________________
Please, John Galt, fill in the blank with your wisdom instead of scaring seniors.

I am not running for office, he is. Scaring seniors? You must have missed the latest rally where Sen. Kennedy pulled out his pom-poms and swore the recently passed prescription drug bill would hurt everyone over 65 in America...talk about the typical scare tactics.

So you have no plan. Yet you bash raising retirement age to 70. With life expectancy heading beyond 80 we cannot support an average senior for 15+ years, especially with the baby boomers retiring, unless you have another plan. It's perfectly reasonable that retirement age scales with the average life expectancy.

 

[EagleKeeper]

We can cut political pensions:beer:

 

[Ferocious]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
AND raise the retirement age to 70...sorry, seniors, time to get back to work!




Mr. Russert: In 1995?you were asked how would you balance the budget?. "The way to balance the budget, [Gov. Howard] Dean said, is for Congress to cut Social Security, move the retirement age to 70, cut defense, Medicare and veterans pensions, while the states cut almost everything else. 'It would be tough but we could do it,' he said."

Looks like he's trying to attract some Republican voters.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Ferocious

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
AND raise the retirement age to 70...sorry, seniors, time to get back to work!




Mr. Russert: In 1995?you were asked how would you balance the budget?. "The way to balance the budget, [Gov. Howard] Dean said, is for Congress to cut Social Security, move the retirement age to 70, cut defense, Medicare and veterans pensions, while the states cut almost everything else. 'It would be tough but we could do it,' he said."

Looks like he's trying to attract some Republican voters.

Yeah, too bad he supposedly "Never" favored it.

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
But...but...but..."I have never favored a Social Security retirement age of 70 nor do I favor one of 68."


CkG

Oh, well - guess I can't vote for him now

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

dp

 

[CADsortaGUY]

I guess I really meant it

dasm tp

CkG

 

[outriding]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: SuperTool
And your answer to the coming social security crisis is: _________________________
Please, John Galt, fill in the blank with your wisdom instead of scaring seniors.

end welfare, wic, foodstamps, and most other government handouts

Foodstamps as a part of the budget is a pitance. Cutting it would serve to reduce government spending an insigificant amount even when added to other expenses. On the other hand Foodstamps benefit children to the largest extent with the DOA estimating nearly 60% of the money spent on food stamps goes directly to feeding children under the age of 18.

No one should ever go hungry in this country, and especially not children who did not pick their place or station in life and are helpless to change that station.

Well said.

everybody thinks that the goverment gives out alot of handouts.

It really isnt the case.



http://www.govbenefits.gov/goStateBenefitPrograms.do#startsWith:A

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey go ahead and cut SS, just give me back every penny I've put into ot!

It'll be a lot less than you would get otherwise.

Hey let me worry about that

Age should be increased and there should be means testing.

You boomers are in for a shock when Gen X gets control and takes away your benefits because you spent them when your generation was in charge.

Yeah right, not if they want to be elected. There will be many more of us than them and we actually get out and vote!

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

My plan would be let younger people, like myself and RedDawn, to opt out...that's my plan. I am not a fan of having elderly people, who should be enjoying their golden years on the golf course, sitting around the office being less productive than the 20-30-somethings. 65 is pushing it in some cases, but 70? What a reward for a lifetime of work. Thanks, Dean.

 

[Crazee]

I find it interesting that you quote a quote of Russert quoting Howard Dean from 1995 and you didn't put his response to the question down. Were you trying to mislead people here?

MR. RUSSERT: ...calling for that, and this is what Howard Dean said. "The way to balance the budget, [Gov. Howard] Dean said, is for Congress to cut Social Security, move the retirement age to 70, cut defense, Medicare and veterans pensions, while the states cut almost everything else. 'It would be tough but we could do it,' he said."

DR. DEAN: Well, we fortunately don't have to do that now.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Crazee
I find it interesting that you quote a quote of Russert quoting Howard Dean from 1995 and you didn't put his response to the question down. Were you trying to mislead people here?

MR. RUSSERT: ...calling for that, and this is what Howard Dean said. "The way to balance the budget, [Gov. Howard] Dean said, is for Congress to cut Social Security, move the retirement age to 70, cut defense, Medicare and veterans pensions, while the states cut almost everything else. 'It would be tough but we could do it,' he said."

DR. DEAN: Well, we fortunately don't have to do that now.

Funny, I can't seem to find that particular line...did a <ctrl-f> (find) for "fortunately" and that yielded nothing...little help?

 

[Crazee]

Try google and you can get the transcript instead of an article taking a quote out of context.