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Jassi

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: makoto00
i love some of the soliloquies in this show, especially farnum's and swearengen's. hilarious.

I agree. They're absolutely fantastic.

Although morbid, I enjoyed Al's conversations with the Chief's head.
 

ubercaffeinated

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Originally posted by: Jassi
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: makoto00
i love some of the soliloquies in this show, especially farnum's and swearengen's. hilarious.

I agree. They're absolutely fantastic.

Although morbid, I enjoyed Al's conversations with the Chief's head.


Quite Shakespearean. I loved those scenes. And poor Dan thinking to himself wtfux! Grand.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: jacktackle
Originally posted by: tjaisv
Anybody else have a hard time understanding the dialogue? It's like Shakespeare or something, all the grandstanding and odd verbiage. I like it, but i could sure use a translator sometimes lol.

Yeah i almost never know what the hell is going on in the show :p, though that's true for many shows/movies. I'm not sure if it's because of the dialogue or if the writers just want us to guess at what's going on with the plot.


heh i have processing lag with the show as my brain decodes the dialog slightly slower than realtime:p
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: makoto00
Originally posted by: Jassi
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: makoto00
i love some of the soliloquies in this show, especially farnum's and swearengen's. hilarious.

I agree. They're absolutely fantastic.

Although morbid, I enjoyed Al's conversations with the Chief's head.


Quite Shakespearean. I loved those scenes. And poor Dan thinking to himself wtfux! Grand.


More Shakespearean than anyone but a real Bard fan would recognize. If you break down Al's soliloquies most of them are done in Iambic pentameter.
 

fustercluck

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I feel like i missed an episode, but i don't think i did. Why was Bullock gone this episode? Why was Hearst all pissed at Farnum (whom is one of the best characters :p )? It's hard to figure out everything going on in this show, that's how they want it to be though i guess.
 

Sphexi

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Oh HELL no, they just killed off one of my favorite characters :(...the sh1t is gonna hit the fan mighty quickly.
 

Sphexi

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Next week final episode ever. I wonder how they plan to end it all?

Until the two 2-hour specials (I think they're still in the works). Personally I'd like to see a giant bloodbath, with Al and Bullock just raining down the hurt.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Sphexi
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Next week final episode ever. I wonder how they plan to end it all?

Until the two 2-hour specials (I think they're still in the works). Personally I'd like to see a giant bloodbath, with Al and Bullock just raining down the hurt.
There are going to be two 2 hour specials?? How cool is that?

 

Sphexi

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Sphexi
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Next week final episode ever. I wonder how they plan to end it all?

Until the two 2-hour specials (I think they're still in the works). Personally I'd like to see a giant bloodbath, with Al and Bullock just raining down the hurt.
There are going to be two 2 hour specials?? How cool is that?

That's what I heard, just to wrap it all up. Certainly doesn't seem that another 50 minutes will be enough, considering everything that happened in just this episode :)
 

Reckoner

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Jun 11, 2004
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Yes, 2 2-hour specials.

Just watched Sunday's episode-it was awesome, just like this season has been. I've enjoyed this season of Deadwood greater than Season 1.
 

iwearnosox

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Originally posted by: Adaman
I feel like i missed an episode, but i don't think i did. Why was Bullock gone this episode? Why was Hearst all pissed at Farnum (whom is one of the best characters :p )? It's hard to figure out everything going on in this show, that's how they want it to be though i guess.

Hearst preys on the weak. At a moment of frustration in his other "goings on" he just took it out on Farnum to get his dose of control.

I have a harder time with Al- who killed Alma Garret's first husband after selling him land he thought was worthless but is now a "humanitarian" to her. It seems inconsitent to me.

Joanie Stubbs- Was she a lesbo all along or was that just done for shock value? I never did see chemistry with her and Jane.

 

Eos

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Originally posted by: tjaisv
Anybody else have a hard time understanding the dialogue? It's like Shakespeare or something, all the grandstanding and odd verbiage. I like it, but i could sure use a translator sometimes lol.

I end up rewinding and watching scenes a second and third time to comprehend the dialogue.
 

Reckoner

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Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: Adaman
I feel like i missed an episode, but i don't think i did. Why was Bullock gone this episode? Why was Hearst all pissed at Farnum (whom is one of the best characters :p )? It's hard to figure out everything going on in this show, that's how they want it to be though i guess.

Hearst preys on the weak. At a moment of frustration in his other "goings on" he just took it out on Farnum to get his dose of control.

I have a harder time with Al- who killed Alma Garret's first husband after selling him land he thought was worthless but is now a "humanitarian" to her. It seems inconsitent to me.

Joanie Stubbs- Was she a lesbo all along or was that just done for shock value? I never did see chemistry with her and Jane.

Al would rather see Alma in control of the land than Hearst.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: Adaman
I feel like i missed an episode, but i don't think i did. Why was Bullock gone this episode? Why was Hearst all pissed at Farnum (whom is one of the best characters :p )? It's hard to figure out everything going on in this show, that's how they want it to be though i guess.

Hearst preys on the weak. At a moment of frustration in his other "goings on" he just took it out on Farnum to get his dose of control.

I have a harder time with Al- who killed Alma Garret's first husband after selling him land he thought was worthless but is now a "humanitarian" to her. It seems inconsitent to me.

Joanie Stubbs- Was she a lesbo all along or was that just done for shock value? I never did see chemistry with her and Jane.

Al would rather see Alma in control of the land than Hearst.

Yep, plus he now clearly has a strong personal dislike (to put it mildly) for Hearst.
If the Garret claim falls to Hearst so does the rest of the town and Al.


 

iwearnosox

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: Adaman
I feel like i missed an episode, but i don't think i did. Why was Bullock gone this episode? Why was Hearst all pissed at Farnum (whom is one of the best characters :p )? It's hard to figure out everything going on in this show, that's how they want it to be though i guess.

Hearst preys on the weak. At a moment of frustration in his other "goings on" he just took it out on Farnum to get his dose of control.

I have a harder time with Al- who killed Alma Garret's first husband after selling him land he thought was worthless but is now a "humanitarian" to her. It seems inconsitent to me.

Joanie Stubbs- Was she a lesbo all along or was that just done for shock value? I never did see chemistry with her and Jane.

Al would rather see Alma in control of the land than Hearst.

Yep, plus he now clearly has a strong personal dislike (to put it mildly) for Hearst.
If the Garret claim falls to Hearst so does the rest of the town and Al.


Yes but I don't understand why she puts up with him knowing he killed her husband.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: Adaman
I feel like i missed an episode, but i don't think i did. Why was Bullock gone this episode? Why was Hearst all pissed at Farnum (whom is one of the best characters :p )? It's hard to figure out everything going on in this show, that's how they want it to be though i guess.

Hearst preys on the weak. At a moment of frustration in his other "goings on" he just took it out on Farnum to get his dose of control.

I have a harder time with Al- who killed Alma Garret's first husband after selling him land he thought was worthless but is now a "humanitarian" to her. It seems inconsitent to me.

Joanie Stubbs- Was she a lesbo all along or was that just done for shock value? I never did see chemistry with her and Jane.

Al would rather see Alma in control of the land than Hearst.

Yep, plus he now clearly has a strong personal dislike (to put it mildly) for Hearst.
If the Garret claim falls to Hearst so does the rest of the town and Al.


Yes but I don't understand why she puts up with him knowing he killed her husband.

What are her choices?

She wants to continue to own/operate the claim and live in the camp. The only way to do that with Hearst there is to align herself with Al. IIRC, her marriage to Brom was more of convenience than anything else as well.

It is clear that the brutality of Hearst's methods have quailed everyone, even Al (who we know is not completely heartless no matter how well he tries to hide it). The scene where the wagon rolled by and Cy Tolliver saw it was quite something. For a man who has so very little in the way of redeeming character (much less than Al) to be so moved/angered (and maybe fearful) as to have to vent his emtotions against those at hand to provide some relief was amazing.
 

Reckoner

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Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: Adaman
I feel like i missed an episode, but i don't think i did. Why was Bullock gone this episode? Why was Hearst all pissed at Farnum (whom is one of the best characters :p )? It's hard to figure out everything going on in this show, that's how they want it to be though i guess.

Hearst preys on the weak. At a moment of frustration in his other "goings on" he just took it out on Farnum to get his dose of control.

I have a harder time with Al- who killed Alma Garret's first husband after selling him land he thought was worthless but is now a "humanitarian" to her. It seems inconsitent to me.

Joanie Stubbs- Was she a lesbo all along or was that just done for shock value? I never did see chemistry with her and Jane.

Al would rather see Alma in control of the land than Hearst.

Yep, plus he now clearly has a strong personal dislike (to put it mildly) for Hearst.
If the Garret claim falls to Hearst so does the rest of the town and Al.


Yes but I don't understand why she puts up with him knowing he killed her husband.

What are her choices?

She wants to continue to own/operate the claim and live in the camp. The only way to do that with Hearst there is to align herself with Al. IIRC, her marriage to Brom was more of convenience than anything else as well.

It is clear that the brutality of Hearst's methods have quailed everyone, even Al (who we know is not completely heartless no matter how well he tries to hide it). The scene where the wagon rolled by and Cy Tolliver saw it was quite something. For a man who has so very little in the way of redeeming character (much less than Al) to be so moved/angered (and maybe fearful) as to have to vent his emtotions against those at hand to provide some relief was amazing.


Yep. I think in a way she was relieved what happened to her first husband. In the end, I think we'll see a beautifully crafted plan involving Cy and Al and that theatre guy.
 

Descartes

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I think Farnum's little soliloquies are becoming my favorite. His comment about "removing his expectoration from my cheek" was great.

Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: Adaman
I feel like i missed an episode, but i don't think i did. Why was Bullock gone this episode? Why was Hearst all pissed at Farnum (whom is one of the best characters :p )? It's hard to figure out everything going on in this show, that's how they want it to be though i guess.

Hearst preys on the weak. At a moment of frustration in his other "goings on" he just took it out on Farnum to get his dose of control.

I have a harder time with Al- who killed Alma Garret's first husband after selling him land he thought was worthless but is now a "humanitarian" to her. It seems inconsitent to me.

Joanie Stubbs- Was she a lesbo all along or was that just done for shock value? I never did see chemistry with her and Jane.

Al would rather see Alma in control of the land than Hearst.

Yep, plus he now clearly has a strong personal dislike (to put it mildly) for Hearst.
If the Garret claim falls to Hearst so does the rest of the town and Al.


Yes but I don't understand why she puts up with him knowing he killed her husband.

What are her choices?

She wants to continue to own/operate the claim and live in the camp. The only way to do that with Hearst there is to align herself with Al. IIRC, her marriage to Brom was more of convenience than anything else as well.

It is clear that the brutality of Hearst's methods have quailed everyone, even Al (who we know is not completely heartless no matter how well he tries to hide it). The scene where the wagon rolled by and Cy Tolliver saw it was quite something. For a man who has so very little in the way of redeeming character (much less than Al) to be so moved/angered (and maybe fearful) as to have to vent his emtotions against those at hand to provide some relief was amazing.

Great assessment. I found it curious that Cy was so angry. Was he angry about Ellsworth or about the state of the camp? I don't remember Cy interacting much with Ellsworth, but I might be forgetting some things.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Descartes
I think Farnum's little soliloquies are becoming my favorite. His comment about "removing his expectoration from my cheeck" was great.

Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: Adaman
I feel like i missed an episode, but i don't think i did. Why was Bullock gone this episode? Why was Hearst all pissed at Farnum (whom is one of the best characters :p )? It's hard to figure out everything going on in this show, that's how they want it to be though i guess.

Hearst preys on the weak. At a moment of frustration in his other "goings on" he just took it out on Farnum to get his dose of control.

I have a harder time with Al- who killed Alma Garret's first husband after selling him land he thought was worthless but is now a "humanitarian" to her. It seems inconsitent to me.

Joanie Stubbs- Was she a lesbo all along or was that just done for shock value? I never did see chemistry with her and Jane.

Al would rather see Alma in control of the land than Hearst.

Yep, plus he now clearly has a strong personal dislike (to put it mildly) for Hearst.
If the Garret claim falls to Hearst so does the rest of the town and Al.


Yes but I don't understand why she puts up with him knowing he killed her husband.

What are her choices?

She wants to continue to own/operate the claim and live in the camp. The only way to do that with Hearst there is to align herself with Al. IIRC, her marriage to Brom was more of convenience than anything else as well.

It is clear that the brutality of Hearst's methods have quailed everyone, even Al (who we know is not completely heartless no matter how well he tries to hide it). The scene where the wagon rolled by and Cy Tolliver saw it was quite something. For a man who has so very little in the way of redeeming character (much less than Al) to be so moved/angered (and maybe fearful) as to have to vent his emtotions against those at hand to provide some relief was amazing.

Great assessment. I found it curious that Cy was so angry. Was he angry about Ellsworth or about the state of the camp? I don't remember Cy interacting much with Ellsworth, but I might be forgetting some things.

He didn't have a lot on interaction with Ellsworth (whom everyone seemed to like quite a bit), but he had no ill will against him. I think it is what Ellsworth?s murder so vividly illustrated: the fact that they all are dispensable merely at Hearst's will or whim (especially Cy given his involvement with Hearst). Cy feels weak/powerless and it is driving him crazy with fear/anger.


Also, did you see the look he gave Langrishe in the hall? Jesus! I would been sitting up in my room with a pistol in my hand and a chair propped against the doorhandle for a week.
 

fustercluck

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Originally posted by: K1052
Also, did you see the look he gave Langrishe in the hall? Jesus! I would been sitting up in my room with a pistol in my hand and a chair propped against the doorhandle for a week.

It was in the description of the show that "Hearst and Langrishe have a falling out". I figured it would be something more then that little awkward moment the way it was described and featured in the description (which is always pretty short). Maybe it will unfold more next week. Brian Cox is great as always by the way.