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Dead Voters May Decide Election 11-1-04

dmcowen674

No Lifer
11-1-2004 Votes From the Dead May Still Be Counted

RALEIGH, N.C. - An untold number of ballots from people who have died since casting them will be counted this year because of the haphazard and cumbersome process of enforcing laws in many states to weed out these votes.

With millions of voters taking advantage of new, in-person early voting in at least 30 states this year, it's even more likely that such "ghost" votes will be counted because, in most cases, those ballots are impossible to retrieve. Besides, it could be days or weeks after the election before local officials get word someone has died.

Earlier this month, in what would be her last conscious act, 90-year-old Trixie Porter gripped a pen in her weak, trembling hand, checked the candidates of her choice and scrawled a squiggled signature on her absentee ballot.

Within an hour, the petite woman who had been suffering from heart problems lay back in her hospital bed, closed her eyes and never woke up. Her ballot arrived at her local elections board two days later, Oct. 5 ? the day she died.

In Florida alone, more than 1.8 million people, many of them elderly and sick retirees, have cast absentee ballots or voted early in person in the past two weeks.

Considering that an average of 455 voting-age people die in Florida every day, and that the 2000 presidential election was decided by a mere 537 votes, dead votes that slip through the cracks could become a meaningful bloc

Cheryl McConnell won't say how her mother voted before she died, but she made a copy of the ballot to keep.

As for the real absentee ballot, election officials hadn't pulled it because the family had yet to notify them of her death. McConnell says she's in no hurry.

 
I can't wait for the commericals

"Globe's life insureance plan....not only do you get money for funeral costs but we'll personally make sure your votes are counted"
 
That is better than having more people vote for a dead man than for you... like what happened to John Ashcroft 🙂
 
It's like "Black Sheep" all over again. We need Chris Farley to uncover the fraud so his brother can get elected. But I understand your point, all the more reason to vote, but only if you vote Bush! 😉
 
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
thats strange I thought deceased absentee votes still counted?

Sure seems like there shouldn't be any problem with it... they exercised their right to vote while they were still alive.
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Sure seems like there shouldn't be any problem with it... they exercised their right to vote while they were still alive.
The problem is that a very significant number of those were filled out by children and not the dead/dying parent. An absentee ballot filled out after death is the biggest possible problem.

 
Who cares? Bush, Kerry or Other, these people made a choice while alive and their voice still deserves to be heard.
 
They cast their vote properly.

The problem is when dead people cast their vote after they were deceased.
 
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
They cast their vote properly.

The problem is when dead people cast their vote after they were deceased.

no they didn't. Polling is on Nov 2, how can you cast a vote in a Nov 2 election if your dead on Oct 20th Absentee ballots assume that you are eligible to vote in that election. If you die before the election then your ballot becomes void because dead people aren't eligible to vote.:roll:
 
Chicago has had this for years...hell, people that have been dead for 20 years or more are probably still voting for daley.
 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: dahunan
Sure seems like there shouldn't be any problem with it... they exercised their right to vote while they were still alive.
The problem is that a very significant number of those were filled out by children and not the dead/dying parent. An absentee ballot filled out after death is the biggest possible problem.

Don't they try to match their signiture with their registration card to prevent that from happening?
 
Originally posted by: NesuD
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
They cast their vote properly.

The problem is when dead people cast their vote after they were deceased.

no they didn't. Polling is on Nov 2, how can you cast a vote in a Nov 2 election if your dead on Oct 20th Absentee ballots assume that you are eligible to vote in that election. If you die before the election then your ballot becomes void because dead people aren't eligible to vote.:roll:

Can anyone point out if this is correct??? Law?
 
Bullsh!t...

What if a soldier dies while his absentee ballot is on its way to America.. oops.. too bad?? his/her vote doesn't count?? Geez.. some people.

Some people are just freaking lost when it comes to reality... How in the hell can you take away their right to vote after they are dead... This country is not that screwed up yet.

 
Originally posted by: xenolith
Don't they try to match their signiture with their registration card to prevent that from happening?
I think a signature that will pass 99.99% of people is very simple to forge. It isn't like handwriting experts will be called in to double check every single absentee ballot.

 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Bullsh!t...

What if a soldier dies while his absentee ballot is on its way to America.. oops.. too bad?? his/her vote doesn't count?? Geez.. some people.

Some people are just freaking lost when it comes to reality... How in the hell can you take away their right to vote after they are dead... This country is not that screwed up yet.

Screwed up?

What's your 'statute of limitations' on this one?

Can I vote in one election after I'm dead? Two? What if I put in my will that I vote Liberal forever, no matter what?

There's only one obvious dead-line (pun definitely intended). If you're dead on election day, and this can be determined, your vote should not count, whether it was cast 'absentee' or through an early poll.
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: dahunan
Bullsh!t...

What if a soldier dies while his absentee ballot is on its way to America.. oops.. too bad?? his/her vote doesn't count?? Geez.. some people.

Some people are just freaking lost when it comes to reality... How in the hell can you take away their right to vote after they are dead... This country is not that screwed up yet.

Screwed up?

What's your 'statute of limitations' on this one?

Can I vote in one election after I'm dead? Two? What if I put in my will that I vote Liberal forever, no matter what?

There's only one obvious dead-line (pun definitely intended). If you're dead on election day, and this can be determined, your vote should not count, whether it was cast 'absentee' or through an early poll.


They voted WHILE THEY WERE ALIVE and LEGALLY.



Isn't that obvious?
 
Wow.. some people are really cold... real COLD.

Their vote was cast while they were alive.. DO YOU THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO SCREW THE SYSTEM - by pulling some mean trick and dying before the specific election date?

Amazing
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Bullsh!t...

What if a soldier dies while his absentee ballot is on its way to America.. oops.. too bad?? his/her vote doesn't count?? Geez.. some people.

Some people are just freaking lost when it comes to reality... How in the hell can you take away their right to vote after they are dead... This country is not that screwed up yet.

For some reason I think the vote will be one of the least of the worries that a dead soldiers would have. Why should dead people get to chose who leads a country when they are no longer with us.
 
Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: dahunan
Bullsh!t...

What if a soldier dies while his absentee ballot is on its way to America.. oops.. too bad?? his/her vote doesn't count?? Geez.. some people.

Some people are just freaking lost when it comes to reality... How in the hell can you take away their right to vote after they are dead... This country is not that screwed up yet.

For some reason I think the vote will be one of the least of the worries that a dead soldiers would have. Why should dead people get to chose who leads a country when they are no longer with us.



Why should a Will mean anything after the person is dead?
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Wow.. some people are really cold... real COLD.

Their vote was cast while they were alive.. DO YOU THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO SCREW THE SYSTEM - by pulling some mean trick and dying before the specific election date?

Amazing

They aren't trying to screw the system, but they DIDN'T VOTE. THey made their intentions clear, through a recognized system - but the vote doesn't count until election day.

Dead is dead, and alive is alive - if you aren't alive the minute polls open on election day, it is impossible for you to vote!
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: dahunan
Wow.. some people are really cold... real COLD.

Their vote was cast while they were alive.. DO YOU THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO SCREW THE SYSTEM - by pulling some mean trick and dying before the specific election date?

Amazing

They aren't trying to screw the system, but they DIDN'T VOTE. THey made their intentions clear, through a recognized system - but the vote doesn't count until election day.

Dead is dead, and alive is alive - if you aren't alive the minute polls open on election day, it is impossible for you to vote!



You are a Republican, right?
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: dahunan
You are a Republican, right?
You have got to be kidding.

😀 I apologize..

I just feel very strongly that if a person mails in their vote during the legal time period to mail it in but dies before the election date that it should be counted. They were an American Citizen when they cast that vote.

I will have to politely agree to disagree 😉
 
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