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Zap said:
I bought a set a while back for my ITX rig. Mixed results, because the crappy Zotac motherboard doesn't allow me to make changes in BIOS, and with this RAM will sometimes hang on POST, then think it failed overclocking. Really funny, because the motherboard doesn't support overclocking.



It will also fit under any heatsink. :thumbsup:
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Nice ITX rig - saw your thread a while back and it gave me some ideas. I thought long and hard about the Antec ISK but decided on the slightly taller In Win IW-BP655 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811108196) because it was cheaper, uses a standard DVD drive and 3.5" hard drive (parts I had), and seemed a bit easier to work in despite actually being a bit shallower. The only big problem with it is that it's basically useless if you intend to use a PCIe graphics card as you did, because unlike the ISK, it has no vents below the low-profile slot. Alas, I'm going to use onboard for this puppy, so it was ok.

My setup is very similar otherwise - 2500k, Samsung 30nm memory, and an SSD (x-25m + WD Caviar 640GB). I got an AsRock H77 ITX board that at least allowed me to dial in the memory timings/voltage, despite no overclocking options.

Putting the finishing touches on it this weekend...
 
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Not wanting to spoil the party, but do any of you really perceive a performance boost in application usage and/or games when running these beyond the 1600 spec?

I am an enthusiast too. So, don't get me wrong, I understand the desire to get the most out of hardware. I also realize there are plenty of reasons to buy this RAM even if not overclocking.

I am genuinely interested in knowing what the user experience is like when going beyond DDR3 1600. Is there a perceptible difference in anything you use your computer for?

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Maybe the glory is in how far it allows you to overclock your CPU, in which case I am certain the user will notice the difference.
 
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Wedge1 said:
Not wanting to spoil the party, but do any of you really perceive a performance boost in application usage and/or games when running these beyond the 1600 spec?

I am an enthusiast too. So, don't get me wrong, I understand the desire to get the most out of hardware. I also realize there are plenty of reasons to buy this RAM even if not overclocking.

I am genuinely interested in knowing what the user experience is like when going beyond DDR3 1600. Is there a perceptible difference in anything you use your computer for?

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Maybe the glory is in how far it allows you to overclock your CPU, in which case I am certain the user will notice the difference.
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It can have a significant effect in some applications: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/ivy-bridge-ddr3_4.html#sect0

More importantly, at $40, this memory is among the cheapest sets available anywhere, while also allowing those who are interested to get some of the best performance possible. There is no way you lose buying this memory.
 
That's a great link, thank you. I like the last paragraph:

"We must admit that gaming applications differ somewhat in this respect. Memory subsystem performance has a larger effect on them. By preferring high-bandwidth DDR3 SDRAM for your Ivy Bridge platform, you can get an additional 5-10% in terms of frame rate. You don’t always achieve this even by installing a faster CPU!"
 
Wedge1 said:
That's a great link, thank you. I like the last paragraph:

"We must admit that gaming applications differ somewhat in this respect. Memory subsystem performance has a larger effect on them. By preferring high-bandwidth DDR3 SDRAM for your Ivy Bridge platform, you can get an additional 5-10% in terms of frame rate. You don’t always achieve this even by installing a faster CPU!"
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/agree

The biggest bump I see in faster ram, besides benchmarking (of course), is in high-demand gaming. With 2-day free shipping from Shoprunner I should have these by tomorrow night, but I probably won't get around to fiddling with timings and voltages for another couple of weeks. I'll report back here or start a new thread in the H&T forum.
 
Termie said:
Nice ITX rig - saw your thread a while back and it gave me some ideas. I thought long and hard about the Antec ISK but decided on the slightly taller In Win IW-BP655 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811108196) because it was cheaper, uses a standard DVD drive and 3.5" hard drive (parts I had), and seemed a bit easier to work in despite actually being a bit shallower. The only big problem with it is that it's basically useless if you intend to use a PCIe graphics card as you did, because unlike the ISK, it has no vents below the low-profile slot.
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You may be able to mod the case so that there are vents on the bottom, and some feet to hold it up.

One good thing about that case is that it uses a standard TFX PSU.
 
cytoSiN said:
Awesome. Thanks. Anyone using 4 sticks together? I typically don't combine kits, but I'm interested in trying 16GB in a new rig.
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yup 🙂

contemplating stocking up to not only try 6 or 8 x 4GB sticks and/or just have extra for secondary rigs...

really love this ram, very hard to beat right now IMO

not only is it very good for what you get in speed/capacity for the price, its actually some of the least expensive memory out there period. On top of that its low profile, which can come in very handy for working with larger heatsinks and/or SFF rigs. I actually had to remove heat spreaders on normal sized ram when working on a shoebox HTPC rig I built for my sister and even then that ram just barely fit, these sticks would have made things so much easier if I had them at the time.
 
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All 4 sticks arrived yesterday. I won't get to testing them for another week or so, but I wanted to report back that Newegg's packaging for these things is atrocious. They threw both packages, one against the other, in one very minimally padded (very thin bubbles on each side) envelope. That's it. Nothing to separate the packages, and nothing to keep the whole thing from bending in half besides the rigidity of the RAM itself. They couldn't spare a small box and some peanuts? I've always loved all things Newegg, but this is not cool at all. Anyway the RAM appears undamaged, but I'll let you know...
 
cytoSiN said:
All 4 sticks arrived yesterday. I won't get to testing them for another week or so, but I wanted to report back that Newegg's packaging for these things is atrocious. They threw both packages, one against the other, in one very minimally padded (very thin bubbles on each side) envelope. That's it. Nothing to separate the packages, and nothing to keep the whole thing from bending in half besides the rigidity of the RAM itself. They couldn't spare a small box and some peanuts? I've always loved all things Newegg, but this is not cool at all. Anyway the RAM appears undamaged, but I'll let you know...
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Looking forward to a full report. Does seem strange to ship them in an envelope.

Finished my itx build with these yesterday. Had it at DDR3 1333, cas9, 1.35v, but saw that cpu-z reported that spd voltage is actually 1.28, not 1.35v as given on the package and the web. Set it at 1.3v and called it a day.

By the way, deal ends in three days, for those still interested.
 
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Termie said:
Still true that memory controllers are too stressed by this combination to run at the speeds the sticks are capable of?
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Don't know about these Samsung sticks, but I do know that the memory controller in both SB and IVB are quite capable of handling 4x4GB of 2133 9-9-9-24 1.5V memory without a problem at all. I currently have a 4x4GB set of Corsair Dominator GT DDR3-2133 1.5V running on my Asus Maximus V Gene w/a 2500K @ 4.5GHz. The same setup has also had a 3570K @ 4.4GHz on it, too, and ran without problems.

Hope that helps.
 
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Awesome!

The deal is dead, and the sticks are now $47 - still pretty much the best deal going, for those who are interested.
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It was $40 on sale. At $47, this is still an AMAZING value. You simply can't get performance like this at this price, AND they'll fit in any case under any HSF.
 
cytoSiN said:
Results are in. In short, this was a great purchase and an easy, fun overclock. I'm hooked on this RAM!
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Imagunna go read it NAO!

cytoSiN said:
It was $40 on sale. At $47, this is still an AMAZING value. You simply can't get performance like this at this price, AND they'll fit in any case under any HSF.
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Yup totally agree. I'm still sticking with it even though my Zotac ITX board hates it. I've narrowed it down to every other POST. Yup. One POST it will go through just fine. Next POST it will hang with a POST error code 99.

http://downloads.zotac.com/mediadrivers/mb/man/AMI_EFI.pdf

0x99 Super IO Initialization

Strange.

Anyways, if it hangs on 99 I hit reset and it goes straight to BIOS. I exit w/o saving and it boots up normal. The next time it POSTs it boots up normal. The time after than, hangs on 99. Always in this order.

This behavior started when I swapped out the RAM for this Samsung stuff.
 
UPDATE - 9/7/12: New 15% coupon code (EMCNANC48) works on these, bringing them down to their lowest price ever!

Hurry - code good for two days only!
 
For those too lazy to review that other thread, I finally settled on 1866-9-9-9-24-1T @ 1.42v. I had them stable at 2133, but with slower timings and more voltage, and the performance was almost exactly the same. I also had them stable at 1866-8-9-9-24-1T @1.5v, but the performance improvement was so miniscule that it didn't justify the voltage bump in my opinion.
 
Thanks, grabbed some of these. There's a lot of kits that are cheaper with rebates, but they tend to be older ones with higher required voltages. In my case they almost always come in denominations of 2 dimms without an option for a 2nd kit under the same rebate, so I spent a bit more on this without a rebate.

Also, for those on older platforms like mine (X58) that need triple channel and don't want 6 DIMMs, you can get a single DIMM of the same RAM to pair up with the 2 DIMM kit in the main link. Same price per DIMM and everything.

Single DIMM (~$18) kit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147094
 
Had to resist. The sweet spot for me is the $30 (DDR3 1600, cas9, 1.5v) G.Skill. As I have no need for RAM I will ignore everything else.
 
I'm in for 2 sets. Updating my son's system for this Christmas, and this will go a way to that ultimate goal (he's not getting 16GB, he's getting 8GB "hand-me-down" from my ESXi server, which will end up with 16GB after the shuffle)

Holding off for the SSD until Black Friday... I'm sure I'll be able to pick up a 240~256GB SSD for less than $100 at that time, but RAM might not go down for a while.
 
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