[DEAD] Samsung 2x4GB 30nm 1.35v DDR3 memory - $38.24FS @Newegg

[Termie]

UPDATE - 10/1/12 - new code (MEM106) gives you 12% off, bringing the 2x4GB set just under $40. Sorry - can't update the thread title anymore due to age of thread.

UPDATE - 9/18/12 A single 4GB stick is $20: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&SID=u00000687. Buy two for $40

UPDATE - 9/10/12: Back to standard price of $45.

UPDATE - 9/7/12: New 15% coupon code (EMCNANC48) works on these, bringing them down to their lowest price ever!

This is practically the fastest AND cheapest DDR3 you can buy. It's the sleeper hit of the year, and Samsung is seriously under-pricing it and under-rating it. Now it's at its lowest price ever - $40 shipped.

Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc..._-20147096-L0C

Code: EMCNBNA25
Ends 8/15/12.

Lots of people are running this at 2133, 1.5v, but I happened to buy it a few weeks ago for an ITX setup that I'm building because it was low voltage and incredibly low-profile. It will fit in any case.

 

[cytoSiN]

1600/1.35v/11-11-11-28...any idea what kind of timings people are seeing at 2133/1.5v?

Some of the reviews report 2200/1.6v/10-10-10-24, 2133m/1.44/9-10-10-28, and 1866/1.35/9-9-9-24. I'd aim for 2133/1.5v/9-9-9-24 or even 8-8-8-24, but I'm not sure they could take it at that voltage.

Also here's a clean link.

 

[lehtv]

At CL9, they should do 1866. MHz is more important anyway so I'd shoot for 2133 CL10/11

 

[Gigantopithecus]

I have three kits in FM1 rigs that are at 2133MHz, 1.5v, 9-10-10-24. This is really good RAM and I like that they don't have goofy heatspreaders. In for more...

 

[cytoSiN]

I have three kits in FM1 rigs that are at 2133MHz, 1.5v, 9-10-10-24. This is really good RAM and I like that they don't have goofy heatspreaders. In for more...

Awesome. Thanks. Anyone using 4 sticks together? I typically don't combine kits, but I'm interested in trying 16GB in a new rig.

 

[Termie]

1600/1.35v/11-11-11-28...any idea what kind of timings people are seeing at 2133/1.5v?

Some of the reviews report 2200/1.6v/10-10-10-24, 2133m/1.44/9-10-10-28, and 1866/1.35/9-9-9-24. I'd aim for 2133/1.5v/9-9-9-24 or even 8-8-8-24, but I'm not sure they could take it at that voltage.

Also here's a clean link.

I think it's the same link - the stupid redirector is causing a delay right now.

By the way, like you I'm very curious if people are getting similar speed/timings out of these at 4x4GB versus 2x4GB. Still true that memory controllers are too stressed by this combination to run at the speeds the sticks are capable of?

 

[cytoSiN]

I think it's the same link - the stupid redirector is causing a delay right now.

Wow that's some bullshit...we put clean links, and they change the link to add the "may we suggest" panel? Is NE doing that or AT?

 

[DarkRogue]

Everyone keeps going nuts about this memory.. I wish they had these 1.35v kits in 8GB DIMMs.. Do they?

 

[cytoSiN]

Everyone keeps going nuts about this memory.. I wish they had these 1.35v kits in 8GB DIMMs.. Do they?

Don't think so. Even if they did, the timings would probably be a lot lower, or the price a lot higher.

 

[philipma1957]

Awesome. Thanks. Anyone using 4 sticks together? I typically don't combine kits, but I'm interested in trying 16GB in a new rig.

I have 16 gb at 1866 with 10 10 10 maybe 1.65 volts don't remember have to check.

using a i7 3770t and an intel mobo.


http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...op-motherboards/desktop-board-dz77re-75k.html

since I have the t version of the i7 3770

it oc's a bit but weirdly . It does it's best oc on this mobo. on other mobos ram stays locked and the cpu goes up just a bit.

On this mobo i could go higher then 1866 it will run 2133 with all 4 sticks at 1.65. I am not the best one to use as a yard stick since the 3770t creates some weird benchmarks and oc restrictions.

 

[MontyAC]

Nice to see a sale on great Samsung ram.

 

[Termie]

Don't think so. Even if they did, the timings would probably be a lot lower, or the price a lot higher.

I think Newegg has made a sudden redesign of its website, again...

I have 16 gb at 1866 with 10 10 10 maybe 1.65 volts don't remember have to check.

using a i7 3770t and an intel mobo.


http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...op-motherboards/desktop-board-dz77re-75k.html

since I have the t version of the i7 3770

it oc's a bit but weirdly . It does it's best oc on this mobo. on other mobos ram stays locked and the cpu goes up just a bit.

On this mobo i could go higher then 1866 it will run 2133 with all 4 sticks at 1.65. I am not the best one to use as a yard stick since the 3770t creates some weird benchmarks and oc restrictions.

Thanks for that info. If the 4 sticks require 1.65v at 2133, that would definitely indicate they aren't running quite as efficiently as 2 sticks do (most people hit that speed with 1.5v or less). Like you said, it could be your CPU setup though.

 

[cytoSiN]

Went through the reviews again and found a few people claiming to run 4 sticks at 2133/1.5v. At least one of those was using an X79 platform, but I'm assuming I'll be able to do the same using z68.

 

[Termie]

Went through the reviews again and found a few people claiming to run 4 sticks at 2133/1.5v. At least one of those was using an X79 platform, but I'm assuming I'll be able to do the same using z68.

I am very tempted to try this...

 

[cytoSiN]

I am very tempted to try this...

Ditto. My current 8gb of GSkill 1600/1.5v/8-8-8-24 is using an XMP profile too, so would be easy to switch back to it if I can't get the 16gb of Samsung to work at 2133/1.5v, in which case I would just put them in separate machines at that frequency. Plus, $80 for 16gb@2133 is pretty unbeatable right now...

Edit: Trigger pulled...I'll let you know how it goes.

 

[Termie]

Ditto. My current 8gb of GSkill 1600/1.5v/8-8-8-24 is using an XMP profile too, so would be easy to switch back to it if I can't get the 16gb of Samsung to work at 2133/1.5v, in which case I would just put them in separate machines at that frequency. Plus, $80 for 16gb@2133 is pretty unbeatable right now...

Edit: Trigger pulled...I'll let you know how it goes.

Ha, ha, nice! Looks like it took you all of 3 minutes to scratch that itch!

I might not be able to wait to hear how it goes for you, though...so tempting...

 

[philipma1957]

A quick heads up

The ram is easy to bend .

When you open the package be very careful. Use a scissors or a knife. Really cut away as much of the package as you can.

 

[Termie]

A quick heads up

The ram is easy to bend .

When you open the package be very careful. Use a scissors or a knife.

Agreed...I couldn't believe how un-user-friendly the packaging was.

 

[Zxian]

I've got four of these sticks in my system, and I've managed to get them down to running at DDR3-1600 CL8 at 1.35V. I tried for quite a while to get them to run at DDR3-2000 with no luck, even bumping up timings to 12-12-12-36 and voltage to 1.55V. I didn't try for too long, but it definitely seemed more difficult to get them to run stably at higher than stock clockspeeds. OTOH, lowering timings was dead simple.

 

[Termie]

I've got four of these sticks in my system, and I've managed to get them down to running at DDR3-1600 CL8 at 1.35V. I tried for quite a while to get them to run at DDR3-2000 with no luck, even bumping up timings to 12-12-12-36 and voltage to 1.55V. I didn't try for too long, but it definitely seemed more difficult to get them to run stably at higher than stock clockspeeds. OTOH, lowering timings was dead simple.

Thanks for this feedback. I wonder if additional IMC voltage would help. Your experience would suggest that running 4 sticks at high frequency is trickier than running two sticks.

Alas, I think that this convinced me to hold off for now...still happy I scored two sticks a few weeks ago for an ITX build.

 

[cytoSiN]

I've got four of these sticks in my system, and I've managed to get them down to running at DDR3-1600 CL8 at 1.35V. I tried for quite a while to get them to run at DDR3-2000 with no luck, even bumping up timings to 12-12-12-36 and voltage to 1.55V. I didn't try for too long, but it definitely seemed more difficult to get them to run stably at higher than stock clockspeeds. OTOH, lowering timings was dead simple.

Thanks for this feedback. I wonder if additional IMC voltage would help. Your experience would suggest that running 4 sticks at high frequency is trickier than running two sticks.

Alas, I think that this convinced me to hold off for now...still happy I scored two sticks a few weeks ago for an ITX build.

I bit, in large part because my wife is taking the dog to stay with the in-laws for a week and I'll have some time to fiddle with getting these sticks to work properly.

Also, there were enough reviews on Newegg to assume that it's possible to get a stable setup with 4 sticks at 2133/1.5v. I'll give it a whirl and report back. Worst case, I'll sell one kit as confirmed working but never used.

 

[felang]

I've got four of these sticks in my system, and I've managed to get them down to running at DDR3-1600 CL8 at 1.35V. I tried for quite a while to get them to run at DDR3-2000 with no luck, even bumping up timings to 12-12-12-36 and voltage to 1.55V. I didn't try for too long, but it definitely seemed more difficult to get them to run stably at higher than stock clockspeeds. OTOH, lowering timings was dead simple.

I was having the same problem with some GSKILL RAM and came upon some info about memory timings I had never come across before (tWCL) in a review of the RAM the OP linked.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Samsung/MV-3V4G3/6.html

"There are two timings that are linked together that will help greatly in overclocking. When these two timings are not set correctly, overclocking will not be as successful, and long-term stability can be hard to attain without excessive voltage. The above picture shows the primary and secondary timings we used to reach 2400 MHz with 1.575 V.

The two crucial timings, of course, are CAS Latency, and Write CAS Latency.

For CAS 6 and 7, tWCL should be CAS -1 (so CAS 6 gets tWCL 5 and CAS 7 gets tWCL 6)

For CAS 8 and 9, tWCL should be CAS -2 (so CAS 8 gets tWCL 6 and CAS 9 gets tWCL 7)

For CAS 10 and 11, tWCL should be CAS -3 (so CAS 10 gets tWCL 7, and CAS 11 gets tWCL 8)

I mention this as tWCL is not a timing that is talked about very often, if at all. However, because it has proven itself as a critical timing during testing, it is something that I felt must mention."

Modifiying TWCL according to this info let me run my 1600 mhz CAS 9 rated RAM at 2133 mhz CAS 10 when I could barely overclock it before. Sorry if this is common knowledge and I had somehow missed it.

 

[Zap]

I bought a set a while back for my ITX rig. Mixed results, because the crappy Zotac motherboard doesn't allow me to make changes in BIOS, and with this RAM will sometimes hang on POST, then think it failed overclocking. Really funny, because the motherboard doesn't support overclocking.

It will fit in any case.

It will also fit under any heatsink. :thumbsup:

Wow that's some bullshit...we put clean links, and they change the link to add the "may we suggest" panel? Is NE doing that or AT?

Two things going on here.

1) Newegg "changed" their site, but looks as if only for certain products or if through referral links. Basically, I've seen both "versions." For those of us who have shopped Newegg long enough, we know they tend to "fix what ain't broken" every couple years. Most recent "fix" that I don't like is the proliferation of "Marketplace" sellers, and of putting multiple products/sellers on a single page so you have a "from" price. But anyways, people always complain whenever they change stuff. Just like whenever a new Windows comes out people complain.

2) AnandTech has its own referral link system. It does not change what you pay. What happens is AnandTech earns a little amount for doing that. What AnandTech earns from referral links as well as banner ads goes to pay for hosting.

 

[cytoSiN]

Two things going on here.

1) Newegg "changed" their site, but looks as if only for certain products or if through referral links. Basically, I've seen both "versions." For those of us who have shopped Newegg long enough, we know they tend to "fix what ain't broken" every couple years. Most recent "fix" that I don't like is the proliferation of "Marketplace" sellers, and of putting multiple products/sellers on a single page so you have a "from" price. But anyways, people always complain whenever they change stuff. Just like whenever a new Windows comes out people complain.

2) AnandTech has its own referral link system. It does not change what you pay. What happens is AnandTech earns a little amount for doing that. What AnandTech earns from referral links as well as banner ads goes to pay for hosting.

Agreed re: fixing what ain't broke. And I have no problems with AT making money off of click-throughs. In fact I'm all for it, and post my hot deals here (as opposed to elsewhere) because I like the community and the main site a lot. I just don't like that I post a "clean" link that doesn't have the "May we suggest" crap appended to the URL, and somehow by the time you get to the NE site, the URL has been changed. I guess it means the redirector is changing it? In any event, this is all beside the point, and like you said it doesn't change what you pay, so /rant.

 

[cytoSiN]

I was having the same problem with some GSKILL RAM and came upon some info about memory timings I had never come across before (tWCL) in a review of the RAM the OP linked.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Samsung/MV-3V4G3/6.html

"There are two timings that are linked together that will help greatly in overclocking. When these two timings are not set correctly, overclocking will not be as successful, and long-term stability can be hard to attain without excessive voltage. The above picture shows the primary and secondary timings we used to reach 2400 MHz with 1.575 V.

The two crucial timings, of course, are CAS Latency, and Write CAS Latency.

For CAS 6 and 7, tWCL should be CAS -1 (so CAS 6 gets tWCL 5 and CAS 7 gets tWCL 6)

For CAS 8 and 9, tWCL should be CAS -2 (so CAS 8 gets tWCL 6 and CAS 9 gets tWCL 7)

For CAS 10 and 11, tWCL should be CAS -3 (so CAS 10 gets tWCL 7, and CAS 11 gets tWCL 8)

I mention this as tWCL is not a timing that is talked about very often, if at all. However, because it has proven itself as a critical timing during testing, it is something that I felt must mention."

Modifiying TWCL according to this info let me run my 1600 mhz CAS 9 rated RAM at 2133 mhz CAS 10 when I could barely overclock it before. Sorry if this is common knowledge and I had somehow missed it.

Thanks! :thumbsup: It may be common knowledge, but I've never tweaked that timing before (never had to in order to achieve stability), so good to know in case I have issues with these sticks.