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*Dead* Razer Diamondback 3G Gaming Mouse (new) - $25 @ Woot

Bought one of these off woot a few months ago, and although I prefer my G5 because I have bigger hands and like a taller mouse, I really liked this mouse. Very smooth and well-built.
 
Originally posted by: gucio69
Is this mouse better than Logitech MX518SE? I'm considering it as a backup mouse.
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That's entirely subjective.

Both are 1800dpi, but the MX518 mice are some of the best I've ever used as far as ergonomics and button placement. I had a Razer Copperhead and although it was super-sensitive, I couldn't get used to the shape and side button placement. Perhaps with more time, but I just stuck with the MX518 and G5.

I've got a ton of mice on the way this week that I'm going to compare in search of one that can supplant the MX518...Ikari Laser, Razer DeathAdder, Razer Lachesis, Logitech G9...I'm going to try to play with just about all of the "top" mice and see if the ergnomics on the newer Razer mice are more my style.
 
Originally posted by: gucio69
Is this mouse better than Logitech MX518SE? I'm considering it as a backup mouse.
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I used the 518 prior to buying the Razer.

Honestly, I'd say they both are great mice and have advantages. The 518 always felt really comfortable and I liked the side button placement; I was not a huge fan of the main left and right buttons though (always felt too small). The Diamondback is just about the opposite; nice large main buttons but the side buttons take a while to adjust to and are not always as crisp/easy to press.
 
I have also owned both mice and after a while of not ever really getting used to the Razer, I switched back to Logitech and picked up a G5. Great mouse just make sure you get the newer model with the 2 side buttons.
 
Originally posted by: WHipLAsh13
I have also owned both mice and after a while of not ever really getting used to the Razer, I switched back to Logitech and picked up a G5. Great mouse just make sure you get the newer model with the 2 side buttons.
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I refuse to buy a new mouse without the side buttons 🙂 That and I'm hoping the free-spin middle button becomes standard too. That feature is so nice and I just found out recently having purchase a MX 😀 Now I can't live without it while doing work or surfing. My excel spreadsheets are long and wide 😛
 
Diamondback didn't fit in my hand very well, so went G5. Good mouse though, and great price.

Imyourzero - don't forget the MS Sidewinder.

-z
 
i'm thinking......maybe

i already have one i bought over a year ago from woot. The problem now?

The right click just isn't snappy anymore. I can push the button and make contact with the base of the mouse and not even trigger the actuation. I blame it on constant DOTA (I'm a right click fiend. Wouldn't be suprised if I have a time average of 15 clicks per 10 seconds)...but I have friends with logitech/ms/dell mice that click as much as I do and haven't had the same problem. Of course that problem has also led me to preforming worse during dota, especially (before I noticed this problem) because sometimes I swore I clicked on the other guy but it never triggered

However I do love the feel of the mouse, so I may just buy another one simply because of that. I have to the end of the night so I'm not in a rush...
 
Might have to get it if only to add one to my collection. The 3G sensor is easily one of the best on the market, problem is that Razer has kind of nerfed the Diamondback 3G on the software side of things to curb competition with their more expensive mice such as the DeathAdder and Lachesis, or even the much older Copperhead - the mouse really is little difference from an original Diamondback only with a newer/better sensor. Not a big deal if you never install drivers for a mouse, and some of the drawbacks such as lack of ability to alter the polling rate can easily be remedied via 3rd party tools.
 
How is this compared to the Vx Revolution? I lost the receiver to the Vx and the cost of getting a new one is pretty close to the cost of this mouse. I don't really care about the wireless part either.
 
Originally posted by: gucio69
Is this mouse better than Logitech MX518SE? I'm considering it as a backup mouse.
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I was thinking the same when I got mine last time and ended up delegating the logitech to my secondary computer. Completely personal thing I bet, I just like the ergonomics of razer better. If you like smaller mice, diamondback is perfect.

bunnyfubbles, I never installed any drivers (yet)... am I missing out anything? what 3rd party tools do you recommend?
 
My hands cramp up with just about every single Razer mouse. I've tried pretty much all of them and I ended up with one MX518 per computer.
 
Originally posted by: konakona
bunnyfubbles, I never installed any drivers (yet)... am I missing out anything? what 3rd party tools do you recommend?
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Drivers will allow you to program the buttons, switch the DPI, and probably the most useful tool would be on-the-fly-sensitivity adjustment which allows you to throttle sensitivity so you can quickly go from max speed to max precision with several stages in between.

However the software does not let you toggle the polling rate like it does with their higher end mice. There are ways to manually force higher polling rates, and even tools that will do most of that work for you, but most of these methods force all your USB ports to operate at a higher polling rate which can be bad for other devices. I know there's an awesome tool that can alter polling rate on a per device basis and only the port that device is on. Can't remember the name of it but I'll have to dig it up or find it.
 
I think it's subjective. Anytime someone asks if a particular device is "better" and much of what makes it better is determined by the user's affinity to the ergonomics of that device, objectivity means little. Who cares if one mouse has a higher DPI on paper if it's uncomfortable to use?

I'm hoping I'll like the DeathAdder when it gets here, but it's going to have to be one heck of a mouse to make me switch from the MX518 as my full time mouse. Most greats do eventually fall to younger, better competition...but sometimes legends live forever. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: orthancstone
Honestly, I'd say they both are great mice and have advantages. The 518 always felt really comfortable and I liked the side button placement; I was not a huge fan of the main left and right buttons though (always felt too small). The Diamondback is just about the opposite; nice large main buttons but the side buttons take a while to adjust to and are not always as crisp/easy to press.
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That's a great assessment. I, too, find the 518 side buttons better, but the Diamondback main buttons better. I also like the shape of the Razer mice, so that's what I mostly use. I have two 518 and a G5, and five Diamondback and a Copperhead. My wife has a 515 and loves that shape, so that's what she uses (an old blue one).
 
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