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Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
I think what the guy was trying to say is that less-lethal weapons aren't going to do much for a mountain lion, short of a 5 pound can of pepper spray/tear gas.
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Well, he also said non-lethal weapons aren't going to do much for a human either, hence my point.

Originally posted by: BurningDog
Non-lethal weapons work on humans b/c of a psycological factor ("i've been shot!"). Yes, it hurts like hell, but does very little effective damage....
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Originally posted by: minendo
They have never allowed the sale/trade/purchase of weapons at AnandTech.
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I thought that was the rule too.

Btw, did anyone notice last night while the thread was locked, that the mods comment to that fellow said "U.S. Civil Code"? (Now it says "Criminal Code", which is correct.) It had me scratching my head for a bit. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: minendo
They have never allowed the sale/trade/purchase of weapons at AnandTech.
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I thought that was the rule too.

Btw, did anyone notice last night while the thread was locked, that the mods comment to that fellow said "U.S. Civil Code"? (Now it says "Criminal Code", which is correct.) It had me scratching my head for a bit. 🙂
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Actually it's just USC: United States Code, as in codified law.
 
Well, the thing is I already shoot recurve archery. That was more from a club than anything else, and I am pretty good, but can't own a bow on campus. It's really fun, I recommend it to anyone who wants to try it out sometime. Problem is, they disbanded the riflery squad about four years before I got there. And, it is almost impossible to get licensed without sounding like a military nut nowadays. I guess I should first get instruction from a course at a range, and go from there.

I am aware of basic gun safety, archery and paintballing both require that. It is more common sense than anything else, what I am worried about is the legal aspect. Someone I know lost an antique shotgun under the CA automatic weapons ban since it fired both rounds in one trigger pull, albeit on the second pull. Technicalities like that, or getting 'flagged' in a traffic stop are that worry me. Eroding rights, I guess.
 
While I agree gun owners should be very responsible, keep in mind the "news", especially the visual type of news media, is extremely biased when it comes to guns, as in biased against guns, so they will not only report just the news that makes gun ownership look bad, they will falsify information to make guns look even worse.

The statistics given by the media generally are completely false and/or skewed. Yes, kids get killed because of irresponsible owners, but not to the degree most are led to believe. The lives saved by gun ownership of responsible citizens far outweighs the deaths of children(which really is a very, very small number).

Sure, if nobody had guns it would not be a problem, but millions have them, and banning them (specifically handguns) will only result in law abiding citizens giving their guns up, increasing the ratio of criminals with guns to innocents with guns.. The country needs more responsible and trained handgun owners. not fewer.

Even if guns could be eliminated from the populous altogether(including criminals), that would still be a bad, bad thing. The end result is our law enforcement personnel and our way too massive government (i.e. military) would have the only people with guns. I wouldn't feel comfortable about that if such were the case..

Armed citizenship is a good thing folks.



Originally posted by: Cheetah8799

Guns are not toys.... ....Just read the news and you can find out what happens when you are not a responsible gun owner.
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Originally posted by: jburnham
For personal defense, Glock all the way. For concealed carry, Glock 36 with a +1 extension. For cheap ammo get a .22 or if you want more fun factor, 9mm - just don't count on either to save your butt in a gunfight.
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Too much .45 fanboiism has led people to believe the 9mm is an ineffective cartridge. It's definitely not. The hot loads can be just as powerful as a .45. And never forget, a gun, ANY gun, can be extremely lethal in trained hands.
 
Too much .45 fanboiism has led people to believe the 9mm is an ineffective cartridge. It's definitely not.
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I also like the 9mm a lot and the .45 not as much due to slower rate of fire and excessive recoil. The .40 S&W is probably the best of the three if you don't mind the extra snappiness and muzzle blast that come with it.


Armed citizenship is a good thing folks.
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I agree with the reasons you mentioned and also would add that I've found target shooting to be my favorite sport and highly recommend it to everyone (with proper education and safety of course). I don't even hunt but still find target shooting to be very rewarding. I imagine it's something like golf where accuracy and consistency are the challenges. You can shoot targets with easy shooting calibers like .22 rimfire and airguns to make it affordable and easy to do for anyone.
 
I own one gun and it's a Glock 34 (tactical 9mm) and it stays locked up at the range. I shoot it for entertainment and never intend to use it for self defense so it's okay for me. I think the 9mm's strengths are it's ability to shoot better through glass and heavily clothed targets and a few other special circumstances. If I thought I needed a gun to protect me from being car-jacked, or if I lived in Alaska I might consider 9mm or even a 10mm. I think the downside to the 9mm is the increased chance that it will over penetrate and not dump enough of its energy into the target. I don't think I'll ever need to use a gun once for self defense, and certainly not frequently enough that I'd pick compromise ammo for special circumstances. If I were going to buy one gun for concealed carry, it would be a Glock 36 with a +1 extension mag.
 
"Anyways, just to throw it out, if you guys have any questions on guns, whether it be general or what kind you should get or whatnot, let me know. Might even post a thread in OT if it doesn't get jacked up by n00bs."

Nice of you to offer, but can you imagine the howls of laughter when the person is asked where he got the advice, and the response is: "Well, from an internet hot deals web forum from someone calling himself "PsychoAndy."
 
Nice of you to offer, but can you imagine the howls of laughter when the person is asked where he got the advice, and the response is: "Well, from an internet hot deals web forum from someone calling himself "PsychoAndy."

LOL
Yeah, I think I"ll be keeping any advice I get from PsychoAndy to myself, no matter how good it might be, rather than having to try and explain the source!
 
Originally posted by: allisolm
Nice of you to offer, but can you imagine the howls of laughter when the person is asked where he got the advice, and the response is: "Well, from an internet hot deals web forum from someone calling himself "PsychoAndy."

LOL
Yeah, I think I'd be keeping that advice to myself, no matter how good it might be!
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Well I'll vouch that he knows what he's talking about 😉
 
Originally posted by: cshel
Get a Bersa Thunder .380

Inexpensive, reliable, small, and attractive.
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I've thought about getting a Bersa, and even asked about them in the past, but people seem to (maybe not in that thread) group them with the other low cost guns (like Kel-Tec) and say they're not worth the risk of a backfire or misfire. Please make me believe otherwise. 🙂
 
Its hard to find a hot deal on pistols and I agree with whoever said basically used = retail. You learn enough about your piece u can change whatever needed to be changed and that great warranty.
I paid like 20 bucks for a lifetime warranty for my glock 19. I want to a get a baby glock like a G32 and most people want way too much for that.

Guns are only bad in the hands of stupid people, like anything else in this world, its just that its negative effects are reall permenant and too many people forget owning a gun is a right before an offense.

Also what is the deal with hollow points? They're Illegall but you can still buy them? Who knows more on this, PM me or post or whatever. Props to the admins for being bigger men and keeping the thread active.
 
Don't see anything about coupons for Class 3 stuff.
Fully automatic 1919a4 pic here😀
Oh, hollow points are not illegal. Black Talon was volutarily withdrawn a few years ago because of concerns of tearing the gloves of EMTs or other medical personel. Other than that, you can get most anything you want, and use it in your self defense gun.
 
Originally posted by: jburnham
I own one gun and it's a Glock 34 (tactical 9mm) and it stays locked up at the range. I shoot it for entertainment and never intend to use it for self defense so it's okay for me. I think the 9mm's strengths are it's ability to shoot better through glass and heavily clothed targets and a few other special circumstances. If I thought I needed a gun to protect me from being car-jacked, or if I lived in Alaska I might consider 9mm or even a 10mm. I think the downside to the 9mm is the increased chance that it will over penetrate and not dump enough of its energy into the target. I don't think I'll ever need to use a gun once for self defense, and certainly not frequently enough that I'd pick compromise ammo for special circumstances. If I were going to buy one gun for concealed carry, it would be a Glock 36 with a +1 extension mag.
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Wow! This is a pleasant surprise. From the way some people talk, it sounds like they're living in the West Bank and put their lives on the line every time they drive the SUV to the drive-through at McDonald's.

This is all just too reasonable and sensible. I'm sorta at a loss for words.

Thanks for the post! (seriously)
 
Originally posted by: CheetahMk2
Well, I have a more serious question. It's getting rather hard to even talk about firearms anymore, people will come down on you as an enemy combattant or something. I wanted to learn riflery since I was young, but now I really don't know where I could go to learn. Or pistol marksmanship. On an off topic, does anyone have any reccomendations on where I can go t learn these skills? I'd have to obtain a license first, but what are the general steps one needs to follow?
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I recommend West Coast Tactical. It's a few guys (former military, cops, etc.) who go to a lot of training on their own and bring it back and distill it into useful info and skills for the average gun owner. It's run at a range in Torrance, CA. I took the tactical handgun class and felt 100% more confident in handling my Glock afterwards. They cover everything from basic safety, stance, loading/reloading/clearing jams, self defense laws, plus various range exercises using timed turning targets.
 
Originally posted by: XNice
Its hard to find a hot deal on pistols and I agree with whoever said basically used = retail. You learn enough about your piece u can change whatever needed to be changed and that great warranty.
I paid like 20 bucks for a lifetime warranty for my glock 19. I want to a get a baby glock like a G32 and most people want way too much for that.

Guns are only bad in the hands of stupid people, like anything else in this world, its just that its negative effects are reall permenant and too many people forget owning a gun is a right before an offense.

Also what is the deal with hollow points? They're Illegall but you can still buy them? Who knows more on this, PM me or post or whatever. Props to the admins for being bigger men and keeping the thread active.
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Hollow points are not illegal? I have 100's of em for my marlin 44 mag. You can buy em at any store in many calibers. There not 'cop killers' although my uncle has 9mm winchester black something that are tese hollow point teflon coated serrated beasts, right on the box they say gaurenteed to cut through some type of body protection. Scary stuff, he keeps em in his ruger under his bed.
 
I`ve never liked a Glock, although i`ve owned a few. Berretta 92 FS are great pistols, but last year I upgraded to a H&K Tactical 45 after shooting one. A S&W Airweight hammerless 38 is a great summertime pistol(easy to carry and conceil).



Hollow points are not illegal? I have 100's of em for my marlin 44 mag. You can buy em at any store in many calibers. There not 'cop killers' although my uncle has 9mm winchester black something that are tese hollow point teflon coated serrated beasts, right on the box they say gaurenteed to cut through some type of body protection. Scary stuff, he keeps em in his ruger under his bed.
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Black Talons, I have a few boxes of them. They stopped makeing them several years ago.
 
Originally posted by: CheetahMk2
Well, I have a more serious question. It's getting rather hard to even talk about firearms anymore, people will come down on you as an enemy combattant or something. I wanted to learn riflery since I was young, but now I really don't know where I could go to learn. Or pistol marksmanship. On an off topic, does anyone have any reccomendations on where I can go t learn these skills? I'd have to obtain a license first, but what are the general steps one needs to follow?
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A good place to start would be the forums at www.thehighroad.org. Very intelligent community. Probably the largest collection of firearm enthusiasts who AREN'T frothing gun nuts/militia wackos/conspiracy loonies on the Net.
 
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