I also got mine today, I also got the prescott just as ordered, It also has the upgraded heat sink to help keep it cool.
I had a ship date of April 7 so I got it earlier than expected.
Yes that screen is totally awesome - I have the 19' 1901 and it is great, but a friend of mine ordered the 20"er and it is quite a bit better in terms of color rendition and quite possibly for gaming (25ms vs. 16 ms) .
Yes and I was goint to post this too - they are using the PIV 3.2 heat-pipe heatsink - which appears to be very efficient. no heat at all and accelerated fan noise initially.
Now I started to insert 1 GB of Geil ram and my radeon 9800 pro card (separately powered) and it emitts a bit of heat but fan is still low.
Also I inspected the PSU - it appears to be very similar to the SC400 PSU which is speced at 250W. HOWEVER I newer had such a heavy 250W PSU in my hands - I think it is rated at 22A on the 5V rail, but it weighs and feels like my pcpower and cooling 450W unit if not heavier.
Yo
That's great too!. Just checked status again and still seems to be stalled in "boxing" as it hasn't changed that status since Saturday. And my estimated ship date was, and remains, March 1st. But as someone around here mentioned before, Dell seems to be conservative in their ship dates, often shipping early. A friend just got a notebook from them Tues afternoon which wasn't supposed to ship until March 26th with a delivery estimate of March 2, - 4th.
...russ
Thanks to Yo for the heads up on the deal! I ordered mine on 2/18 at about 12:30am. The ship date was estimated at 3/1. It shipped on 2/23 and somehow arrived to my home today (2/25). I don't know how it arrived so quickly! My invoice listed the Preston and that is exactly what I got!
I've lurked these boards off and on for a few years, but this is my first post.
I've lurked these boards off and on for a few years, but this is my first post.
For anyone that ordered the Prescott and got the Norhwood, did you call Dell yet to see what they would do? Mine's the Northwood and they (customer care/returns) aren't offering me any refund just to return it!:disgust:
Sorry to hear that you did not get a prescott 
Your success on this may depend upon how go into the negotiation:
Do you have any documentation that mentions the prescott? Then you could try to decline to pay for this machine since it is not what you ordered.
If you threaten to ship it back they should offer you at least the $100 or so that it will take them to ship it and refurb it.
OTOH I would aim at keeping this even with a northwood - if you maxed out this deal, even with a nothwood you got an awesome 3GHz box with 8xDVDRW for very little money.
Your success on this may depend upon how go into the negotiation:
Do you have any documentation that mentions the prescott? Then you could try to decline to pay for this machine since it is not what you ordered.
If you threaten to ship it back they should offer you at least the $100 or so that it will take them to ship it and refurb it.
OTOH I would aim at keeping this even with a northwood - if you maxed out this deal, even with a nothwood you got an awesome 3GHz box with 8xDVDRW for very little money.
Yo2, the return rep didn't have any idea what the difference was between the cpu's. My invoice didn't say 1mb cache, I finished ordering (upgrades) on the 18th at 5:30 PM. but as I started this order Prescott was still there. I need to get hold of someone at Dell that knows of this problem and least offer some comp. She was really clueless! Yes, there is no way I could build one like for this price but I ordered and wanted the Prescott!
I got a $100 refund after complaining with tech support customer care and returns for over an hour. Make sure you get a customer care person first and have them stay on the line with you as you go to the various departments "educating" the various parties on the problem. After customer care talked to returns it took all of 5 minutes to get the refund just be patient and polite. I got a system with northwood, 17" LCD(no dvi out, 120GB SATA, free dvd+rw, for under $1000 which in most tests beats the prescott without the overheating concerns. I was concerned with future upgradability and such but at these prices(and the deals you find here) its easier and smarter to just buy a new system next year rather than upgrading old technology(I'll upgrade again when 64 bit proc work in tandem with the OS).
I don't know why they work at a computer company and are clueless - oh well. Possibly rather than discussing this based on "Northwood" and "Prescott", which are insider terms, it may be prudent to insist that you ordered the system with the latest version PIV processor which is identified by having 1MB cache. Even the dumbest person should understand that....
Thanks Yo2 for your work on this thread, its easy just copy from chubby wallet, bennys, and claim its a super hot flaming moe deal but you took the time to update us etc and help others with questions.
BTW, my buddy she got a Prescott and she is happy as heck.
BTW, my buddy she got a Prescott and she is happy as heck.
You are welcome - I have benefitted from many other deals that were posted here so I am glad I could provide one on my own.
I am glad it worked out for your "buddy".
BTW I think there is nothing wrong with ripping a deal from another forum - I do that quite often, but I usually mention the source and I use direct links to deals.
As far as this deal is concerned I discovered it independently of FW or others, and actually ordered myself prior to posting it. Then posting such a deal and keeping the thread updated can be great fun.
Got it and checked it out, Northwood-ordered the Prescott. I'm now hearing some people are being offered $100 credit not to return it. WTF :|
Did your acknowledgment show the processor with 1MB cache? While checking out variations of info Dell has listed in my account, I found a link (for the first time) to an "Invoice Summary Page" which is formatted like a business letter. It indicated "This is your Acknowledgement" "Electronic Certified Copy" and also shows a "Waybill Number". Under Item Number and Description it shows 221-4282, Dimension 8300 Series, Intel Pentium 4 Processor at 3.0GHz w/HT Technology and 1MB cache".
This is only the second reference I've found related to my order that specifically mentions (by implication) the Prescott processor. The first reference was in the e-mail confirmation for the order.
What is their position as to replacing your order with one in conformance?
...russ
A little update on prescott performance and other issues:
As reported in many places the prescott CPUs tend to run quite hot, this also gave a base to the rumor that dell may not put them into the 8300. It was also reported that the prescott cpus are not quite as fast clock for clock as the northwoods - something to do with the pipline being deeper and branch prediction being different (some people suggest that at around 4 -4.5 GHz this will even out again).
Anyhow, after a few days with the system here are a few observations:
Noise - Northwood 8300 systems, even at 3.2 GHz, are usually whisperquiet - this prescott is not. I am using this inside my desk (door open and a good 8 inches of clearance towards the back and 4-6 towards top and sides at about 72F room temperature) and though it does not sound like an overclocker's jet-engine like case, the fan definitely is working and the whole system is noisy - not horrible but definitely noticeable.
Performance - overall the system appears fast and snappy - definitely nothing to complain about, however - I did a couple of benchies with sisoft sandra and the cpu as well as the memory scores seem to come up short against comparably clocked Northwoods (basically this 3GHz CPU is equivalent to a 2.4-2.6GHz northwood, moreover the memory scores are lower, partly because the mobo uses conservative timings).
It is fast though if the extra cache can be used - I am crunching SETI using seti-driver and single units get crunched in typically 1:55, using hyperthreading and processor affiity the system cracks 2 units typically in 2:45 - both are numbers that rival highly overclocked northwoods
So I guess my conclusion would be that if you got a northwood you are not missing too much - to the contrary a northwood system may be just as good, if not more useable for most applications.
Yo
most applications
As reported in many places the prescott CPUs tend to run quite hot, this also gave a base to the rumor that dell may not put them into the 8300. It was also reported that the prescott cpus are not quite as fast clock for clock as the northwoods - something to do with the pipline being deeper and branch prediction being different (some people suggest that at around 4 -4.5 GHz this will even out again).
Anyhow, after a few days with the system here are a few observations:
Noise - Northwood 8300 systems, even at 3.2 GHz, are usually whisperquiet - this prescott is not. I am using this inside my desk (door open and a good 8 inches of clearance towards the back and 4-6 towards top and sides at about 72F room temperature) and though it does not sound like an overclocker's jet-engine like case, the fan definitely is working and the whole system is noisy - not horrible but definitely noticeable.
Performance - overall the system appears fast and snappy - definitely nothing to complain about, however - I did a couple of benchies with sisoft sandra and the cpu as well as the memory scores seem to come up short against comparably clocked Northwoods (basically this 3GHz CPU is equivalent to a 2.4-2.6GHz northwood, moreover the memory scores are lower, partly because the mobo uses conservative timings).
It is fast though if the extra cache can be used - I am crunching SETI using seti-driver and single units get crunched in typically 1:55, using hyperthreading and processor affiity the system cracks 2 units typically in 2:45 - both are numbers that rival highly overclocked northwoods
So I guess my conclusion would be that if you got a northwood you are not missing too much - to the contrary a northwood system may be just as good, if not more useable for most applications.
Yo
most applications
By "heat-pipe" are you referring to the two copper colored 1/4 round tubes that protrude from the right side and curve back around into the huge heat sink fins?
...russ
Thanks for the confirmation Yo2.
The references to this type of heatsink in this thread are the first time I've heard of this.
now I guess that I should go find some used Dell ecc ram for my 400sc since I'm still considering putting the 2.8 from the sc into the 8300 and pulling the prescott for the sc.
...russ
The references to this type of heatsink in this thread are the first time I've heard of this.
now I guess that I should go find some used Dell ecc ram for my 400sc
since I'm still considering putting the 2.8 from the sc into the 8300 and pulling the prescott for the sc....russ
The 400sc does not require ECC - ordinary PC2700 or 3200 will do just fine (of course you can't mix it with the original ECC stick)
I got my system recently and I too, received the Northwood. I haven't really spent too much time testing it but I did notice the very sophisticated heatpipe cooler. Normally I'm an AMD-centric user; this is my first Intel system since a PII I had years ago. This was such a fantastic deal with a coupon, I couldn't pass it up. This forum certainly will move me closer to bankruptcy but at least I'll be smiling....
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