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[dead I think] Dell 2001FP 20" LCD $398, 24" 2405FPW Widescreen LCD $714

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Devistater

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Dell Home has Dell 2001FP LCD for $458 less $60 coupon ***** for a final price of $373.

They also have Dell 2405FPW Widescreen LCD monitor for $ 798 less $60 coupon ***** less $25 coupon ***** (when you use Dell Preferred Account to pay) for a final price of $713. Shipping for either is free, tax is charged for some.
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Coupons are over at SD front page.
If you dont use a dell preferred account to pay with its $738 from not using the $25 coupon.
Edit: As pointed out by a reply, the $25 DPA coupon only works with the 24"
This is the lowest price on the dell LCD monitors that its been for some time now. Most of the good dell deals were 6+ months ago. But looks like we are finally getting some decent deals again.

BTW, if you plan on upgrading to windows Vista and a HD DVD or a blu ray drive in your computer in the near future (I advise against Vista personally at least until SP1 lol) you may want to avoid these monitors. They do not have HDCP which will be required to view retail HD content in HD resolution using windows vista. Instead of being able to watch retail HD content in up to 1920x1080, it will be downsampled to the low dvd res of around 700x500 when watching in vista. Of course you'll also need a graphics card that supports this. ATI now has in footnotes on thier spec pages for thier cards that HDCP "ready" graphics cards will require an additional add in card to be able to play HDCP content.
If this is a concern to you, then wait for the next gen dell LCDs (I think it will be called 2407 for the 24") that will support HDCP, or just avoid windows vista for a while (my preferred solution).
 
Originally posted by: Devistater
Spotted on SD front page

Dell Home has Dell 2001FP LCD for $458 less $60 coupon ***** less $25 coupon ***** (when you use Dell Preferred Account to pay) for a final price of $373.

They also have Dell 2405FPW Widescreen LCD monitor for $ 798 less $60 coupon ***** less $25 coupon ***** (when you use Dell Preferred Account to pay) for a final price of $713. Shipping for either is free, tax is charged for some.
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Coupons are over at SD front page.
If you dont use a dell preferred account to pay with, its $398 and $738 from not using the $25 coupon.
This is the lowest price on the dell LCD monitors that its been for some time now. Most of the good dell deals were 6+ months ago. But looks like we are finally getting some decent deals again.

BTW, if you plan on upgrading to windows Vista and a HD DVD or a blu ray drive in your computer in the near future (I advise against Vista personally at least until SP1 lol) you may want to avoid these monitors. They do not have HDCP which will be required to view retail HD content in HD resolution using windows vista. Instead of being able to watch retail HD content in up to 1920x1080, it will be downsampled to the low dvd res of around 700x500 when watching in vista. Of course you'll also need a graphics card that supports this. ATI now has in footnotes on thier spec pages for thier cards that HDCP "ready" graphics cards will require an additional add in card to be able to play HDCP content.
If this is a concern to you, then wait for the next gen dell LCDs (I think it will be called 2407 for the 24") that will support HDCP, or just avoid windows vista for a while (my preferred solution).
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Over at where?
 
I've been waiting a long time for prices to get down this low, but it took too long. This is good news though, because hopefully they're trying to get rid of the 2405's and the new 2407's are in.
 
Originally posted by: RyBoy
I've been waiting a long time for prices to get down this low, but it took too long. This is good news though, because hopefully they're trying to get rid of the 2405's and the new 2407's are in.
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:thumbsup:
 
Too slow for games with either - no HDCP with either- lag and poor veiwing angles on 2405 would make me think twice if this was hot or not..
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Too slow for games with either - no HDCP with either- lag and poor veiwing angles on 2405 would make me think twice if this was hot or not..
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You're serious? Obviously you've never had either of these monitors as you'd definetly be speaking otherwise if you had. I haven't owned a 2001fp myself but the 2405fpw is great with games. Had 2 7800gtx's in SLI on one...no lag what so ever in any of the 'top' games (COD2, BF2, FEAR, etc).

Try one out yourself then talk...
 
Originally posted by: czech09
Originally posted by: Zebo
Too slow for games with either - no HDCP with either- lag and poor veiwing angles on 2405 would make me think twice if this was hot or not..
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You're serious? Obviously you've never had either of these monitors as you'd definetly be speaking otherwise if you had. I haven't owned a 2001fp myself but the 2405fpw is great with games. Had 2 7800gtx's in SLI on one...no lag what so ever in any of the 'top' games (COD2, BF2, FEAR, etc).

Try one out yourself then talk...
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Hey I can't help it if you're blind - don't lash out because you have a disability we all have problems. I own the Dell 2001FP it sux compared to my 2005 or my NEC. The 2405 sux worse. Don't take my word for it.


http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review-dell-2405fpw.html

Quote: "In spite of Overdrive, the Dell 2405FPW showed a low but still perceivable amount of ghosting in fast paced games i.e. the first person shooter Half-Life?. Motion blurring, too, which due to the underlying technological principle all LCD displays show, became apparent. While we surely don?t want to mark out the 2405FPW as being unsuitable for gaming, we would reckon the rather picky natures among gamers to be disappointed by it.

The 2405FPW is not recommendable for hardcore gamers. If you consiTheyourself part of this target group and if your are in the market for a widescreen display you?re probably going to have to wait a little longer since, in terms of responsiveness, there is currently no widescreen display available that could compete with the fastest of displays, such as the ViewSonic VX924 for example. As for occasional gamers, given the respective individual demands, the Dell 2405FPW?s performance is most likely going to turn out as sufficient."

http://www.behardware.com/articles/567-1/23-and-24-lcd-monitors-roundup.html

Quote: "It is time for the Samsung engineers to wake up. Or is it the Korean marketing department? This 16 ms monitor, 8 ms according to Samsung, and the 16 ms PVA Dell 1704V doesn?t provide better results than the 25 ms tested here during the last few years.

Of course, playing World of Warcraft with this monitor is extraordinary. If you have a very good graphic card, playing in 1920 x 1200 is a real pleasure. It is hard to come back to smaller monitors. But for Unreal or other FPS it is another story. If the character is static, we can only admire the contrast, color quality, precision of the shapes (at least with the standard resolution). If you move your mouse, it ruins everything. There is an afterglow and this is quite unbearable for really fast game fans.

You will, however, get used to this afterglow in time. It is disturbing but it all depends on the level of quality you require. In this respect, our requirements are probably too high and surely above average. Especially when a manufacturer announces an 8 ms response time that is supposedly perfect for all games. But we regularly receive readers? comment saying that they aren?t disturbed by this effect, which seems horrible to us, and that they don?t even see what we are talking about. Anyway, now you know what we think of this monitor as regards fast games. "

 
I own a 2001fp, I love it. Ditched my 21"crt finally after owning my 2001 for over a year (I couldn't bear to look at the display anymore, DVI>VGA). Running solo, might pickup another 2001 with this deal though.
I'm pretty picky, hl2, fear, q4, bf2 all look beautiful on it and my 7800gt.
 
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
I own a 2001fp, I love it. Ditched my 21"crt finally after owning my 2001 for over a year (I couldn't bear to look at the display anymore, DVI>VGA). Running solo, might pickup another 2001 with this deal though.
I'm pretty picky, hl2, fear, q4, bf2 all look beautiful on it and my 7800gt.
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The 2001FP *was* a very good display.. S-IPS, but it's two generations old. Last Gen was like the 2005FPW panel, a bit faster S-IPS.. this generation is AS-IPS Dell does'nt use yet. The 2001 is the hotter deal of the two even so since there is no input lag.
 
Zebo is right on, this lcd is outdated but still a decent price for a 20". I own the Syncmaster 191t Paid $750 3 years ago and love it but it is also outdated I would like to upgrade to something better than i have but no idea what to look for. I am starting to get black spots on the top of my screen.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
I own a 2001fp, I love it. Ditched my 21"crt finally after owning my 2001 for over a year (I couldn't bear to look at the display anymore, DVI>VGA). Running solo, might pickup another 2001 with this deal though.
I'm pretty picky, hl2, fear, q4, bf2 all look beautiful on it and my 7800gt.
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The 2001FP *was* a very good display.. S-IPS, but it's two generations old. Last Gen was like the 2005FPW panel, a bit faster S-IPS.. this generation is AS-IPS Dell does'nt use yet. The 2001 is the hotter deal of the two even so since there is no input lag.
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You make some good points however for a monitor that's not widescreen and very affordable I don't see much on the market that's in the arena that will compete with the 2001fp, of course I don't keep up much anymore to keep the upgrade bug away so if you've got some suggestions let's hear it. Value for your dollar I don't see any other alternatives for a quality 20", unless you are looking to spend above $600 and then it begs the question of why not spring for the 24". I guess it all comes down to how much are you willing to pay for quality?


 
Don't wait for the 2407, just get this. You aren't going to get the 2407 for a price like this a long time. HDCP becoming a necessity is so far in the future and even if it does, I'm sure there will be plenty of ways around it. Great deal, great monitor. If you have any intention of going 24" this is the best chance you'll have a in a long time.
 
The 2405 has more delay (not response time) than some other LCDs!

CRT vs LCD lag time compared

I own a 2405 and use it to play most FPS games on it. I'm not sure if it's much better or worse than my Samsung 710T, but this is something to consider when buying a LCD.
 
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
I own a 2001fp, I love it. Ditched my 21"crt finally after owning my 2001 for over a year (I couldn't bear to look at the display anymore, DVI>VGA). Running solo, might pickup another 2001 with this deal though.
I'm pretty picky, hl2, fear, q4, bf2 all look beautiful on it and my 7800gt.
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The 2001FP *was* a very good display.. S-IPS, but it's two generations old. Last Gen was like the 2005FPW panel, a bit faster S-IPS.. this generation is AS-IPS Dell does'nt use yet. The 2001 is the hotter deal of the two even so since there is no input lag.
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You make some good points however for a monitor that's not widescreen and very affordable I don't see much on the market that's in the arena that will compete with the 2001fp, of course I don't keep up much anymore to keep the upgrade bug away so if you've got some suggestions let's hear it. Value for your dollar I don't see any other alternatives for a quality 20", unless you are looking to spend above $600 and then it begs the question of why not spring for the 24". I guess it all comes down to how much are you willing to pay for quality?
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I'd check out the LG L2000C - 6-8 ms AS-IPS for $500 from ewiz if wanting a 16x12. Of course if you're not a gamer both these dell monitors are killer deals but I already mentioned that.
 
The $60 coupon seems to already have expired earlier today. Maybe it was one of the silly "only so many uses" type Dell coupons. You never know what second they'll evaporate! I guess it's good too as Dell has made the decision for me not to order one (second time this has happened!) and saved me from overspending. It's sort of disappointing at the same time though.

One question; will monitors like the 2405 be discontinued when the new 2407 model comes out? I heard the 1905fp might be discontinued for this reason. I sure hope Dell will continue to offer the similar old models when the new upgrades are introduced as I won't be affording the fancy new ones. It's encouraging to see the ever increasing numbers of LCD models and brands being offered today that are helping drop prices off a cliff. 😎


PS: Dell, please note that the coupons that seem to expire at any time can leave customers with a sense of a "lack of control" in the order process. It might work better to give a definite date and time of coupon expiration.
 
Originally posted by: skywhr
I just bought the 24" whats the best agp video card for it...?
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Well depends on how much money you want to spend. Goto newegg.com and pick video cards, then pick AGP.
Sort to highest price, page down past the quadro and fire cards (they are for professional graphics workstations, and are NOT good for gamers).
The nvidia 7800 GS is a bit under $400, and thats about the best AGP at the moment.

My question is: If you are going to spend so much money on a graphics card, why get one for a rapidly growing obsolete interface? Why not upgrade the motherboard to one that has PCI express? If you have $400 in cash just for a vid card, why not just use a couple hundred more and upgrade the motherboard and cpu? For probably $200 or so you can get a AMD64 and a nice nforce 4 pci-express motherboard with built in sound and gigabit network. You can reuse your DDR memory (if you have DDR right now), and your hard drive, and everything else.

And if you dont want to spend so much, then clarify with a reply that says how much you want to spend 🙂 Like "what is the best AGP card under $200" 🙂
 
If these things are going to be phasing out soon, can we maybe get a pinned thread to this? This monitor is by far one of the hottest items on forums like this.

Hey moderator, can we maybe get a pinned topic and have it clipped from other posts to just show the top deal? It sounds like it's going to be an exciting summer trying to get this thing for less than $700. The second it hits this price again I'm financing one.
 
Looking @ the ATI RADEON X1300 PRO 256MB AGP Graphics Card

Originally posted by: Devistater
Originally posted by: skywhr
I just bought the 24" whats the best agp video card for it...?
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Well depends on how much money you want to spend. Goto newegg.com and pick video cards, then pick AGP.
Sort to highest price, page down past the quadro and fire cards (they are for professional graphics workstations, and are NOT good for gamers).
The nvidia 7800 GS is a bit under $400, and thats about the best AGP at the moment.

My question is: If you are going to spend so much money on a graphics card, why get one for a rapidly growing obsolete interface? Why not upgrade the motherboard to one that has PCI express? If you have $400 in cash just for a vid card, why not just use a couple hundred more and upgrade the motherboard and cpu? For probably $200 or so you can get a AMD64 and a nice nforce 4 pci-express motherboard with built in sound and gigabit network. You can reuse your DDR memory (if you have DDR right now), and your hard drive, and everything else.

And if you dont want to spend so much, then clarify with a reply that says how much you want to spend 🙂 Like "what is the best AGP card under $200" 🙂
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