No. The motherboard has a fan sensor and will halt on bootup if it detects a slow/no fan... and the fan connector is propriotary. I'm sure you could fake it if you really wanted to (i would suspect using either a crystal oscillator to fake the RPM reading?)
according to the dell forum up above you can change the fan
you just have to hit "F1" with every boot up acknowledging the fan is dead.
may not be a big deal if you leavel the computer on all the time.
This is definately a big deal if you have this box in a datacenter and use remote powercyclers... but then again, if it's in a datacenter, you don't care how loud it is anyway
On the Customize page for XEON DELL 1600SC
On the Hard Drive option, there are CABLE SCSI or HOT-SWAP SCSI
What's the difference?
Don't forget to combine with Ebates or FatCash or Amex Gold Business.
On the Hard Drive option, there are CABLE SCSI or HOT-SWAP SCSI
What's the difference?
Don't forget to combine with Ebates or FatCash or Amex Gold Business.
Different deal, different thread
But anyway, the difference is that with "CABLE SCSI", the drives are all connected to a SCSI cable. In order to remove the drive, you must open the case, disconnect the power and cable (if LVD) or just the cable (if SCA), and then remove the drive. With HOT-SWAP, you can simply pull the drive out from the front without opening the case or anything. It's convenient if you'd like to dual boot with different physical drives.
about the fan noise.. i think using the 7volt mod and then stealing the reading off one of the other fans in the case might do the trick? I don't know... i'll play with it when it gets here.
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Dell changed it... PowerEdge 600SC, Intel Celeron, 1.8GHz, 128K Cache, 400Mhz FSB, w/Floppy
I guess they figured out a celeron was not running at 533 mhz...
Anyway. I think this is a great deal... 360 bucks after cupon.
Plus, if you had to buy 240Gig's worth of HD Space... That would cost you at least 220 bucks...
So, 150 bux for the box? That isn't bad at all! And doing a fan swap? How hard is that? I'm sure the stupid counter for the dell fan can't be much diffrence then a antec fan. But, if I can't get it to work hitting F1 every time I need to reboot the server isn't going to kill me!
I wouldn't consider going with a faster CPU or SCSI drives... Only if you were really going to TAX the system, but for home use? NAH! This is perfect... Don't get the extended warrantey... Kills the deal... Take the 100 bucks over the ram...
I plan on using mine for MP3's, MPEG-DVD's, Web Server expermentation... I just got a copy of GameDrive... It puts virtual copies of your games so you don't need to have them in your CD ROM. Plus, you can back up your computer... printserver...etc..etc..
Could I make a file server like this? Sure... I could use my old T-bird box. But... It wouldn't be as cool to say you have a server at home... Plus this already comes with a Gigbit either connection. Time to another Gig Nic and then you can pretty much have a super fast link to the server...As for Server Software? Windows NT Server edition goes for cheap on E-Bay... Tho, I'm gonna probably install win2000 server... Don't forget you can use terminal emulator to run the server. So, no need to keep it hooked up to a monitor... Unless you wanted to..
I guess they figured out a celeron was not running at 533 mhz...
Anyway. I think this is a great deal... 360 bucks after cupon.
Plus, if you had to buy 240Gig's worth of HD Space... That would cost you at least 220 bucks...
So, 150 bux for the box? That isn't bad at all! And doing a fan swap? How hard is that? I'm sure the stupid counter for the dell fan can't be much diffrence then a antec fan. But, if I can't get it to work hitting F1 every time I need to reboot the server isn't going to kill me!
I wouldn't consider going with a faster CPU or SCSI drives... Only if you were really going to TAX the system, but for home use? NAH! This is perfect... Don't get the extended warrantey... Kills the deal... Take the 100 bucks over the ram...
I plan on using mine for MP3's, MPEG-DVD's, Web Server expermentation... I just got a copy of GameDrive... It puts virtual copies of your games so you don't need to have them in your CD ROM. Plus, you can back up your computer... printserver...etc..etc..
Could I make a file server like this? Sure... I could use my old T-bird box. But... It wouldn't be as cool to say you have a server at home... Plus this already comes with a Gigbit either connection. Time to another Gig Nic and then you can pretty much have a super fast link to the server...As for Server Software? Windows NT Server edition goes for cheap on E-Bay...
Tho, I'm gonna probably install win2000 server... Don't forget you can use terminal emulator to run the server. So, no need to keep it hooked up to a monitor... Unless you wanted to..
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Yes it does. I just orderd this.... Dunno, sometimes I wish I didn't come here to read all these hot deals...
Anyone know who makes the 120Gig 7200RPM drives? I hope it's Western Digital!
3 year warranty on the drives if so!
Specs and 3D Views of Inside of Case / MotherBoard/ Fans. etc...etc..
No wonder that fan in the back is noisy... Looks like it is pretty beefy.
Originally posted by: ericlp
Anyone know who makes the 120Gig 7200RPM drives? I hope it's Western Digital!
Guh -- that's probably the first time I've ever heard anyone WANT western digital in a server...
Hello, Mr. Unreliable. Meet Mr. Critical Data. Have fun now.
I'd be far far FAR away from this deal if those drives turned out to be WD. I got the 2x36GB SCSI drives though, so let's see what happens...
Originally posted by: linuxthinker
Originally posted by: ericlp
Anyone know who makes the 120Gig 7200RPM drives? I hope it's Western Digital!
Guh -- that's probably the first time I've ever heard anyone WANT western digital in a server...
Hello, Mr. Unreliable. Meet Mr. Critical Data. Have fun now.
I'd be far far FAR away from this deal if those drives turned out to be WD. I got the 2x36GB SCSI drives though, so let's see what happens...
Um actually Western Digital has been making some of the better drives for about the past year (in terms of reliability AND performance). Now if those 120gb drivers were IBM, then I'd be worried
Originally posted by: BigJ2078
Originally posted by: linuxthinker
Originally posted by: ericlp
Anyone know who makes the 120Gig 7200RPM drives? I hope it's Western Digital!
Guh -- that's probably the first time I've ever heard anyone WANT western digital in a server...
Hello, Mr. Unreliable. Meet Mr. Critical Data. Have fun now.
I'd be far far FAR away from this deal if those drives turned out to be WD. I got the 2x36GB SCSI drives though, so let's see what happens...
Um actually Western Digital has been making some of the better drives for about the past year (in terms of reliability AND performance). Now if those 120gb drivers were IBM, then I'd be worried
IBM's reputation in the server market (SCSI Drives included) has been unquestioned... they definately know what they're doing in that sector. WD on the other hand... eh... their Enterprise drives are really disappointments more than anything else.
Western Digital doesn't make SCSI drives anymore. They are now focused entirely on IDE drives. (Check the product line on their corporate website.)
I agree they're pretty successful in the IDE market. They never were really successful in the SCSI market when they used to make SCSI drives.
I agree they're pretty successful in the IDE market. They never were really successful in the SCSI market when they used to make SCSI drives.
But even for IDE drives, I've always preferred Maxtor because they usually have much better seek time than WD drives. For example, in the database at storagereview, the read service time of the 160GB Maxtor Diamondmax 9 8MB drive is more than a full millisecond faster than WD1200JB. (12.4ms vs. 13.5ms)
Throughput can be improved by striping multiple drives (RAID 0). But service time cannot be improved in any way AFAIK. So if you buy a drive that has a poor service time, that's it, you're stuck.
Throughput can be improved by striping multiple drives (RAID 0). But service time cannot be improved in any way AFAIK. So if you buy a drive that has a poor service time, that's it, you're stuck.
for those of you wondering how loud this thing gets...
i ordered one about a month ago for my company.
having dealt with compaq servers, i recommended a space in our closet for 600sc's new home.
but when it arrived and i hooked up everything, to my great surprise,
it was much quieter than i expected.
exactly how quiet?
let's just say that i was disappointed.
i expected it's presence would dominate and rule over all the other macs in our company.
(my company is an apple crazed firm)
but next to a G4 box, i couldn't tell whether 600sc was on or not.
600sc doesn't have the same presence as compaq servers.
but, it's been solid since its arrival.
an awesome deal under 300.
i ordered one about a month ago for my company.
having dealt with compaq servers, i recommended a space in our closet for 600sc's new home.
but when it arrived and i hooked up everything, to my great surprise,
it was much quieter than i expected.
exactly how quiet?
let's just say that i was disappointed.
i expected it's presence would dominate and rule over all the other macs in our company.
(my company is an apple crazed firm)
but next to a G4 box, i couldn't tell whether 600sc was on or not.
600sc doesn't have the same presence as compaq servers.
but, it's been solid since its arrival.
an awesome deal under 300.
LOL or the old Vax 4400 and 4600
they have a fan in them that is about 2 foot in diameter.
The IBM boxes kick of some heat!!!!!
they have a fan in them that is about 2 foot in diameter.
The IBM boxes kick of some heat!!!!!
Originally posted by: linuxthinker
Ah, it's good to know that they finally quit what they suck at
You are obviously comparing apples and oranges here. In the IDE field WD drives are beyond reproach. Ordering the SC600 with scsi does not really make sense to me either - unless you just wanna keep the drives. For a SCSI system I would spring for the SC1600.
Yo
Originally posted by: Yo2
Originally posted by: linuxthinker
Ah, it's good to know that they finally quit what they suck at
You are obviously comparing apples and oranges here. In the IDE field WD drives are beyond reproach. Ordering the SC600 with scsi does not really make sense to me either - unless you just wanna keep the drives. For a SCSI system I would spring for the SC1600.
Yo
The SC1600 uses a 400MHz FSB. If you're only getting 1 CPU, you're better off with the SC600 with the 533MHz FSB. With what I'm paying for on the SC1600, I'd like to have 533MHz fsb if I buy a dualie system.
Originally posted by: linuxthinker
Originally posted by: Yo2
Originally posted by: linuxthinker
Ah, it's good to know that they finally quit what they suck at
You are obviously comparing apples and oranges here. In the IDE field WD drives are beyond reproach. Ordering the SC600 with scsi does not really make sense to me either - unless you just wanna keep the drives. For a SCSI system I would spring for the SC1600.
Yo
The SC1600 uses a 400MHz FSB. If you're only getting 1 CPU, you're better off with the SC600 with the 533MHz FSB. With what I'm paying for on the SC1600, I'd like to have 533MHz fsb if I buy a dualie system.
I doubt that they are 400MHz - Dell is just not good at updating their website with the "details" 533MHz XEONs are available since November 2002 and in speeds from 2GHz through 2.8. I'd be surprised if the SC1600 had an old processor/chipset.
Yo
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