Ok maybe I am retarded but im using the DVI input and I am not able to adjust the contrast....birghtness I can adjust fine...is this normal? The contrast bar is greyed out like maybe im not supposed to be able to adjust it since im using DVI but that seems weird to me....anyone else notice this? Is it normal? Never used an LCD on a DVI connection before so maybe im just a DVI newb but it seems odd.....
When you use DVI, the contrast is greyed out.
This monitor is bright, i have mine turned down to 15 on the brightness scale. It definitely has that light leakage at the top right during full screen DVDs(room lights are off also). Other than that the monitor seems great. I guess I will wait a week to see what other users are experiencing with their panels.
This monitor is bright, i have mine turned down to 15 on the brightness scale. It definitely has that light leakage at the top right during full screen DVDs(room lights are off also). Other than that the monitor seems great. I guess I will wait a week to see what other users are experiencing with their panels.
You're right about the monitor's brightness. I have the brightness at '0' and it's still plenty bright. I reduced the contrast slightly using the video card drivers. Both ati and nvidia have separate settings for both the desktop and full screen 3d apps.
Well I jumped in and purchased one as well. I hate these Hot Deals! My wife is going to divorce me but at least I will have a nice monitor to use during those lonely nights.
* I also called in my order and when I asked them for another discount beyond the 25% they said they couldnt do any better but did offer me free overnight shipping. I took it with glee.
Cheers,
* I also called in my order and when I asked them for another discount beyond the 25% they said they couldnt do any better but did offer me free overnight shipping. I took it with glee.
Cheers,
Update: My order was placed around 5:30 EST on Saturday and apparently left Dell this morning. I called them to change from the free 3-5 day shipping to next day and they told me it left this morning. I haven't gotten a shipping confirmation email yet, and the Dell.com order status still shows it in production, but they say it's on the way.
Here's hoping I don't have some of the issues other people are seeing, though I suspect I can live with a little bit of backlight leakage. I had quite a bit of that on my old SGI 1600SW before I replaced it with an 1800FP.
Here's hoping I don't have some of the issues other people are seeing, though I suspect I can live with a little bit of backlight leakage. I had quite a bit of that on my old SGI 1600SW before I replaced it with an 1800FP.
I looked at the link above to Anand's review and my 2001 shows basically the exact same amount of whitishness that that screen shot shows.
I played about 3 hours of America's Army last night with it and never noticed it. I basically only notice it with an all black background and even then it's not too bad.
I'm ordering a 2nd one and we'll see if it's any different.
I played about 3 hours of America's Army last night with it and never noticed it. I basically only notice it with an all black background and even then it's not too bad.
I'm ordering a 2nd one and we'll see if it's any different.
The Nokia Tester is pretty good. If you want just a dead pixel checker though, the original deadpix.exe is still the best and it's the easiest to use. http://www.edgeworld.com/notebook/old/dead.htm Black usually shows the dead pixels faster than any other color. This does red, green ,blue, black, as well as custom colors.
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got mine today
could not immediatly get a signal from the dvi connector so i used the rgb
after changing the settings on the video card to 75hz the 1600x1200 mode came up
although i thought it did 1600x1200 at 75hz the radeon 9800 pro says only goes up to 60hz.
anyone else who bought the monitor get it to goto 75hz?
no dead pixels, no white area on upper right, even when black.
=)
did notice a fair amount of ghosting on desktop icons when using the vga connector.
of course that went away when i got the dvi connection working.
pete
could not immediatly get a signal from the dvi connector so i used the rgb
after changing the settings on the video card to 75hz the 1600x1200 mode came up
although i thought it did 1600x1200 at 75hz the radeon 9800 pro says only goes up to 60hz.
anyone else who bought the monitor get it to goto 75hz?
no dead pixels, no white area on upper right, even when black.
=)
did notice a fair amount of ghosting on desktop icons when using the vga connector.
of course that went away when i got the dvi connection working.
pete
Okay just got mine hooked up on dvi. 1 dead pixel in far upper right (not annoying barely noticable on grey background). The white area in the upper right portion is barely noticable and only on pure black. It isn't nearly as bad as the pictures from ANand's review. I really can only see it when I turn off all the lights and actually look for it. If no one pointed it out honestly I'd have never seen it. I haven't tried any gaming yet and as a matter of fact haven't even truley unpacked the thing yet. It still have plasitc on it lol.. I was almost certain I'd have to send it back due to other users comments about the white area so I didtn't wanna take anything off or open anything that I didn't have to. The monitor is stunning imho. I was used to a 19" Sony g400 prior. I'd sy the colors and crispness on this thing blows it away. Everything is there with this monitor. Color, contrast, vibrancy, deep blacks, white whites sharp fonts you name it.
Oh btw this was an October mfg date monitor. SOrry about paragraph formatting and spelling. I wrote this quick and wanted to let you guys know. In short white area: confined to far far upper right corner and barely even noticable at all.
Okay just played a quick game of Halo at 1600. NO GHOSTING AT ALL! I dont know how Anand got those pics because I tried everything I could to get this thing to ghost. Nothing at all! Beautiful monitor.
Oh btw this was an October mfg date monitor. SOrry about paragraph formatting and spelling. I wrote this quick and wanted to let you guys know. In short white area: confined to far far upper right corner and barely even noticable at all.
Okay just played a quick game of Halo at 1600. NO GHOSTING AT ALL! I dont know how Anand got those pics because I tried everything I could to get this thing to ghost. Nothing at all! Beautiful monitor.
well the NEC monitor based on the same panel as in our Dells is now available at amazon.com
NEC LCD2080UX+
i dont think we did bad considering this thing is double the price of the Dell NEC LCD2080UX+
NEC LCD2080UX+
i dont think we did bad considering this thing is double the price of the Dell NEC LCD2080UX+
LCD's don't have refresh rates, they have response times. Similar analogy maybe, but completely different things. A typical LCD panel will show up in Windows Display control panel as running at 60 Hertz but it's irrelevant. You can change it to 85 or 100 Hertz but you'll see no difference in the display. Leave it at 60 Hertz and enjoy the picture.
i ordered one, should be on the way, hopefully here soon. i too have a planar pl201m which i'm using now. i was ready to put it on ebay. now after reading all the complaints, i think i'll do a side by side comparison first and decide which one to keep.
Just got my monitor - decent, but not awesome.
I know what others mean by the graininess - not sure if it's the screen, the nature of (this?) LCD display, etc. I'll have to compare it to my 20" Cinema display at work to be sure.
Response time kills the 19" "25ms" Mag I have on my desk - what a piece of junk!
3 stuck on pixels
1 dead pixel (in the same place os one of the stuck on ones, too!)
-Dan
I know what others mean by the graininess - not sure if it's the screen, the nature of (this?) LCD display, etc. I'll have to compare it to my 20" Cinema display at work to be sure.
Response time kills the 19" "25ms" Mag I have on my desk - what a piece of junk!
3 stuck on pixels
1 dead pixel (in the same place os one of the stuck on ones, too!)
-Dan
This is a 1600x1200 display. If you are running that resolution using a DVI cable, there is no "grain". Activating XP's LCD font smoothing also helps quite a bit for any LCD if you're not used to using an LCD monitor.
If you're trying to run any resolution other than 1600x1200 then all bets are off - LCDs should be run at their native resolution. If you can't - next best is 800x600 (1/2)
If you're trying to run any resolution other than 1600x1200 then all bets are off - LCDs should be run at their native resolution. If you can't - next best is 800x600 (1/2)
I ordered two of them this last week. One Monday, one Wednesday. I got the one I ordered Monday today and it's perfect, no dead pixels, no white light.
The other one I should get Friday or Monday.
The other one I should get Friday or Monday.
Well I cancelled my first order that I made on saturday because it seemed to be stuck in pre production with an estimated ship date 0f 12/22. So I ordered it again on Monday night and had an estimated ship date of 12/29 which i was going to cancel this evening and when i checked it said Status: In tranit to local carrier.
So I guess I will be viewing one of these fairly soon, hope there are no dead pixels or bright spots..
So I guess I will be viewing one of these fairly soon, hope there are no dead pixels or bright spots..
You're half right, only when it's connected to a DVI does it not have a refresh. Then the videocard is directly telling it what pixels to be turn on/off, then your "refresh" depends on your responce time... When your using a VGA/Dsub connection, the videocard sends the singal at the refresh your set at, and like I said before it doesn't matter if you have a 1ms responce time, your card isn't sending enough information for it to display...
you're completely wrong. people have specifically stated they are running dvi, 1600x1200, and it appears grainy. I am one, and there are many others.
The problems that have been discussed aren't b/c the users aren't using dvi...the majority of them are.
hehe thanks for the info no refresh rates and dvi
by the way, thought i had some dead pixels, but i just touched them, and i think they were dust or something because they went away.
=)
mine is the same production run as the other guy who had no white problem and no dead pixles.
a dead pixel is basically a dot that wont change color? is off, or is on all the time?
pete
by the way, thought i had some dead pixels, but i just touched them, and i think they were dust or something because they went away.
=)
mine is the same production run as the other guy who had no white problem and no dead pixles.
a dead pixel is basically a dot that wont change color? is off, or is on all the time?
pete
Yeah - what he said!
. The "Grain" is the visible 1600x1200 grid that the pixels are on - similar to the old Trinitron 1 or 2 wires that were horizontal. It almost looks BETTER at 1280x1024, to be honest! (The scaling at all resolutions really looks nice - not blocky like I'm used to).Played an hour or 2 of No One Lives Forever (old version), and can say it's up to snuff for a gaming rig, at least for my slow-mo speed.
But! Is it worth replacing my 22" Diamond Pro CRT? Hmm...
I'm at 7 stuck-on pixels or sub-pixels, and 1 dead one (always off).
-Dan
PS: Good way to check is to pull the DVI cable, and let it go into "screen saver" mode - the stuck-on pixels light up like an x-mas tree!
Dead pixels are always off - best seen with a white screen. Stuck pixels are usually more problematic - they can be any color and are always that color and always are on. These are best seen with blue/green/red screens.
I'm not recommending this, but in the past I've read that a new monitor with dead pixels can sometimes be fixed if you lightly put pressure on that area of the screen. My first dell LCD (2000FP) had 1 dead pixel. I tried that and it didn't seem to work, but I left it on for 2 days on a pure white screen (read that somewhere) and the pixel activated and I haven't had any dead pixels since.
As to the grainy issue, I can't understand what you are seeing - 1600x1200 pixels is 1600x1200 no matter what monitor you're looking at. Could be video card quality?
I'm not recommending this, but in the past I've read that a new monitor with dead pixels can sometimes be fixed if you lightly put pressure on that area of the screen. My first dell LCD (2000FP) had 1 dead pixel. I tried that and it didn't seem to work, but I left it on for 2 days on a pure white screen (read that somewhere) and the pixel activated and I haven't had any dead pixels since.
As to the grainy issue, I can't understand what you are seeing - 1600x1200 pixels is 1600x1200 no matter what monitor you're looking at. Could be video card quality?
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