Dead baseball pilot's widow might not collect on $1.5M insurance

[mugs]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: piasabird
Hard to feel sorry for some millionaire.

It's hard to feel sorry for a millionaire because she is not getting a $1.5 million life insurance payout.

It's not hard to feel sorry for a millionaire who just lost her husband

It's not really about the money now is it?

You could have a 1.5 million dollar life insurance policy too, if you wanted to pay that much for it.

You're just saying it because he is making more money than you, why does that make his widow less qualified to have the coverage that her husband paid for?

Because apparantly the coverage explicitly excluded the exact situation in which he died!

I don't feel sorry that the widow isn't getting this money because
1. She's not entitled to it
2. She's getting plenty to live on from other sources

 

[chuckywang]

I have no idea where I would even go to buy these planes, new or used.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
I have no idea where I would even go to buy these planes, new or used.

http://www.aerotraderonline.com/

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: Syringer
Any time you have a spouse that's in a position to afford a plane finances probably aren't a huge problem.

Technically, you are correct. The problem is, many people that make significant amounts of money can't handle their own finances.

The plane wasn't expensive, only 250k, the price of a sh!tty house.

It's amazing what a person with a reasonable amount of financial sense could afford if they wanted to. You don't need to be an extremely rich to own the plane he was flying.

Wow. And some claim that humans have evolved.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: piasabird
Hard to feel sorry for some millionaire.

It's hard to feel sorry for a millionaire because she is not getting a $1.5 million life insurance payout.

It's not hard to feel sorry for a millionaire who just lost her husband

It's not really about the money now is it?

You could have a 1.5 million dollar life insurance policy too, if you wanted to pay that much for it.

You're just saying it because he is making more money than you, why does that make his widow less qualified to have the coverage that her husband paid for?

Because apparantly the coverage explicitly excluded the exact situation in which he died!

I don't feel sorry that the widow isn't getting this money because
1. She's not entitled to it
2. She's getting plenty to live on from other sources

Then seperate the issues you d!pshit.

If those are your feelings then state 'because she's not entitled to it'..

Theres no need to bring up the fact 'because she's a millionaire', because it has nothing to do with an argument, you just demonstrate your jealousy.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: Syringer
Any time you have a spouse that's in a position to afford a plane finances probably aren't a huge problem.

Technically, you are correct. The problem is, many people that make significant amounts of money can't handle their own finances.

The plane wasn't expensive, only 250k, the price of a sh!tty house.

It's amazing what a person with a reasonable amount of financial sense could afford if they wanted to. You don't need to be an extremely rich to own the plane he was flying.

Wow. And some claim that humans have evolved.

I guess you're a step back huh?

Read the rest of the thread I explained my argument.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: piasabird
Hard to feel sorry for some millionaire.

It's hard to feel sorry for a millionaire because she is not getting a $1.5 million life insurance payout.

It's not hard to feel sorry for a millionaire who just lost her husband

It's not really about the money now is it?

You could have a 1.5 million dollar life insurance policy too, if you wanted to pay that much for it.

You're just saying it because he is making more money than you, why does that make his widow less qualified to have the coverage that her husband paid for?

Because apparantly the coverage explicitly excluded the exact situation in which he died!

I don't feel sorry that the widow isn't getting this money because
1. She's not entitled to it
2. She's getting plenty to live on from other sources

Then seperate the issues you d!pshit.

If those are your feelings then state 'because she's not entitled to it'..

Theres no need to bring up the fact 'because she's a millionaire', because it has nothing to do with an argument, you just demonstrate your jealousy.

lol, you're a fvcktard

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: piasabird
Hard to feel sorry for some millionaire.

It's hard to feel sorry for a millionaire because she is not getting a $1.5 million life insurance payout.

It's not hard to feel sorry for a millionaire who just lost her husband

It's not really about the money now is it?

You could have a 1.5 million dollar life insurance policy too, if you wanted to pay that much for it.

You're just saying it because he is making more money than you, why does that make his widow less qualified to have the coverage that her husband paid for?

Because apparantly the coverage explicitly excluded the exact situation in which he died!

I don't feel sorry that the widow isn't getting this money because
1. She's not entitled to it
2. She's getting plenty to live on from other sources

Then seperate the issues you d!pshit.

If those are your feelings then state 'because she's not entitled to it'..

Theres no need to bring up the fact 'because she's a millionaire', because it has nothing to do with an argument, you just demonstrate your jealousy.

It's not about jealousy asshole. :roll:

She has plenty of money to live on. So I'm not going to feel sorry that she doesn't have more money.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
lol, you're a fvcktard

You said it better than I ever could.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: piasabird
Hard to feel sorry for some millionaire.

It's hard to feel sorry for a millionaire because she is not getting a $1.5 million life insurance payout.

It's not hard to feel sorry for a millionaire who just lost her husband

It's not really about the money now is it?

You could have a 1.5 million dollar life insurance policy too, if you wanted to pay that much for it.

You're just saying it because he is making more money than you, why does that make his widow less qualified to have the coverage that her husband paid for?

Because apparantly the coverage explicitly excluded the exact situation in which he died!

I don't feel sorry that the widow isn't getting this money because
1. She's not entitled to it
2. She's getting plenty to live on from other sources

Then seperate the issues you d!pshit.

If those are your feelings then state 'because she's not entitled to it'..

Theres no need to bring up the fact 'because she's a millionaire', because it has nothing to do with an argument, you just demonstrate your jealousy.

It's not about jealousy asshole. :roll:

She has plenty of money to live on. So I'm not going to feel sorry that she doesn't have more money.

Would you feel the same way if she didn't have a wealthy athlete as a husband?

Of course not.

Humanity is pretty ******.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: slayer202
sorry if this was beaten to death in another thread, but how the hell did they crash with a pilot instructor up there

Obviously it was a problem with a plane.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Would you feel the same way if she didn't have a wealthy athlete as a husband?

Of course not.

What basis do you have for making that assumption? Oh that's right, I'm just a jealous poor person. :roll:

If a poor person's widow was denied a life insurance payout that amounted to a small portion of the poor person's lifetime earnings, and that poor person's widow had adequate means to live for the rest of her life without working, I would shed no tears for that poor person.

You know what's stupid about this whole exchange? You're bashing me for jealousy because of a post that was bashing someone else for apparant jealousy. But you're too fvcking stupid to realize that.

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: skyking

Originally posted by: slayer202
sorry if this was beaten to death in another thread, but how the hell did they crash with a pilot instructor up there

crappy visibility, and some sort of engine failure or other minor distraction.

CRappy visability and a turn that was difficult beyond the pilot's ablity to fly.

According to the commentary I heard, that particular path they were on, has a tight turn as part of it's course and that an inexperienced pilot might find it difficult even in good visibility conditions.

That "tourist track" they were flying just re-opened to VFR traffic.
So no one has had a chance to fly it, save in simulators since 2001.

It's a published VFR corridor. There is nothing difficult about making the turns. Flying it in bad weather is an absolute no go, and I blame the instructor onboard for not 'loaning' the pilot some judgement when it appeared he was running low on it.

 

[Itchrelief]

Um, I have no sympathy for not being able to cash in on a million dollar insurance policy even if your husband died WHEN:

1)You KNEW your husband was a pilot, which is a somewhat risky endeavor.

2)You KNEW, or SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, that your $1 million dollar insurance policy specifically states that it does NOT cover aviation accidents when the deceased is the pilot.

For all I know, the lady may not even be thinking about trying to claim the insurance money, knowing full well that she will most likely be rejected.

I'm sorry her husband died, but sorry, no sympathies on not being able to claim the insurance money. She should have known the fine print and got supplemental policy or nagged him to not pilot anymore.

The article may be assuming, but it lists the other person in the plane with him as the flight instructor, not the pilot or another term that would seem to connote that Lidle was being flown somewhere by someone else a la a chauffeur in a car. I really think it would be hard to argue that even if not at the controls the minute the plane crashed into the building, he certainly set out to get some flight time with himself at the controls. I think it is somewhat akin to going out for driver training in a car that has two duplicate sets of controls (pedals, steering wheels, etc). Sure you can argue that perhaps at some arbitrary moment the instructor may have taken over the controls to try to correct some egregiously dangerous situation or show the student how to do something, but the whole point of being in the vehicle as such is for the student to be learning and controlling.

I think this is a similar situation to having your new $50 million dollar pro sports contract voided because you went out and crashed your sportbike the day after signing the deal and suffered career-ending injuries. You or your agent/lawyers should have known that the contract has a clause stating motorcycle use is prohibited. That you went out and rode one anyway makes me have no sympathy for the loss of money, not the fact that had you been financially responsible, you as a pro athlete had probably made some decent money before and should be able to live the rest of your life like any non-athlete Joe Schmo even without getting another job.