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BarkingGhostar

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Man, did Activision really go off the deep end on Friday night? Maybe it is just the Xbox 360 version, but what they did as a software patch simply made the game unplayable. Their reported update was to increase system stability by accusing and then booting anyone that isn't constantly running around as 'inactive player'.

So, I'm sitting in a spot--any spot--scanning left, right, up and down, shooting, killing and enjoying my chuckles, and BAM! Booted for inactivity. Worse yet, I am booted from my party, too. And then another party friend has this happen and within the games first 5 minutes all but one are booted.

We gave up after an hour on Friday night and last night the very first engagement we gave up. I have not officially deactivated Activision from my life. When they change the game to a point like this it is like mugging someone. I would have never bought the game under this condition--and Activision knows this.

This game is now only for those ignoring tactics and simply running around like a Halo environment with just a bunch of ADHD kids on crack.
 

Dsmtalonkid

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I like the game on 360, when it works.
I've never had this many problems with any game, causing my Xbox to freeze all the time, connection lost to host, sign in status changed, and disconnected from Xbox live.
I'm happy when I get to successfully play 2 or 3 matches in a row without any of that happening lol, pretty sad.
 

Lil Frier

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I wish some games had this, to be honest. Halo 5 could really use it for reported AFK turds, especially in Warzone. It sounds like Activision did a terrible job implementing it, though.
 

BarkingGhostar

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The group I play with have all agreed that the 360 version of this game is the worse we've seen of any FPS game we've ever played. And instead of them fixing something they made it unplayable.

I originally left PC gaming because I had hoped the game studios or Microsoft would be hosting the games, instead of relying on a particular player. I think this was the original case, but now that cannot be the case. And the poor host migration process is a joke as its like stepping back in time 15 years.

Conspiracy theory is that this is intended to get folks off of the 360. LOL
 

Lil Frier

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IDK on that. I mean, the game had to strip features to run on the old consoles. That, and host migration issues have been a major problem in CoD for a LOOOOOOOONG time. I can't say if BO3 on XB1 or PS4 uses dedicated servers (I skipped the game after playing the beta), though you'd hope so. How long ago did you leave PC gaming that you thought dedicated servers (which were never really a thing on the last generation) would become a staple on the 360? I don't get that.

Also, it's hard to say what's the worst when I haven't tried it on the 360. It's a pretty crappy game as a whole on XB1, IMO. Still, you're going up against a pretty strong group of crappy games, even within that franchise. I mean, Ghosts might be one of the most-hated multiplayer FPSs of all time, and Battlefield spent months in an unplayably broken state.
 

BarkingGhostar

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I left the PC gaming world when the original Xbox came out. It was with the premise of dedicated gaming servers that got me to make the move, but now I wonder if all the gaming worlds are a lost cause. All I know if that migrating host, lost connection, client told to disconnect by server were the worst in BO3, and this past weekend's update just took gasoline to the fire by said idiot fireman.

And if the same bad/nightmarish examples are on the X1 version of the game then they really did shoot themselves in the foot with the Army of One bullet (meaning multiplayer is dead and only supports individuals running around like a-holes).
 

Tweak155

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I left the PC gaming world when the original Xbox came out. It was with the premise of dedicated gaming servers that got me to make the move, but now I wonder if all the gaming worlds are a lost cause. All I know if that migrating host, lost connection, client told to disconnect by server were the worst in BO3, and this past weekend's update just took gasoline to the fire by said idiot fireman.

And if the same bad/nightmarish examples are on the X1 version of the game then they really did shoot themselves in the foot with the Army of One bullet (meaning multiplayer is dead and only supports individuals running around like a-holes).

Not sure what you mean, the Xbox was user-host based...? Were you under the impression it would be implemented in the future?

Not sure about the current Xbox One, but I know Xbox / 360 was user-host based.
 

Lil Frier

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Not sure what you mean, the Xbox was user-host based...? Were you under the impression it would be implemented in the future?

Not sure about the current Xbox One, but I know Xbox / 360 was user-host based.

XB1 is mostly dedicated servers, though some games didn't follow that route. I think Neverwinter is in-house hosted, and the first CoD or two might have been host-based.
 

BarkingGhostar

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Tweak, then I think my buddies led me to a wrong belief. If the original XBL network never actually hosted game servers and was always left to the end user then the benefit for my original migration never existed. That is sad. I've run servers before on PC, but gaming on servers not run by me were always questionable in terms of cheaters, questionable server admins, etc., which I sought to not have to deal with on XBL.

So, I guess the question is why the hell are we paying for the likes of XBL?
 

Tweak155

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Tweak, then I think my buddies led me to a wrong belief. If the original XBL network never actually hosted game servers and was always left to the end user then the benefit for my original migration never existed. That is sad. I've run servers before on PC, but gaming on servers not run by me were always questionable in terms of cheaters, questionable server admins, etc., which I sought to not have to deal with on XBL.

So, I guess the question is why the hell are we paying for the likes of XBL?

It's unfortunate because I know others that thought the same thing... not sure it wasn't intentional misconception on their part.

The matchmaking is really the experience you were paying for... the service which decided which clients to connect together. In games like Halo 2, it worked really well.

Now (XB1) you have hosted servers according to the poster above and free games every month in addition.
 

Newbian

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They need to phase out support for old consoles some way and this is just another way to force people to upgrade. ;)
 

BarkingGhostar

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It would appear that Activision does not plan on changing their implementation from last weekend. They are telling folks (paraphrasing) "Oh Well". So, you cannot be and act like a sniper, but going prone and not randomly firing on getting up to move location EVERY minute will get you booted for inactivity.

I'm guessing enough ADHD players complained about campers that they trashed the game for those that aren't hip to run around shooting from the hip in a most disorganized manner. Worse yet, Activision seems to have dominated the community discussions segment and if you want to say something you must say it publicly without your personal identity made known to them.

Want to try complaining on Twitter, they now require your phone number, too. Use Google Voice? Same thing. All roads lead back to personally making you known if you are not in mental alignment with their corporations. I will be asking for an official refund as I, and all those I play together with, would have never bought this game had we known this was the result.

It is a clear case of Bait & Switch. People must now run around as if holding a big flag that reads, "Here I am Losers", because that is apparently the closest this franchise will get to real life. Now, I am not looking for financial rewards, but I am looking to punish Activision. If I find a law firm to take on the case, I already have five friends willing to add their names to it and see class status.

Upset am I? Sure, but that would be the response from anyone wanting to enjoy their Friday/Saturday evenings at home and A-holevision ruins it after you given them their money.
 

BarkingGhostar

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BTW, what is Activision's interpretation of Inactivity? It certainly cannot me controller input. If I look about, change stances (standing/kneeling/prone), toss a grenade/flashback, deploy equipment and talking to my teammate in the game how is all of this deemed Inactivity and under penalty Booted both from the match/map AND booted from my teams' game lobby?

This is laughable considering the game is only multiplayer on the 360. It isn't as if I can go play by myself. With myself, yes. By myself, no.
 

Skel

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It would appear that Activision does not plan on changing their implementation from last weekend. They are telling folks (paraphrasing) "Oh Well". So, you cannot be and act like a sniper, but going prone and not randomly firing on getting up to move location EVERY minute will get you booted for inactivity.

I'm guessing enough ADHD players complained about campers that they trashed the game for those that aren't hip to run around shooting from the hip in a most disorganized manner. Worse yet, Activision seems to have dominated the community discussions segment and if you want to say something you must say it publicly without your personal identity made known to them.

Want to try complaining on Twitter, they now require your phone number, too. Use Google Voice? Same thing. All roads lead back to personally making you known if you are not in mental alignment with their corporations. I will be asking for an official refund as I, and all those I play together with, would have never bought this game had we known this was the result.

It is a clear case of Bait & Switch. People must now run around as if holding a big flag that reads, "Here I am Losers", because that is apparently the closest this franchise will get to real life. Now, I am not looking for financial rewards, but I am looking to punish Activision. If I find a law firm to take on the case, I already have five friends willing to add their names to it and see class status.

Upset am I? Sure, but that would be the response from anyone wanting to enjoy their Friday/Saturday evenings at home and A-holevision ruins it after you given them their money.

I really hate myself for asking, but I've got to know... when you say you want to get a lawsuit going.. exactly what damages have you received that would justify a lawsuit? Are you unable to play any other games, including the older CoD? What is preventing you from just playing other games?
 

purbeast0

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while you sound like the worlds biggest baby, i feel your pain OP because SF5 is pretty much online only and it's virtually unplayable almost a week into it's release, and their twitter is full of "we know there are issues we are trying to resolve them" then few hours later "we have resolved the issues let us know if there are more" and this cycle happens like 2-3 times a day. it's gotten worse since launch too.

https://twitter.com/SFVServer
 

Lil Frier

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I really hate myself for asking, but I've got to know... when you say you want to get a lawsuit going.. exactly what damages have you received that would justify a lawsuit? Are you unable to play any other games, including the older CoD? What is preventing you from just playing other games?

It's not a matter of preventing him from playing other games. If anything, it would be that they sold him a game, then put it into a state that it's a fundamentally different product than he payed for. As such, he feels he was misled and sold something worthy of being called false advertising, it would seem.

Whether those complaints are legitimate, I don't know.
 

Skel

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It's not a matter of preventing him from playing other games. If anything, it would be that they sold him a game, then put it into a state that it's a fundamentally different product than he payed for. As such, he feels he was misled and sold something worthy of being called false advertising, it would seem.

Whether those complaints are legitimate, I don't know.

Unless they advertised that they way he plays was a feature, I can't see how they could be doing anything shady.. More so, I'm still struggling to see how he's been damaged in any way enough for a law suit. Aren't changes to the game covered in the Terms of Service anyways? If nerfing stuff was illegal in a way that a lawsuit would have any merit I can't help but feel like it would have been addressed already in other games..
 

digiram

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Is this for real?? I'm pretty dynamic with the way I play. I played alot for about a month or two. Got up to prestige 6 and unlocked all costumes for all Specialists, except for the classified ones. When I was going for diamond with my lmg and AR, I did quite a bit of "camping". What are you supposed to do with an LMG, fly around the map??

New Diablo 3 season came out, and I left off at the smg's. Played here and there, and never noticed a difference. However, I have been playing with nothing other than my smg's. I'm down to 4 hs left with the vesper, then I can complete the other camo's (no attachments and such), and move on to my last smg the pharo (at least I'm at 52 hs with it already).

Anyhow, if this is true.. this really is bs.
 

foghorn67

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There was a major patch on XB1, and it totally made it unstable. I get crash to desktop now...a lot.
I may have to reinstall it.
BTW, I hate jump packs or rocket packs, whatever they are. But this is a much better take on rocket packs than AW's. It is so much better as a shooter knocking someone out of the air, and so much better as someone doing the jumping and shooting someone on the ground or running on walls. I hated doing either in AW. Shooting someone in the air just got hitmakers, I don't think the CoD engine is up to it, honestly. For now, it's improved enough.
That being said, as far as gameplay...I haven't had this much fun since the original BO or MW2. Those are two of my favorites. My K/D was around 1.7 in BO and about 1.5 in MW2...I'm only 1.3 now....but for the first time, it doesn't bother me. I actually love doing most the challenges more than anything.
Sucks its totally unstable.
 

digiram

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There was a major patch on XB1, and it totally made it unstable. I get crash to desktop now...a lot.
I may have to reinstall it.
BTW, I hate jump packs or rocket packs, whatever they are. But this is a much better take on rocket packs than AW's. It is so much better as a shooter knocking someone out of the air, and so much better as someone doing the jumping and shooting someone on the ground or running on walls. I hated doing either in AW. Shooting someone in the air just got hitmakers, I don't think the CoD engine is up to it, honestly. For now, it's improved enough.
That being said, as far as gameplay...I haven't had this much fun since the original BO or MW2. Those are two of my favorites. My K/D was around 1.7 in BO and about 1.5 in MW2...I'm only 1.3 now....but for the first time, it doesn't bother me. I actually love doing most the challenges more than anything.
Sucks its totally unstable.

hmm, haven't played it much at all this week since I've been playing the division and I probably won't be getting the map packs this year because there's too much to play these days. I'm a pretty diehard COD player to. The only other COD that I didn't buy the map packs for was ghost.

Might test things out tonight and see if i start crashing as well though. I'll let you know.

So, far I'm prestige 7, and have gotten diamond on my AR, LMG, and SMG. Think that's about all I'll do as far as camo challenges go. SMG's took too damn long, and I like to mix things up depending on the maps. When doing a challenge, I focus on using the same gun regardless of what map or mode comes up. It's annoying sometimes.

Also, have all of the main outfits unlocked for each specialist. Once you're done with that, you have to do even more challenges to get the classified ones. Some of those challenges were a pain. Like the double kill glitch one. If you plan to do this challenge, I have some advice. Use explosives. I used the c-4 on hunted safeguard. I saved my glitch for when the entire team was in the robot defense area across from the bridge, ran up to them, tossed the c4, glitched, and triggered. got like 5-6 kils from that.. lol. I recorded that to.. haha