DEA to reschedule marijuana?

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Thank you all for resorting to personal attacks as your means of considering the evidence I have posted. Please continue your tantrums. Would you like more fuel for the fire? I can give it.

Nonetheless, if you wish to refute any relationship between cannabis and schizophrenia, please read at least one of the 1024 published medical studies on the subject.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=cannabis+schizophrenia

If you cannot do that, then you are refusing to believe something is even possible merely because you don't want it to be.
 

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Nah, you're just full of shit. Unlike you who has obviously wasted years of your life chasing lies, I'm not going to invest any time into your delusions.

it's scary to think you're a doctor, a claim in which I seriously question.
 

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Nah, you're just full of shit. Unlike you who has obviously wasted years of your life chasing lies, I'm not going to invest any time into your delusions.

it's scary to think you're a doctor, a claim in which I seriously question.

No no I want you to finish. I love a good tantrum.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally Posted by interchange
Which kind of brings me to the point about cannabis overall in terms of what it does. I do not want to discount its effects. It is anxiolytic, analgesic, anti-emetic, and sedative, and lots of people have stress, pain, nausea, and insomnia.

Your point is not correct. And what you say it does cannot be claimed without additional specificity. Which strand of cannabis are you referring to? Without specifying which strand, your statement is false, and if you can't mention specific strands, then you're just admitting you don't know enough to say anything with any kind of authority.
 

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if anybody is curious.

Easily found personal info redacted.

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Self important resident is self important. Go ask your attending what you should say next... DERP
 

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There is zero chance. Obama has been a jackboot for 8 years there is no way he would have any part of this. Most drug offenders serving sentences are in there because of mj. Rescheduling mj would cut the budget justification for police state spending in half. There is no way any good little liberal would ever do something like that, regardless of benefit to society or to taxpayer. That is just not how these people operate. They see any potential spending cut as a threat to their very existence.
 

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There is zero chance. Obama has been a jackboot for 8 years there is no way he would have any part of this. Most drug offenders serving sentences are in there because of mj. Rescheduling mj would cut the budget justification for police state spending in half. There is no way any good little liberal would ever do something like that, regardless of benefit to society or to taxpayer. That is just not how these people operate. They see any potential spending cut as a threat to their very existence.

Oh, please. If Obama were like that he'd have Romney'd CO & WA when we voted for retail cannabis.

But, yeh, I know- it's all Obama's fault. Everything.
 

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There is zero chance. Obama has been a jackboot for 8 years there is no way he would have any part of this. Most drug offenders serving sentences are in there because of mj. Rescheduling mj would cut the budget justification for police state spending in half. There is no way any good little liberal would ever do something like that, regardless of benefit to society or to taxpayer. That is just not how these people operate. They see any potential spending cut as a threat to their very existence.


So Republicans stance on cannabis is what? Both parties cater to big pharma, Alcohol, oil, police state, etc. Quit being delusional that this is a D versus R issue. Wake up!
 

Jhhnn

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So Republicans stance on cannabis is what? Both parties cater to big pharma, Alcohol, oil, police state, etc. Quit being delusional that this is a D versus R issue. Wake up!

While there are a few friends of cannabis among the ranks of Congressional Repubs it's very much a partisan issue.

http://norml.org/states

Click on "medical cbd" to see states where they recently adopted the "we already have MMJ" ploy, as if CBD only preparations are appropriate for more than a tiny fraction of medical users.

It's all based on well cultivated fear of the unknown & whatever rationalizations can be found at the time.

In Colorado, we're dispelling that fear. This is how legalization works & what it looks like, warts & all. The truth is a lot more benign than what the drug warriors claim & very far removed from their predictions.
 

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So Republicans stance on cannabis is what? Both parties cater to big pharma, Alcohol, oil, police state, etc. Quit being delusional that this is a D versus R issue. Wake up!

I would say as a general rule Democrats are far more open to anything marijuana related.
 

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I would say as a general rule Democrats are far more open to anything marijuana related.

I agree with your comment. I was actually supporting Democrats in my response. I would say Democrats could do more and having 8 years of Obama has done nothing on the national stage besides letting states decide what they want to do.
 

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I would say as a general rule Democrats are far more open to anything marijuana related.

I agree with your comment. I was actually supporting Democrats in my response. I would say Democrats could do more and having 8 years of Obama has done nothing on the national stage besides letting states decide what they want to do.

Take a look at Congress & the entrenched drug warrior bureaucracy. Explain what can be done other than at the State level.

Obama's decision to allow State level legalization is huge as was Clinton's decision to allow CA MMJ 20 years ago. Prohibition is snakebit. We'll see a lot of drama & thrashing about in futility but the outcome is inevitable.
 

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I would say as a general rule Democrats are far more open to anything marijuana related.

This. Striking down the federal ban and allowing the states to make up their own individual minds is the kind of small government thinking you would think the party of small government would give a thumbs up to. Nope.
 

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This. Striking down the federal ban and allowing the states to make up their own individual minds is the kind of small government thinking you would think the party of small government would give a thumbs up to. Nope.
Each party has their favorite freedoms.
 
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Is this the same president who increased raids on dispensaries in States that had a legal avenue to canniboids?

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Is this the same president who increased raids on dispensaries in States that had a legal avenue to canniboids?

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He might have been too busy dealing with the wreckage of the Ownership Society to micro-manage the DEA. Or maybe it was to gauge public attitude, see what kind of blowback it caused. It was not positively received.

It's not like he or Holder were any great friends of cannabis. OTOH, they made the right choice over legalization knowing full well that it will ultimately destroy prohibition as we've known it.

Framing it as states rights was a stroke of genius. He stole an authoritarian right wing talking point & made it not about him in one deft stroke. They had to be stunned, sputtering & speechless.
 

Knowing

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He has a phone and a pen. Ken Burns did a solid documentary on prohibition, which I had learned in my schooling was a terrible idea. IIRC, he partook of the herb while he was younger. Good for him pondering stepping away from his left authoritarianism long enough to give the stoners some hope.

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