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Daycare trouble, my 15 month old get bitten 3 times

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Coat the area he tends to get bitten with a bitter agent like what they sell to keep pets from chewing through wires.

 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: alm99
Originally posted by: DesiPower

this is the second day care, we moved him close to my work because of traffic. That day care had its problems too, not with kids but with management and staff. They are all that same, its always going to be something or the other...

Ding, Ding, Ding! Winner!

Is this your first kid? Plan on having more? It's a guarantee that you will experience this between siblings, if it is not biting it will be hitting.

You don't really expect a 15 month old and an 18th month old to know enough to restrain themselves when they are aggravated or frustrated do you?

along sibling maybe.

but a daycare? and the 3rd time? after the 2nd the daycare should be telling the parents of the biting child they are not welcome back.

also they need to have enought staff to be watching a child that bites and takeing messures against it.

3rd time sure it sure does not sound like they are.

You say in your OP that your son was documented twice and now the third time as being the aggressive one by trying to take toys from other kids. Maybe the only way that the other child knows how to cope is to bite back at the other kids? Total parents fault for not curbing that behavior and the daycare's fault for not curbing it either. However, the daycare is probably scared of a lawsuit for disciplining some one else's child. Too many wacko parents out there.

If this is a reputable daycare then I am sure the parents of the other child received the form as well.
 
Most daycares take NAEYC accreditation very seriously. Speak to the Daycare director and mention that you would expect more from a center that is nationally accredited. One part of accreditation is that a center cannot have too many 'incidents' and if they do they could get their accreditation pulled.

If they are like most daycare centers they would rather kick the biter out of the room and keep their accreditation.
 
A poor taste is not going to deter a determined biter. The only reasonable solution is to construct a barbwire suit for your son to wear.
 
Originally posted by: xochi
Most daycares take NAEYC accreditation very seriously. Speak to the Daycare director and mention that you would expect more from a center that is nationally accredited. One part of accreditation is that a center cannot have too many 'incidents' and if they do they could get their accreditation pulled.

If they are like most daycare centers they would rather kick the biter out of the room and keep their accreditation.

That's what I am planning on doing today, talk about their accreditation.
 
I know a bus stop where you can drop your kid off and the lady who lives there will watch over your child free. She's run into some trouble lately but I'm sure you can work something out with her. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: DesiPower
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Find a new daycare.

Originally posted by: Razgriz
find another daycare, maybe? 😕

this is the second day care, we moved him close to my work because of traffic. That day care had its problems too, not with kids but with management and staff. They are all that same, its always going to be something or the other...

I'd find a third day care...if you find this one has problems too, it's time to start looking at yourself.

Are you on full-fare at these places or a reduced/subsidized cost one? When I was in day care (about 2-3 hours a day growing up tops), the cheap seat crowd were always the one's with issues. I don't know if they felt the service should be more individualized or just felt they should be getting more.

Those mother's paying full price never had much to complain about except on of the paste eaters stealing or breaking their kid's stuff.

Accredation or not should not be why you pick a day care for your needs. A day care may be the best for my kids, but a piss-poor solution for your's needs.
 
Originally posted by: alm99
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: alm99
Originally posted by: DesiPower

this is the second day care, we moved him close to my work because of traffic. That day care had its problems too, not with kids but with management and staff. They are all that same, its always going to be something or the other...

Ding, Ding, Ding! Winner!

Is this your first kid? Plan on having more? It's a guarantee that you will experience this between siblings, if it is not biting it will be hitting.

You don't really expect a 15 month old and an 18th month old to know enough to restrain themselves when they are aggravated or frustrated do you?

along sibling maybe.

but a daycare? and the 3rd time? after the 2nd the daycare should be telling the parents of the biting child they are not welcome back.

also they need to have enought staff to be watching a child that bites and takeing messures against it.

3rd time sure it sure does not sound like they are.

You say in your OP that your son was documented twice and now the third time as being the aggressive one by trying to take toys from other kids. Maybe the only way that the other child knows how to cope is to bite back at the other kids? Total parents fault for not curbing that behavior and the daycare's fault for not curbing it either. However, the daycare is probably scared of a lawsuit for disciplining some one else's child. Too many wacko parents out there.

If this is a reputable daycare then I am sure the parents of the other child received the form as well.

wich is why i say 1st time bitting then its a accident/issue. 2nd time bitting its a bad kid (and should be removed) 3rd time the daycare is bad and i would be looking for a new one.

EVERY daycare will remove the child that bites. The one we sent our kids to had it in the rules that if the child bites twice the child would not be welcomed back.

i would not be happy to have the same child bite mine 3 times. that would make me worry if they are really looking after the kids.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: alm99
Originally posted by: DesiPower

this is the second day care, we moved him close to my work because of traffic. That day care had its problems too, not with kids but with management and staff. They are all that same, its always going to be something or the other...

Ding, Ding, Ding! Winner!

Is this your first kid? Plan on having more? It's a guarantee that you will experience this between siblings, if it is not biting it will be hitting.

You don't really expect a 15 month old and an 18th month old to know enough to restrain themselves when they are aggravated or frustrated do you?

along sibling maybe.

but a daycare? and the 3rd time? after the 2nd the daycare should be telling the parents of the biting child they are not welcome back.

also they need to have enought staff to be watching a child that bites and takeing messures against it.

3rd time sure it sure does not sound like they are.

Oh good lord, people freak about about stupid stuff.

Was your kid bleeding? Were there marks left from the bite? Did the day care assure you that they are working with the biter to correct the behavior? If the answers are no, no and yes then welcome to the real world where your child is not treated at a fragile glass figurine.

Kids bite, hit, pull hair, tease, steal toys, etc. until they are taught otherwise. Your kid is in part of that learning process, the other kid is in part of that learning process. Their learning processes will interact in daycare and as a parent you should expect that.

If your kid shows signs of being disturbed or injured, then you should get worked up. Getting worked up when he's just experiencing what every other kid in history has experienced is dumb.
 
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: alm99
Originally posted by: DesiPower

this is the second day care, we moved him close to my work because of traffic. That day care had its problems too, not with kids but with management and staff. They are all that same, its always going to be something or the other...

Ding, Ding, Ding! Winner!

Is this your first kid? Plan on having more? It's a guarantee that you will experience this between siblings, if it is not biting it will be hitting.

You don't really expect a 15 month old and an 18th month old to know enough to restrain themselves when they are aggravated or frustrated do you?

along sibling maybe.

but a daycare? and the 3rd time? after the 2nd the daycare should be telling the parents of the biting child they are not welcome back.

also they need to have enought staff to be watching a child that bites and takeing messures against it.

3rd time sure it sure does not sound like they are.

Oh good lord, people freak about about stupid stuff.

Was your kid bleeding? Were there marks left from the bite? Did the day care assure you that they are working with the biter to correct the behavior? If the answers are no, no and yes then welcome to the real world where your child is not treated at a fragile glass figurine.

Kids bite, hit, pull hair, tease, steal toys, etc. until they are taught otherwise. Your kid is in part of that learning process, the other kid is in part of that learning process. Their learning processes will interact in daycare and as a parent you should expect that.

If your kid shows signs of being disturbed or injured, then you should get worked up. Getting worked up when he's just experiencing what every other kid in history has experienced is dumb.

its not so much the kid getting hurt (though kids bitting can leave bruises, and break the skin). its the fact that after the 3rd time i would be wondering how closely they are watching the kids. When you are paying as much as childcare cost thats a legit concern.

shit happens. i understand that. if the child is playing and falls and breaks an arm no big deal. its going to happen.

But to have a child that is a known bitter they need to be watching a little closer. on the 3rd bite on ONE kid yeah i don't think they are. and yes i would be talking to them.

nearly EVERY daycare at that point will remove the bitter then worry about pissing off to many parents because the kid is doing it.
 
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: alm99
Originally posted by: DesiPower

this is the second day care, we moved him close to my work because of traffic. That day care had its problems too, not with kids but with management and staff. They are all that same, its always going to be something or the other...

Ding, Ding, Ding! Winner!

Is this your first kid? Plan on having more? It's a guarantee that you will experience this between siblings, if it is not biting it will be hitting.

You don't really expect a 15 month old and an 18th month old to know enough to restrain themselves when they are aggravated or frustrated do you?

along sibling maybe.

but a daycare? and the 3rd time? after the 2nd the daycare should be telling the parents of the biting child they are not welcome back.

also they need to have enought staff to be watching a child that bites and takeing messures against it.

3rd time sure it sure does not sound like they are.

Oh good lord, people freak about about stupid stuff.

Was your kid bleeding? Were there marks left from the bite? Did the day care assure you that they are working with the biter to correct the behavior? If the answers are no, no and yes then welcome to the real world where your child is not treated at a fragile glass figurine.

Kids bite, hit, pull hair, tease, steal toys, etc. until they are taught otherwise. Your kid is in part of that learning process, the other kid is in part of that learning process. Their learning processes will interact in daycare and as a parent you should expect that.

If your kid shows signs of being disturbed or injured, then you should get worked up. Getting worked up when he's just experiencing what every other kid in history has experienced is dumb.

My main concern is not my son getting bitten but the day care staff blaming it on my kids for getting bitten, I have problem signing a notice that describes how my son was bothering that other girl and that's when he got bitten. And also with the staff not being able to handle toddlers, this daycare is on the more expensive side, since I am paying more I expect it to be different from an average daycare.
 
Originally posted by: DesiPower
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: alm99
Originally posted by: DesiPower

this is the second day care, we moved him close to my work because of traffic. That day care had its problems too, not with kids but with management and staff. They are all that same, its always going to be something or the other...

Ding, Ding, Ding! Winner!

Is this your first kid? Plan on having more? It's a guarantee that you will experience this between siblings, if it is not biting it will be hitting.

You don't really expect a 15 month old and an 18th month old to know enough to restrain themselves when they are aggravated or frustrated do you?

along sibling maybe.

but a daycare? and the 3rd time? after the 2nd the daycare should be telling the parents of the biting child they are not welcome back.

also they need to have enought staff to be watching a child that bites and takeing messures against it.

3rd time sure it sure does not sound like they are.

Oh good lord, people freak about about stupid stuff.

Was your kid bleeding? Were there marks left from the bite? Did the day care assure you that they are working with the biter to correct the behavior? If the answers are no, no and yes then welcome to the real world where your child is not treated at a fragile glass figurine.

Kids bite, hit, pull hair, tease, steal toys, etc. until they are taught otherwise. Your kid is in part of that learning process, the other kid is in part of that learning process. Their learning processes will interact in daycare and as a parent you should expect that.

If your kid shows signs of being disturbed or injured, then you should get worked up. Getting worked up when he's just experiencing what every other kid in history has experienced is dumb.

My main concern is not my son getting bitten but the day care staff blaming it on my kids for getting bitten, I have problem signing a notice that describes how my son was bothering that other girl and that's when he got bitten. And also with the staff not being able to handle toddlers, this daycare is on the more expensive side, since I am paying more I expect it to be different from an average daycare.

That's fair, and in that light the daycare staff does sound like they're more interested in covering their arse than taking care of your kid. I could see where you'd be concerned there.

My earlier post still stands for a lot of the other responders in the thread though.
 
Just received email from the manager, I feel much better now, I was really pissed and was about the go there all worked up... now i feel more relaxed...

Hello ****,

Just wanted to followed up with the biting incident that occurred today in the Toddler I classroom. I am working with the teachers, parents and biter. The biter is currently on a behavior plan. What this means is that the biter is being shadowed, all incidents are documented, biter is given a teething ring during the day, and periodic conferences are held with the biter's parents to update on the status of the biting. I strongly believe in getting the parents and teachers involved to resolve this situation.

followed by a detailed biting policy
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Originally posted by: DesiPower
Just received email from the manager, I feel much better now, I was really pissed and was about the go there all worked up... now i feel more relaxed...

Hello ****,

Just wanted to followed up with the biting incident that occurred today in the Toddler I classroom. I am working with the teachers, parents and biter. The biter is currently on a behavior plan. What this means is that the biter is being shadowed, all incidents are documented, biter is given a teething ring during the day, and periodic conferences are held with the biter's parents to update on the status of the biting. I strongly believe in getting the parents and teachers involved to resolve this situation.

followed by a detailed biting policy
....
....
....

thats what they should have done on the 2nd bite. but good to see they are doing something.
 
Here's a question: are the day care workers reinforcing that behavior? i.e. if the biter is biting to keep a toy from being taken away by another child, do the day care workers give the toy back to the biter to avoid having two crying children?
 
Originally posted by: Quintox
Teach him to punch

At 15 months, the punch will be pretty weak.

Instead, teach him to hit the biter with a big toy...something that will leave marks.
 
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