Arkaign
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No, they still have to patch it like mad. The reason is they are consistently changing the security for BD playback. The forced patching to play back new titles makes it so that people with hacked players (to play burned BDs for example, or ISOs on PC) can't watch the new movie.
Look up Cinavia and AACS.
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/video/aacs.html
With XB1 having a BD drive, get ready for that to start doing the same things, the MPAA and studios will constantly jam down new content protection attempts down our throats, and what better way than consoles that will make their ways into millions of homes?
KentState
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BrightCandle
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There are some issues with zero day patching:
1) If you don't have internet (a good reason to get a console instead of a PC) then your flat out of luck on a lot of features listed on the box.
2) Everyone else is patching at the same darn time, its going to be slow.
Its obviously very difficult for them to get the software ready in time for boxing but its disappointing to see so much of the capabilities hampered without that initial patch being applied.
1) If you don't have internet (a good reason to get a console instead of a PC) then your flat out of luck on a lot of features listed on the box.
2) Everyone else is patching at the same darn time, its going to be slow.
Its obviously very difficult for them to get the software ready in time for boxing but its disappointing to see so much of the capabilities hampered without that initial patch being applied.
With all the theft and people somehow acquiring games before they are launched, it's pretty obvious why they would want multiplayer and Blu Ray/DVD capabilities turned off before the official launch. The other stuff, meh.
Oh well, it's not like the xbox one won't have a patch the first day, hell look at all the games that get a patch the first day
Anubis
No Lifer
yep
non issue
ans about the PS4 updates i imagine they will gho faster, the main culprit in the PS3 slowness on installing was how the OS worked with the cell and whatnot, everything being x86 now should improve the updates
HeXen
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Heck with first day, it's the damn near daily updates that piss me off. Just last night I turned on the PS3, Clicked on Netflix and system update 4.5 had to be done first.
20 god forsaken minutes later, I click on Netflix again and now Netflix has an update that just has to be done. Often on PC's, many apps allow you to continue without the update.
You know late at night, just wanting to watch a quick flick, it's extremely irritating as this situation happens to me way too often. No other device that has Netflix on it does this to me with such consistency.
But as long as it can be done automatically in the background on PS4, won't be as bad but both MS and Sony love their updates way too much considering I have never had a problem that needed fixing...so what's in these updates? I suspect it's more anti piracy stuff as new games get released than anything else. An update for the sake of updating, rarely do I actually see a benefit.
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cmdrdredd
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The main problem was you could not download, and install at the same time. You had to download, restart, update, then sometimes restart again since it would not just update immediately after the download. Plus my PS3 would never get the same network speeds as any other device I own.
cmdrdredd
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Cinavia has been around for a LONG time. People have been breaking it for a while now.
Arkaign
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Oh of course, but that doesn't stop them from patching patching patching and making things harder for the average joe who just wants to watch a movie. Just the other day I had to help download a new firmware for an older friend's set-top Bluray player so that he could watch a new movie he got for his birthday.
cmdrdredd
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When was the last time it was updated though? My Panasonic BD-30 hasn't updated in a long time and it plays every disk I have. I haven't come across this issue myself where a disk would not play.
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Well I just avoid Blu-Ray reproduction all together, I just rip them and put it on My NAS Server then stream to My PS3 in my Room and My TV in the Living Room Via DLNA(FTW), it solves most problems with Cinavia, plus I can watch movies anywhere in the house even on my cellphone or tablet. God Bless Technology....
cmdrdredd
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I've never been able to keep the HD audio in a playable format. I always use the disk because audio trumps video for many of the movies I watch.
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Audio to me is a non issues, I'm one of those persons that can't tell the audio quality apart it simply sounds all the same to me....
cmdrdredd
Lifer
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The audio is one area that i would say lacks the most emphasis in both games and movies. I am not an audiophile per se but I definitely feel audio is more impactful to me.
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I think that is the problem audio depends allot on the person perception, your average Joe can't tell the difference or is just ignorant to it, so that makes it a less important area in companies eyes, Besides audio relies has much in the hardware has it relies on the source.
HeXen
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Meh, few people even have nice speakers that could do a good source justice anyway. Most everyone I know, myself included just get those tiny HT in a box crap with micro speakers and call it a day.
Arkaign
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True, I actually think audio quality has regressed rather than advanced over the past 20 years. I remember it was semi common to see people with moderately decent home theatres, and watching something like T2 on a laser disc with a good system was awesome.
I tried to go to one of those $300 soundbar things with the wireless sub. Ugh. It was far better than TV audio and the $100-$200 HTIB craps, but I couldn't take it. Dedicated myself to gathering a decent used bargain-hunter HT, and I'm back to Denon 7.1 770W legit once more. Well, I only use two subs + two big mains + big center + two smallish rears, so I'm technically 5.1, but whatever.
Aikouka
Lifer
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Well, to be a nitpicky, that's a 5.2 setup.
Sound is kind of like cars in a way with the phrase "there's no replacement for displacement." You can attempt to try to use puny little cones in a soundbar to give you decent sound, but it won't hold a candle to good speakers. Newegg actually has the Monitor 70s on sale for $150 each, and they're a pretty good entry-level speaker. My friend keeps asking me when I'm going to upgrade my older Monitor 70s so he can get them.
Anubis
No Lifer
movies (BR) are generally fine today, DTS-MA and Dolby True HD are pretty awesome. but yes some movies have crap audio, however its still generally pretty good
games are hit or miss, TLOU had amazing sound, so did BF3 others not so much
cmdrdredd
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The bitrate and encoding has little to do with the mixing done in the studio. You can have very well done lossy Dolby 5.1 and terrible DTS-HD MA
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