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This just in: one can type/write something one way, and say it aloud... in a completely different manner! gasp 😱

😛

I do all the time. I'll just "June 3rd" or "the third"... but I'll write it like I described previously: 03JUN2012

If I was typing something to be utilized for date-based sorting, yes, I'd use 2012JUN03, but I have no purpose for that at this time.
 
Ever since I was in the army, I use 3JUN12, etc. I also sign my documents that way, it's pretty unlikely if someone forges my signature they are going to use the same date format, either.

I hope I get to live to be 147... because it will be...

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I prefer unix format for storage and sorting (ex: in a database), and using something like june-3-2012 for display or if writing it down. I hate the all number format no matter what order it's in, because of the fact that there's no actual standard to what the order is. So if you see the date 6/5/4 written on something such as a file backup, is it May 6 2004 or is it June 5 2004? Heck, maybe it's actually May 4 2006? There's no easy way to tell without knowing the format they used.
 
MotionMan said:
Why would you, other than for sorting purposes?

MotionMan
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For practicality purposes.

I won't use year first unless it's for sorting (which, as I said, I rarely do).

#day-MON-#year is a more practical and the easiest to understand solution. It's internationally understood, and it serves to, well, represent the date whoever/wherever you are.

I just don't care to speak the date in the "3rd of June" format. On writing, however, it does indeed look that way.

Why would you go against the grain of the whole world, just because you don't speak it that way?
You care to live up to the "stubborn American" image? Holding onto failed standards, just to tell the world to shove it?

It's done, it's over. Our little last bastion of old-world standards is dead everywhere but here. Might as well gracefully accept it and move on.
Now if only the rest of the world would just unite under the English language, and we accept the remaining international trade standards, and we'd all be just a little happier. 😛
 
destrekor said:
For practicality purposes.

I won't use year first unless it's for sorting (which, as I said, I rarely do).

#day-MON-#year is a more practical and the easiest to understand solution. It's internationally understood, and it serves to, well, represent the date whoever/wherever you are.

I just don't care to speak the date in the "3rd of June" format. On writing, however, it does indeed look that way.

Why would you go against the grain of the whole world, just because you don't speak it that way?
You care to live up to the "stubborn American" image? Holding onto failed standards, just to tell the world to shove it?

It's done, it's over. Our little last bastion of old-world standards is dead everywhere but here. Might as well gracefully accept it and move on.
Now if only the rest of the world would just unite under the English language, and we accept the remaining international trade standards, and we'd all be just a little happier. 😛
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dd-mm-yyyy is also logical. It smoothly goes from smallest denomination to largest. It's aesthetically pleasing, and well ordered. The only reason mm-dd-yyyy makes sense is due to habit. We learned it ass backwards so it's ingrained. It's not a natural ordering though.
 
destrekor said:
For practicality purposes.

I won't use year first unless it's for sorting (which, as I said, I rarely do).

#day-MON-#year is a more practical and the easiest to understand solution. It's internationally understood, and it serves to, well, represent the date whoever/wherever you are.

I just don't care to speak the date in the "3rd of June" format. On writing, however, it does indeed look that way.

Why would you go against the grain of the whole world, just because you don't speak it that way?
You care to live up to the "stubborn American" image? Holding onto failed standards, just to tell the world to shove it?

It's done, it's over. Our little last bastion of old-world standards is dead everywhere but here. Might as well gracefully accept it and move on.
Now if only the rest of the world would just unite under the English language, and we accept the remaining international trade standards, and we'd all be just a little happier. 😛
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I do not buy that, because most of the world does something a certain way, that America should change to that way. Most of the world is uneducated. The majority of the world does not believe in a Judeo-Christian religion - Shall we close down all the schools and churches?

Instead of telling me that we are in the minority, tell me why their way is right. For example, tell me why writing something the way we say it (using proper grammar and vocabulary) is wrong.

MotionMan
 
MotionMan said:
I do not buy that, because most of the world does something a certain way, that America should change to that way. Most of the world is uneducated. The majority of the world does not believe in a Judeo-Christian religion - Shall we close down all the schools and churches?

Instead of telling me that we are in the minority, tell me why their way is right. For example, tell me why writing something the way we say it (using proper grammar and vocabulary) is wrong.

MotionMan
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lol

You put into writing the very reasons why we're so fucked as a species. Every group just has to be right and their way is always the best.

Quite a few countries are more intelligent than we are, many countries have moved past a puritan approach to religion.. and we're left simmering in anger yelling "we're right, dammit. listen to us! we're the best in the world! Y'all said so before!"

Besides, while "most of the world is uneducated", standards are still standards. The idea of standards is that sometimes, some must make minor sacrifices so that everyone can benefit using the standard.
And "the uneducated" of the world smartly latched onto what became the various international standards, ones that were established by countries that are, gasp, actually more intelligent than we are. We aren't the number one in intelligence, btw, just in case you forgot. The smarter portions of the world developed and latched onto standards, the rest of the world followed, and here we are saying, "but most of the world is uneducated! We're still right, they just can't see it because they're morons!"
 
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HamburgerBoy said:
Depends on the level of precision required. Unless I run into a confused naked dude in a dark alley, I'm going to give a person the day before the year.
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usually you're going to say 'june first' because for the most part you're not talking to marty mcfly so the year is understood.
 
depends on the context.

in letters with clients, I'll go MMM-DD YYYY (eg: Mar-03 2012)

for file names, YYYYMMDD (20120303_pron.sqb)
 
Maximilian said:
It just makes sense. month/day/year ?? lol...

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In the US they use month-day-year because that's how you speak the date. The US is the only country that does it that way. It's also the only country that landed people on the moon, so they can do whatever the hell they want.

The ISO standard is year-month-day, not day-month-year.
 
If I don't have to do numbers... then I always write out the month. Everything else is pretty obvious.

June 3rd, 2012.
 
destrekor said:
This just in: one can type/write something one way, and say it aloud... in a completely different manner! gasp 😱
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For what purpose? To integrate a complexity into a system? K.I.S.S.

Maybe I'll exchange the first two words of every sentence of my posts and demand that everyone flip flop them back to make sense of what I'm saying.
 
Thank god we aren't on military time like Japan.

I look up at the TV while in japan and it's like 20:36 and it takes me a second to understand it
 
destrekor said:
lol

You put into writing the very reasons why we're so fucked as a species. Every group just has to be right and their way is always the best.

Quite a few countries are more intelligent than we are, many countries have moved past a puritan approach to religion.. and we're left simmering in anger yelling "we're right, dammit. listen to us! we're the best in the world! Y'all said so before!"

Besides, while "most of the world is uneducated", standards are still standards. The idea of standards is that sometimes, some must make minor sacrifices so that everyone can benefit using the standard.
And "the uneducated" of the world smartly latched onto what became the various international standards, ones that were established by countries that are, gasp, actually more intelligent than we are. We aren't the number one in intelligence, btw, just in case you forgot. The smarter portions of the world developed and latched onto standards, the rest of the world followed, and here we are saying, "but most of the world is uneducated! We're still right, they just can't see it because they're morons!"
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Nice rant, but completely useless. Instead of telling me that we are in the minority, tell me why their way is right. For example, tell me why writing something the way we say it (using proper grammar and vocabulary) is wrong.

MotionMan
 
T_Yamamoto said:
Thank god we aren't on military time like Japan.

I look up at the TV while in japan and it's like 20:36 and it takes me a second to understand it
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That is why epoch time is best, it includes the time and date , all in one string
 
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Going from smallest number to biggest makes the most sense to me so month / day / year is where it works. 😛
 
MotionMan said:
Nice rant, but completely useless. Instead of telling me that we are in the minority, tell me why their way is right. For example, tell me why writing something the way we say it (using proper grammar and vocabulary) is wrong.

MotionMan
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If you wish to use proper grammar and vocabulary for date strings, then you will have quite a few different date strings to utilize depending on context.

I think one solution is better than many, no?

In most cases, "the Third of June, 2012" is the most grammatically correct approach to verbally stating the date. I'm not a grammar expert by any means, I usually just stick to what works or sounds best.
Let us consider one thing here: most other languages utilize a stronger grammatical case system, and the internationally-common way of both verbally stating the date and producing it in text, stems from "the most correct" grammatical syntax in every language.

Just because English has been bastardized doesn't make our way more correct.

Mull on this one for a bit: "The Fourth of July"
 
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