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Ninjahedge

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I think he is going for a post record.

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Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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As I suspected, STILL refusing to show his evidence. You are a troll.

This list is not a secret:

A statement of belief requires supporting evidence or else it is a faith based belief. This is a known thing, and is part of the very definition of the word faith.
Is it not true that you believe without any evidence whatsoever that you are not being supernaturally tricked into believing a falsehood?

You also claim he showed support
Please cite this claim that you have attributed to me, or admit it is in fact you (as usual) that is dishonest.

...but refuse to show it
Faith-based belief.

...then say this support is magically hidden from me but you can see it.
Please quote me where I have made this claim.

And this addition:

When you stop evading, I will return the favor.
That's rich, coming from a tap-dancing troll like you.

Please tell me what I have evaded. When this request goes unanswered, I will add it to the list below.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Seems you are STILL refusing to show this proof...
Is it your suggestion that when characterizing a belief as "faith based," it is tantamount to claiming that the belief is false?

Do you think that it is impossible for a faith based belief to be true?
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Seems you are STILL refusing to show this proof...all you do when it is mentiones is use your trolling technique...the one you get bend about when it is used back against you.

So...are you going to actually show this proof, or are you going to continue to troll?

I forgot what you told me before, again how many angels can fit on the head of a pin?
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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HAHA, this guy...

So what we have here is a new account established back in Nov with a massive amount of troll posts since then. We had an account called PhinneasJWhoopie who was banned around that time which was an account that had a massive amount of troll posts in a short period of time. Not only that, they both post pretty much the same thing, argued the same way, and do the same type of overly religious stupidity posts.

And his argument back to my claim is to state I'm ProJo? I'm guessing he meant ProfJohn. Wow, what logic you display here. I'm so glad you are able to convince anyone reading this thread that I am ProfJohn because I give a bunch of relative evidence and point a finger to you being the same as a previous account that was banned.

You know, this is the exact same troll thing you do with everything else when being asked something direct. Someone asks you to answer a simple question. What's 2 + 2? Normal people would respond 4 or I don't know. How does the troll Phinneas.... er cybersage respond? Well mister math wiz I don't believe in the number 2 so the answer is really what you should be asking is this, what do you get when you crush a blueberry with a rhino?

That's the stupid non-sense you keep spouting out. When we are like, WTF does a rhino crushing a blueberry have anything to do with the topic at hand, you deflect, divert more. As if all your nonsensical ramblings are actually trying to make a point to anyone.

So when I call you out for being the previous banned poster of Phinneas, a normal person would have responded with either, "Yes, no, or I don't know what you are talking about."

Instead you respond, "You are Projo!" Nice troll.
 
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Darwin333

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No, that is not what happened.



You would be correct if that was the case. In this case, Person B's statement was before that of Person A.

Person B: I do not believe the Moon is made of cheese.
Persan A: I do not believe that is the case.

Yall have 4 or 5 pages of basically the same back and forth posts based solely on which order two statements were made?
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Yall have 4 or 5 pages of basically the same back and forth posts based solely on which order two statements were made?
What happened was that I asked him a very pointed question that he didn't want to answer, because in order to answer it honestly he would reveal a gaping hole in his own arguments. Consequently, he spent the next several dozen posts trying to first dismiss (without answering) the question as "stupid," and then eventually trying to (falsely) attribute a claim to me so that he could whine that I wasn't supporting my assertions and take the attention away from the fact that he was evading my original point.
 

fskimospy

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What happened was that I asked him a very pointed question that he didn't want to answer, because in order to answer it honestly he would reveal a gaping hole in his own arguments. Consequently, he spent the next several dozen posts trying to first dismiss (without answering) the question as "stupid," and then eventually trying to (falsely) attribute a claim to me so that he could whine that I wasn't supporting my assertions and take the attention away from the fact that he was evading my original point.

That's what he always does when he's losing an argument. I've made a New February 10th's resolution to just stop responding to him altogether. It's a waste of everyone's time to keep on with him until he is eventually banned.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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It's a waste of everyone's time to keep on with him until he is eventually banned.
Eh, when I come here, it's because I have time to waste. I'm happy to beat him up on the forums for as long as my free time allows, if for nothing else than to make an example of him.
 

Juddog

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Dec 11, 2006
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That's what he always does when he's losing an argument. I've made a New February 10th's resolution to just stop responding to him altogether. It's a waste of everyone's time to keep on with him until he is eventually banned.

I personally gave up on him after backing him into a corner regarding the birth control issue, and him stating that having a fertilized egg passing the uterus without it attaching was the same thing as murdering another person. I've heard a lot of nutty opinions about birth control, but that takes the cake. He was one step away from saying that masturbation is the equivalent of mass murder.

Once you corner him on something he did wrong, he will simply evade, attack the person pointing out his falsehood, or any other number of logical fallacies.

It's pretty sad when you think about it, but hey that's what the ignore button is for. I'm not going to get a warning because he baited me, instead I'll sit back and ignore him until he gets banned like his other account got banned.

The really funny part is when he tried to use the same tactic on an admin, and the admin specifically called him out on his intellectual dishonesty, pointed out exactly what he was doing wrong, and then immediately he went back to his old ways. The admins have their eyes on him and it's only a matter of time.

The sad part is that it discourages honest intellectual discourse in the forum, and it's people like him that give P&N the bad reputation it has on the rest of the forums. You can pretty much assume that no matter what thread you are in, he'll be in the same thread with his typical behavior clogging up the thread with garbage.
 

cybrsage

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I forgot what you told me before, again how many angels can fit on the head of a pin?

As many as God wants there to be. Pretty simple. Since your premise already presupposes the existance of Angels, which are creatures who hang out with God, it also presupposes God exists as well.

Easy question to answer.
 

cybrsage

Lifer
Nov 17, 2011
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I personally gave up on him after backing him into a corner regarding the birth control issue, and him stating that having a fertilized egg passing the uterus without it attaching was the same thing as murdering another person.

This is a lie. Quote me saying it.
 

Matt1970

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There were a LOT of people who witnessed what they believed to be Jesus Christ 2000 years ago and wrote about it. There were many more who witnessed acts of God and also wrote about it. The evidence seems to point to something supernatural going on back then. For all we know it could have been Aliens. If that is the case than it is the prank of all pranks. However, to suggest it was all made up shows true lack of intelligence. It seems quite clear to me that everything couldn't have happened exactly the way it was written in the Bible but people sure like to dismiss the whole account over some discrepancies written over 2000 years ago.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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I personally gave up on him after backing him into a corner regarding the birth control issue, and him stating that having a fertilized egg passing the uterus without it attaching was the same thing as murdering another person. I've heard a lot of nutty opinions about birth control, but that takes the cake. He was one step away from saying that masturbation is the equivalent of mass murder.

Once you corner him on something he did wrong, he will simply evade, attack the person pointing out his falsehood, or any other number of logical fallacies.

It's pretty sad when you think about it, but hey that's what the ignore button is for. I'm not going to get a warning because he baited me, instead I'll sit back and ignore him until he gets banned like his other account got banned.

The really funny part is when he tried to use the same tactic on an admin, and the admin specifically called him out on his intellectual dishonesty, pointed out exactly what he was doing wrong, and then immediately he went back to his old ways. The admins have their eyes on him and it's only a matter of time.

The sad part is that it discourages honest intellectual discourse in the forum, and it's people like him that give P&N the bad reputation it has on the rest of the forums. You can pretty much assume that no matter what thread you are in, he'll be in the same thread with his typical behavior clogging up the thread with garbage.

Yeap. He exhibits really bad behavior, particularly for someone who claims to be an adult. Hopefully he will be banned sooner rather than later, but I for one have simply given up on dealing with such a child.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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There were a LOT of people who witnessed what they believed to be Jesus Christ 2000 years ago and wrote about it. There were many more who witnessed acts of God and also wrote about it. The evidence seems to point to something supernatural going on back then. For all we know it could have been Aliens. If that is the case than it is the prank of all pranks. However, to suggest it was all made up shows true lack of intelligence. It seems quite clear to me that everything couldn't have happened exactly the way it was written in the Bible but people sure like to dismiss the whole account over some discrepancies written over 2000 years ago.

No Historian of that time mentions any of these things. Even what was written in the Bible was written 30+ years after the alleged events and much(if not most) was written by people who never witnessed the alleged events first hand. Even the Gospels have very different recalls of events(Resurrection being the most obvious). Certain parts have been clearly added long after the fact(1 as much as 900 years later).
 

Mr. Pedantic

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There were a LOT of people who witnessed what they believed to be Jesus Christ 2000 years ago and wrote about it. There were many more who witnessed acts of God and also wrote about it. The evidence seems to point to something supernatural going on back then. For all we know it could have been Aliens. If that is the case than it is the prank of all pranks. However, to suggest it was all made up shows true lack of intelligence. It seems quite clear to me that everything couldn't have happened exactly the way it was written in the Bible but people sure like to dismiss the whole account over some discrepancies written over 2000 years ago.
Actually, the same phenomena that likely produce most 'sightings' of aliens - sleep paralysis, hallucinations, memory modification/suggestion, etc. - are probably also behind most accounts of fairies, demons, holy visions, etc.

Also, argument from popularity. Just because lots of people think something is true doesn't mean it is. Given the nature of most 'supernatural' or 'extraterrestrial' events contemporarily, when we have better scientific understanding of the world, as well as something better and less fallible than human memory with which to record events, I don't see it as a huge leap of faith to hypothesize that such supernatural or holy events were simply hoaxes, tricks, or...I'll be charitable and call them misunderstandings.

And my knowledge of historical vs Biblical accounts isn't great, but as far as I know you're making Jesus out to be a much larger hit on the ancient world than he really was.
 
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