David Shuster exposes Republican Congresswoman ... absolutely hilarious stuff.

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken


Wow. The spin is strong in this thread. Some lefty joints must be aching from all the reaching they're doing.

Just because you get disorientated with 2 fast turns doesn't mean it's spin. :laugh:

 

[Tab]

Bitch got owned.

 

[Stoneburner]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Stoneburner
http://www.commercialappeal.co...2007/sep/28/e28gotcha/

You ready CAD? I'll await your apologies to the integrity of the penultimate professional, David Shuster, posthaste!

But Shuster's apology may have been premature. The tiny hamlet of Bon Aqua, Tenn., is where Bohannon lived in the months immediately prior to entering the Army. The Census Bureau places his home in Blackburn's 7th Congressional District.

He lived in Bon Aqua for "close to a year" immediately prior to entering the Army, said Tonya Taylor, 35, who permitted him to stay at her house while Bohannon was dating her daughter.

Bohannon grew up, was home-schooled and was buried in McEwan, which is clearly in the 8th Congressional District of U.S. Rep. John Tanner, D-Tenn. But his last legal address was in Blackburn's district.

Then why did Shuster apologize? If he's such a good journalist shouldn't he have known those details from the beginning? All of the sudden this info comes out now and that suddenly makes Shuster right, even though he apparently didn't know the facts either even a day after he pulled the gotcha stunt?

Wow. The spin is strong in this thread. Some lefty joints must be aching from all the reaching they're doing.

Dan Abrams made him apologize, and the apology was obviously unnecessary. Who is reaching and spinning here? I'm very confused by your purpose on this forum. You don't seem to know a whole lot, and are relatively slow. Wouldn't it be better if you actually read iinstead of posting?

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Stoneburner
http://www.commercialappeal.co...2007/sep/28/e28gotcha/

You ready CAD? I'll await your apologies to the integrity of the penultimate professional, David Shuster, posthaste!

But Shuster's apology may have been premature. The tiny hamlet of Bon Aqua, Tenn., is where Bohannon lived in the months immediately prior to entering the Army. The Census Bureau places his home in Blackburn's 7th Congressional District.

He lived in Bon Aqua for "close to a year" immediately prior to entering the Army, said Tonya Taylor, 35, who permitted him to stay at her house while Bohannon was dating her daughter.

Bohannon grew up, was home-schooled and was buried in McEwan, which is clearly in the 8th Congressional District of U.S. Rep. John Tanner, D-Tenn. But his last legal address was in Blackburn's district.

Then why did Shuster apologize? If he's such a good journalist shouldn't he have known those details from the beginning? All of the sudden this info comes out now and that suddenly makes Shuster right, even though he apparently didn't know the facts either even a day after he pulled the gotcha stunt?

Wow. The spin is strong in this thread. Some lefty joints must be aching from all the reaching they're doing.

Well said.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Stoneburner
http://www.commercialappeal.co...2007/sep/28/e28gotcha/

You ready CAD? I'll await your apologies to the integrity of the penultimate professional, David Shuster, posthaste!

But Shuster's apology may have been premature. The tiny hamlet of Bon Aqua, Tenn., is where Bohannon lived in the months immediately prior to entering the Army. The Census Bureau places his home in Blackburn's 7th Congressional District.

He lived in Bon Aqua for "close to a year" immediately prior to entering the Army, said Tonya Taylor, 35, who permitted him to stay at her house while Bohannon was dating her daughter.

Bohannon grew up, was home-schooled and was buried in McEwan, which is clearly in the 8th Congressional District of U.S. Rep. John Tanner, D-Tenn. But his last legal address was in Blackburn's district.

Then why did Shuster apologize? If he's such a good journalist shouldn't he have known those details from the beginning? All of the sudden this info comes out now and that suddenly makes Shuster right, even though he apparently didn't know the facts either even a day after he pulled the gotcha stunt?

Wow. The spin is strong in this thread. Some lefty joints must be aching from all the reaching they're doing.

Dan Abrams made him apologize, and the apology was obviously unnecessary. Who is reaching and spinning here? I'm very confused by your purpose on this forum. You don't seem to know a whole lot, and are relatively slow. Wouldn't it be better if you actually read iinstead of posting?

Why would someone apologize for something they were supposedly right about? Sure, no doubt Abrams made Shuster apologize....but if Shuster was confident that Bohannon was actually a resident in Blackburn's district and that Blackburn was notified (which she wasn't because Bohannon's "legal" address was not reported as Bon Aqua) then he shouldn't have apologized. He didn't know for sure......which ironically he expected of Blackburn.......and is why he apologized. Whatever, Shuster comes across as spineless and clueless.

Newspaper reporting of Bohannon's death states he was from McEwen.

 

[WHAMPOM]

OK. Bohannon was resident in Blackburn's District for a year, his family's home was in the Eight District where he was buried. That leaves the primary story correct and the rest nit-picking.,

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Stoneburner

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Then why did Shuster apologize? If he's such a good journalist shouldn't he have known those details from the beginning? All of the sudden this info comes out now and that suddenly makes Shuster right, even though he apparently didn't know the facts either even a day after he pulled the gotcha stunt?

Wow. The spin is strong in this thread. Some lefty joints must be aching from all the reaching they're doing.

Dan Abrams made him apologize, and the apology was obviously unnecessary. Who is reaching and spinning here? I'm very confused by your purpose on this forum. You don't seem to know a whole lot, and are relatively slow. Wouldn't it be better if you actually read iinstead of posting?

Why would someone apologize for something they were supposedly right about? Sure, no doubt Abrams made Shuster apologize....but if Shuster was confident that Bohannon was actually a resident in Blackburn's district and that Blackburn was notified (which she wasn't because Bohannon's "legal" address was not reported as Bon Aqua) then he shouldn't have apologized. He didn't know for sure......which ironically he expected of Blackburn.......and is why he apologized. Whatever, Shuster comes across as spineless and clueless.

Newspaper reporting of Bohannon's death states he was from McEwen.

You know kids, while all your misdirection and blame-shifting is entertaining, the fact remains Blackburn's priorities are skewed. She cared enough to get worked up about an immaterial advertisement -- her faux indignation another exercise in misdirection and blame-shifting -- yet she didn't care enough to know about the very real, very tragic impact Bush's fiasco continues to have on the human beings she is supposed to represent. Blackburn didn't just have a different answer to Shuster's question, she had NO answer at all. She simply had no clue, and obviously no real interest, in the victims of the war she cheerleads. Shuster demonstrated this quite effectively. You can yammer all you want about him not knowing the full story behind Bohannon, but the fact remains that unlike Blackburn, he wasn't elected to represent anyone.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Stoneburner

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Then why did Shuster apologize? If he's such a good journalist shouldn't he have known those details from the beginning? All of the sudden this info comes out now and that suddenly makes Shuster right, even though he apparently didn't know the facts either even a day after he pulled the gotcha stunt?

Wow. The spin is strong in this thread. Some lefty joints must be aching from all the reaching they're doing.

Dan Abrams made him apologize, and the apology was obviously unnecessary. Who is reaching and spinning here? I'm very confused by your purpose on this forum. You don't seem to know a whole lot, and are relatively slow. Wouldn't it be better if you actually read iinstead of posting?

Why would someone apologize for something they were supposedly right about? Sure, no doubt Abrams made Shuster apologize....but if Shuster was confident that Bohannon was actually a resident in Blackburn's district and that Blackburn was notified (which she wasn't because Bohannon's "legal" address was not reported as Bon Aqua) then he shouldn't have apologized. He didn't know for sure......which ironically he expected of Blackburn.......and is why he apologized. Whatever, Shuster comes across as spineless and clueless.

Newspaper reporting of Bohannon's death states he was from McEwen.

You know kids, while all your misdirection and blame-shifting is entertaining, the fact remains Blackburn's priorities are skewed. She cared enough to get worked up about an immaterial advertisement -- her faux indignation another exercise in misdirection and blame-shifting -- yet she didn't care enough to know about the very real, very tragic impact Bush's fiasco continues to have on the human beings she is supposed to represent. Blackburn didn't just have a different answer to Shuster's question, she had NO answer at all. She simply had no clue, and obviously no real interest, in the victims of the war she cheerleads. Shuster demonstrated this quite effectively. You can yammer all you want about him not knowing the full story behind Bohannon, but the fact remains that unlike Blackburn, he wasn't elected to represent anyone.

How many GW2 KIA's in Blackburn's district? When was the last KIA? Do you expect her to remember them all, or just "the last one"? The Moveon ad happened a handful of days prior to this "interview", easily why it would be on her mind as it was the topic of the day.

Regardless, you can belittle Blackburn and I can rightfully belittle Shuster. The only thing Shuster proved conclusively is that he's a classless moron and Blackburn didn't have the name of the last KIA in her district memorized.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Corn
How many GW2 KIA's in Blackburn's district? When was the last KIA? Do you expect her to remember them all, or just "the last one"? The Moveon ad happened a handful of days prior to this "interview", easily why it would be on her mind as it was the topic of the day.

Regardless, you can belittle Blackburn and I can rightfully belittle Shuster. The only thing Shuster proved conclusively is that he's a classless moron and Blackburn didn't have the name of the last KIA in her district memorized.

Uhmm, it happened a month prior. It wasn't like he was asking her to remember something that happened a year ago... and its not like so many people from her district die that she can't possibly keep track. I couldn't care less if people in Congress know the names of people who die in their districts in a general sense. Then again, I also don't care if a PAC puts an ad in a newspaper and respond with faux outrage over how sad it must have made the poor emotionally fragile troops.

If they are going to go on and on and on about how much they care about the troops, how close they are to them all, and how dedicated they are to defending them against all of the hurt feelings that Moveon.org has undoubtedly caused among them however, then yes... I expect them to know the name of someone who died in their district less then a month ago. If they wanted to insulate themselves from being made to look like a fool about this sort of thing, maybe they should spend less time fighting valiantly against newspaper advertisements. He just shoved her craven politicking in her face, and I'm glad he did it.

Good job on attacking the messenger here though guys, you have done a fairly decent job of getting people to talk about the news guy instead of the Congresswoman. Even if it's a dishonest form of arguing an issue, I can appreciate a job well done.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Corn
How many GW2 KIA's in Blackburn's district? When was the last KIA? Do you expect her to remember them all, or just "the last one"? The Moveon ad happened a handful of days prior to this "interview", easily why it would be on her mind as it was the topic of the day.

Regardless, you can belittle Blackburn and I can rightfully belittle Shuster. The only thing Shuster proved conclusively is that he's a classless moron and Blackburn didn't have the name of the last KIA in her district memorized.

Uhmm, it happened a month prior. It wasn't like he was asking her to remember something that happened a year ago... and its not like so many people from her district die that she can't possibly keep track.

Ummmm, no it did not. Blackburn was never notified by the DOD of Bohannon's death because even though he might have once lived in Blackburn's district, as far as the DOD was concerned when deciding whom to notifiy (such as Congressman, Senator, Governor, etc), he was from McEwen. Did you even bother to click my last link to the news story reporting Bohannan's death?

The rightwing rag the Huffington Post even reports that Tanner was notified of Bohannon's death. (as if it were a minor point in this whole exercise at the end of the story in an "update") Why would the DOD send notification to a Congressman not in Bohannon's district?

My original point stands.........just like the slimy Shuster in his smugness thought he had the answer in his indignation he was wrong---you're in good company. Now, unless you've got information on the last KIA in Blackburn's district happened a month ago my point stands. How many names do you expect someone to remember and for how long?

 

[Stoneburner]

Corn, shuster was not wrong, and blackburn does not represent david petraeus. I wonder if she'll go back on the air to denounce rush limbaugh and the american conservative too now.

Everybody getting on Shuster's case is completely off on the wrong trail.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Corn

Ummmm, no it did not. Blackburn was never notified by the DOD of Bohannon's death because even though he might have once lived in Blackburn's district, as far as the DOD was concerned when deciding whom to notifiy (such as Congressman, Senator, Governor, etc), he was from McEwen. Did you even bother to click my last link to the news story reporting Bohannan's death?

The rightwing rag the Huffington Post even reports that Tanner was notified of Bohannon's death. (as if it were a minor point in this whole exercise at the end of the story in an "update") Why would the DOD send notification to a Congressman not in Bohannon's district?

My original point stands.........just like the slimy Shuster in his smugness thought he had the answer in his indignation he was wrong---you're in good company. Now, unless you've got information on the last KIA in Blackburn's district happened a month ago my point stands. How many names do you expect someone to remember and for how long?

Ugh, no. First of all why would the DoD screwing up his home of record reflect badly on Schuster? And of course, he ended up being right.

I already articulated my view on this, but I'll do it again. I think that no member of congress should be spending even a second of their time fighting against newspaper ads. If they are stupid enough to do so however, and their explanation rests on their endless love and concern for the Poor Easily Emotionally Hurt Troops, then they should sure as shit know the last one of them who was ACTUALLY hurt, not from flying newspaper but from the stupidass war she is supporting.

 

[Jhhnn]

From Stoneburner-

Everybody getting on Shuster's case is completely off on the wrong trail.

Duh! That's why they're doing it, to divert attention from the congresswoman, who set out to divert attention from the fiasco in Iraq onto the MoveOn ad...

The further away the rightwing can get from any meaningful discussion of Iraq, the happier they'll be... Any attempt to discuss that means you're a commie pinko leftist terrorist sympathizer, a defeatist who doesn't support the troops and horribly rude to bring it up at all... It doesn't matter who or how many die, just so long as it's profitable and keeps those patriotic juices flowing in their dimmer adherents...

If they could just get all the way through denial to complete catatonia, they'd shut up, and some real answers might be found...

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Corn
How many GW2 KIA's in Blackburn's district? When was the last KIA? Do you expect her to remember them all, or just "the last one"?

I don't know exactly how many people -- sons & daughters, brothers & sisters, fathers & mothers, husbands and wives -- from Blackburn's district have been killed. There are 435 House districts and almost 3,800 American soldiers killed so far, giving an average of fewer than nine dead per district. Given this, I think it is absolutely reasonable for someone like Blackburn who cheerleads the "war" against Iraq and claims to care so deeply for our troops should know the names and stories on every single one of them. That she couldn't even hazard a guess at the name of the last one shows just how shallow her concern is.

The Moveon ad happened a handful of days prior to this "interview", easily why it would be on her mind as it was the topic of the day.

Yes, a bogus topic floated by the Republicans to distract Americans from the ever-growing toll of the fiasco in Iraq.

Regardless, you can belittle Blackburn and I can rightfully belittle Shuster. The only thing Shuster proved conclusively is that he's a classless moron and Blackburn didn't have the name of the last KIA in her district memorized.

Great. Let's not vote for either of them then. At least Shuster isn't being hypocritical by pretending to care about Americans he's sending to die.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
I don't know.....

.....is all you needed to say.

I don't know how many names of KIA's I would expect someone to remember. I've often referred to people I've met and conversed with several times as whatshisname because at that very moment in time their name might excape me. Even moreso someone's name whom I've never met. One thing is certain, I'm definitely glad you are not my boss or my wife. I don't have a photographic memory and could never live up to your expectation of perfection as minimum competency.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
I think that no member of congress should be spending even a second of their time fighting against newspaper ads.

You and I are in agreement. I feel the same way about city councilmen who waste the tax payers' time by passing resolutions calling for the impeachment of Bush.

Originally posted by: eskimospy
......Poor Easily Emotionally Hurt Troops......

Now this is more of what I expect from the typical elite lefty.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
I don't know.....

.....is all you needed to say.

I don't know how many names of KIA's I would expect someone to remember. I've often referred to people I've met and conversed with several times as whatshisname because at that very moment in time their name might excape me. Even moreso someone's name whom I've never met. One thing is certain, I'm definitely glad you are not my boss or my wife. I don't have a photographic memory and could never live up to your expectation of perfection as minimum competency.

Not surprising that you dodged the point. The right's whole focus is diverting attention from things that really matter.

 

[Jhhnn]

From Corn-

I don't know how many names of KIA's I would expect someone to remember.

Nice shift, from a congresswoman who just claimed to be in touch with all the military families in her district to... someone, anyone else...

I'm sure she'd remember if it actually mattered to her... maybe if she'd even sent flowers, called the families of the dead, let alone attended funerals... too busy shilling for the Admin, apparently...

That odious ad, that moveon ad, is what really matters, right? and the interviewer who had the temerity to point out just how screwed up her values really are...

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
.......maybe if she'd even sent flowers, called the families of the dead, let alone attended funerals...

.....and you know she hasn't done any of these things, how? Oh, that's right, she couldn't have because she couldn't remember the name of the last KIA in her district during an interview in which the subject matter was a Moveon advertisement.....

Did the interviewer ask her to name *any* KIA in her district? No, he asked her to name the last.

 

[Stoneburner]

Wouldn't she name the last one she was informed of then?

You are justifying based on theoreticals now? Interesting.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner
Wouldn't she name the last one she was informed of then?

You are justifying based on theoreticals now? Interesting.

What the hell are you talking about? The question wasn't name *any*, it was name the *last*. The fact that you bring up that she would/should have just named *any* off the top of her head (which would have been wrong, eh?......and still a "gotcha!!!!") is highly theoretical itself. Silly silly liberati......

Obviously you've got strong feelings about the Iraq war. I'm sure you've read about a few KIA's from your state, or county, maybe even your town. Would you have remembered all of their names prior to the Shuster interview? Or even a single name off the top of your head? Of course this assumes you had no intimate knowledge of anyone KIA in Iraq......and I don't expect you to answer honestly and frankly I'd rather you not answer and just ponder the question instead........

.....and I know, its not your job, like its Blackburn's........

 

[Jhhnn]

From Corn-

and you know she hasn't done any of these things, how? Oh, that's right, she couldn't have because she couldn't remember the name of the last KIA in her district during an interview in which the subject matter was a Moveon advertisement.....

Heh. It was the congresswoman who attempted to narrow the scope of the discussion to the NYT ad, Corn. Shuster specifically laid out the agenda as being wrt hypocrisy about political attack ads... asking her if she'd condemn Rush for his play on it... she declined, engaging in her own little version of hypocrisy, then went on to do exactly what he'd been talking about... prattling on from her RNC provided script...

Watching the clip, that's all pretty obvious... She's delegated dealing with the military families in her district to her staff, thus having more time to devote her efforts to attacking the NYT... A subject obviously more important to the people of her district than their own dead young men, right? Why, the staff deals with that, same as office supplies, janitorial services, or pest control...

 

[Stoneburner]

Corn, if she wasn't given notice for the soldier shuster mentioned, wouldn't she naturally assume the last one she received notice of was the last one from her district killed? THe last one would be the last one she knew of. It's rather straightforward 🙂

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner
Corn, if she wasn't given notice for the soldier shuster mentioned, wouldn't she naturally assume the last one she received notice of was the last one from her district killed? THe last one would be the last one she knew of. It's rather straightforward 🙂

What kind of circular logic is this? Ummmm, duh?!

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
From Corn-

and you know she hasn't done any of these things, how? Oh, that's right, she couldn't have because she couldn't remember the name of the last KIA in her district during an interview in which the subject matter was a Moveon advertisement.....

Heh. It was the congresswoman who attempted to narrow the scope of the discussion to the NYT ad, Corn. Shuster specifically laid out the agenda as being wrt hypocrisy about political attack ads... asking her if she'd condemn Rush for his play on it... she declined, engaging in her own little version of hypocrisy, then went on to do exactly what he'd been talking about... prattling on from her RNC provided script...

Watching the clip, that's all pretty obvious... She's delegated dealing with the military families in her district to her staff, thus having more time to devote her efforts to attacking the NYT... A subject obviously more important to the people of her district than their own dead young men, right? Why, the staff deals with that, same as office supplies, janitorial services, or pest control...

You *might* be right.......but then again all you've got is an interview run through your own personal political bias rendering an opinion........and I *might* be a Chinese jet pilot.