David Gregory and NBC breaking gun laws

[Smoblikat]

LOOK AT THAT PIECE OF METAL!!!!

He can EASILY kill 15000 kids with it.

 

[BladeVenom]

No charges.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/no-gun-magazine-charges-for-david-gregory-86079.html

A shame, but not unexpected in a city run by corrupt Democrats.

If you're not a rich liberal propagandist, they'll go after you for breaking that law.
"at least 105 individuals who, unlike Mr. Gregory, were arrested in 2012 for having a magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/4/if-youre-not-david-gregory/

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

 

[NoStateofMind]

A shame, but not unexpected in a city run by corrupt Democrats.

If you're not a rich liberal propagandist, they'll go after you for breaking that law.
"at least 105 individuals who, unlike Mr. Gregory, were arrested in 2012 for having a magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/4/if-youre-not-david-gregory/

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Those with money, status and power are able to skirt the law while those less fortunate (yeah pretty much everyone) are subject to it. We are sent this message time and time again. "Welp, I gotta work in the mornin' toodloo'"......

 

[monovillage]

A shame, but not unexpected in a city run by corrupt Democrats.

If you're not a rich liberal propagandist, they'll go after you for breaking that law.
"at least 105 individuals who, unlike Mr. Gregory, were arrested in 2012 for having a magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/4/if-youre-not-david-gregory/

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Thank you for this excellent post.

 

[Triumph]

did anyone expect any outcome besides this? i'm not calling for blood, i don't really care, but i think the hypocrisy needs to be pointed out. they could've filed charges and then just given him a slap on the wrist, or accepted a plea of guilty on some trivial charge like disorderly conduct or some such catch-all charge. what if he had pulled an AR-15 out from underneath the desk during that interview?

i think it would've been awesome if Wayne LaPierre had pointed out the illegality of his prop during the interview, on tv.

 

[stlc8tr]

A shame, but not unexpected in a city run by corrupt Democrats.

If you're not a rich liberal propagandist, they'll go after you for breaking that law.
"at least 105 individuals who, unlike Mr. Gregory, were arrested in 2012 for having a magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/4/if-youre-not-david-gregory/

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Shrug. Those who are rich, famous, or powerful are treated differently than "normal" folks. This isn't new and doesn't matter if you are Red or Blue.

 

[monovillage]

Shrug. Those who are rich, famous, or powerful are treated differently than "normal" folks. This isn't new and doesn't matter if you are Red or Blue.

It doesn't, but it should.

 

[dmcowen674]

A shame, but not unexpected in a city run by corrupt Democrats.

If you're not a rich liberal propagandist, they'll go after you for breaking that law.
"at least 105 individuals who, unlike Mr. Gregory, were arrested in 2012 for having a magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/4/if-youre-not-david-gregory/

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

They used hiding behind the First Amendment to break a law against the Second Amendment.

 

[RedCOMET]

did anyone expect any outcome besides this? i'm not calling for blood, i don't really care, but i think the hypocrisy needs to be pointed out. they could've filed charges and then just given him a slap on the wrist, or accepted a plea of guilty on some trivial charge like disorderly conduct or some such catch-all charge. what if he had pulled an AR-15 out from underneath the desk during that interview?

i think it would've been awesome if Wayne LaPierre had pointed out the illegality of his prop during the interview, on tv.

I agree. Also, if NBC wantnted to, they could have made a donation up to the amount the fine would have been to charity that helps people who were victims of gun violence, in addition to saying they were sorry for violating the law. The donation may be a hollow gesture, but it's better than just issues a press release stating "oops, my bad."

 

[piasabird]

I dont see what is illegal about it. Arent we suppose to have the right to bear arms? Let me see how you feel during the next riot. Remember the LA riots? Korean Grocers all had AK-47's. They protected their stores and restraunts. '

Maybe you are not old enought to remember things like riots.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a05_1235367821

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43WZd611WA

 

[Triumph]

I dont see what is illegal about it. Arent we suppose to have the right to bear arms? Let me see how you feel during the next riot. Remember the LA riots? Korean Grocers all had AK-47's. They protected their stores and restraunts. '

Maybe you are not old enought to remember things like riots.

what are you talking about?

 

[Bowfinger]

Here's a more informative article about the decision: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...ef186a-5c4b-11e2-b8b2-0d18a64c8dfa_story.html

 

[BladeVenom]

I dont see what is illegal about it. Arent we suppose to have the right to bear arms?

I agree that it should be legal, and the courts should strike that law down. Yet last year they arrested over 100 people in Washington DC for violating that law.

 

[Agent11]

I agree that it should be legal, and the courts should strike that law down. Yet last year they arrested over 100 people in Washington DC for violating that law.

That is the issue right there.

Lady justice should be blind.

 

[irishScott]

Lol I know it won't happen, but I seriously want him to spend a night in jail over this or something. Would be the ultimate poster-boy for gun-rights advocates.

 

[Bowfinger]

That is the issue right there.

Lady justice should be blind.

Lady Justice should be intelligent. The people who wrote that law did not set out to regulate the display of magazines as props on a TV news program. They were trying to improve public safety (whether you agree with their approach or not). True justice requires intelligent consideration of intent and context, not blind adherence to rigid, no exception rules.

From the article I linked above:

“Influencing our judgment in this case, among other things, is our recognition that the intent of the temporary possession and short display of the magazine was to promote the First Amendment purpose of informing an ongoing public debate about firearms policy in the United States, especially while this subject was foremost in the minds of the public” after the Connecticut school massacre and President Barack Obama’s address to the nation, D.C. Attorney General Irvin Nathan wrote a lawyer for NBC.
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Not even the president of the NRA felt it should be prosecuted, showing he's considerably more rational than many of his members:

However, NRA president David Keene told CNN last month that he didn’t believe Gregory should be prosecuted for what he called a “silly felony.”
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[irishScott]

Lady Justice should be intelligent. The people who wrote that law did not set out to regulate the display of magazines as props on a TV news program. They were trying to improve public safety (whether you agree with their approach or not). True justice requires intelligent consideration of intent and context, not blind adherence to rigid, no exception rules.

From the article I linked above:

“Influencing our judgment in this case, among other things, is our recognition that the intent of the temporary possession and short display of the magazine was to promote the First Amendment purpose of informing an ongoing public debate about firearms policy in the United States, especially while this subject was foremost in the minds of the public” after the Connecticut school massacre and President Barack Obama’s address to the nation, D.C. Attorney General Irvin Nathan wrote a lawyer for NBC.
​

Not even the president of the NRA felt it should be prosecuted, showing he's considerably more rational than many of his members:

However, NRA president David Keene told CNN last month that he didn’t believe Gregory should be prosecuted for what he called a “silly felony.”
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The argument isn't that Gregory should be prosecuted, it's that other people who committed similar "silly felonies" shouldn't have been prosecuted.

 

[Bowfinger]

The argument isn't that Gregory should be prosecuted, it's that other people who committed similar "silly felonies" shouldn't have been prosecuted.

No, that's not the argument you're making at all: "but I seriously want him to spend a night in jail over this or something". Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[irishScott]

No, that's not the argument you're making at all: "but I seriously want him to spend a night in jail over this or something". Two wrongs don't make a right.

Yes, I wanted him to spend a night in jail to demonstrate the injustice of the system to a broader audience. In other words, I wanted him to be the subject in a public demonstration of why others who commit similar victimless crimes shouldn't be punished.

 

[Triumph]

Lady Justice should be intelligent. The people who wrote that law did not set out to regulate the display of magazines as props on a TV news program. They were trying to improve public safety (whether you agree with their approach or not). True justice requires intelligent consideration of intent and context, not blind adherence to rigid, no exception rules.

They also weren't written to prosecute Joe Blow who forgot he had an empty magazine in his trunk from shooting in Virginia last week and was simply passing through DC on his way to the soup kitchen. But the cops don't care about him.

 

[Bowfinger]

They also weren't written to prosecute Joe Blow who forgot he had an empty magazine in his trunk from shooting in Virginia last week and was simply passing through DC on his way to the soup kitchen. But the cops don't care about him.

Two wrongs still don't make a right. It is not Gregory's fault if D.C. police stupidly abuse their authority. Of course "I forgot" is a pretty lame excuse for breaking the law, so I don't have much sympathy for your Joe Blow either.

 

[Agent11]

It isn't the polices job to determine who to apply the law to. They are supposed to apply it equally.

It is up to the judicial to determine the mitigating factors. The law is the law.

 

[Triumph]

Two wrongs still don't make a right. It is not Gregory's fault if D.C. police stupidly abuse their authority. Of course "I forgot" is a pretty lame excuse for breaking the law, so I don't have much sympathy for your Joe Blow either.

Well did Gregory know it was against the law to possess that magazine within DC's boundaries, and still used it on the air? I'd wager he did know the law. If not, what business does he have discussing gun control policy on national TV?