Daughter's 8th grade teacher showing Troy movie in the classroom.

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Yes, at movie theatres. But at home, you dont need an adult or any supervision. Kids in the 8th grade are exposed to sex, drugs, and curse words on a regular basis. To not allow your 8th grade kid to watch a rated R movie at that age just doesnt make sense. Extremely over-protected IMO.

It's still his choice as a parent. He trumps the school on this. Especially since the school is showing R-rated movies to minors. How he raises his kids is his own business. Whether you or I or anyone else feels that they are overprotected or not.

and he is free to send his daughter to another private school.

 

[j00fek]

if its been found that the movie has a good grasp on the story that they are trying to portray i have no objection to it.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
and he is free to send his daughter to another private school.

This is true. I'd consider it if I were him. He could probably get out of whatever contract he signed with them, given what they did.

 

[wheresmybacon]

Originally posted by: Superself

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Superself

Originally posted by: gwrober

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
First off, I seriously doubt it's rated R, and "uncut". Unless you know that for sure, you're just assuming this.

My good friend is a 9th grade teacher and she's shown this movie, but it was from a company the school system deals with that takes movies like this and edits them so they're age appropriate.

I forget the name of the company but I'll ask her when I see her tonight.

Per IMDB:

Rated R for graphic violence/sexuality/nudity

link

I had my 12 yr old daughter call me from her friend's house one day, asking if she was allowed to watch "date movie" which is PG13. Of course not. When you're a parent, these type of things should matter. I would be very upset with my kids' schools if they showed a movie that wasn't even rated for their students, and especially so if they attempted to do so with out discussing it with the parents....

I'm betting that most of the people who think it is overprotective of me do not have young daughters at home.

It's a rated R movie for gods sake. She's in 8th grade. Her friends probably talk about sex, boys, and everything else at the school lunch table. Being protective about the daughter going out and dating, or staying out late and things like that is one thing. Watching a rated R movie in the 8th grade makes no sense.

Im willing to change my opinion about that if one of you fathers with daughters can justify why it is necessary to prohibit your teenage daughter from viewing these movies.

It really depends on every individual child and their maturity level. I feel she is not mentally ready to handle R rated movies.

Have you asked her if she thinks she's ready to handle an R rated movie?

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: dainthomas
First of all, I'd be more upset by the fact that Troy's a crappy movie. Second, if you think 13 year olds (including yours) haven't seen everything in that movie and then some, then you need a return ticket to reality.

Good job on missing the point completely.

 

[SpecialEd]

My biggest problem would be if the teacher chose to watch Troy in place of actually reading Homer's Iliad since the movie greatly perverts the story line and misses some of the main themes.

Now if they already read and discussed the poem and are watching the movie for the sake of comparison, then it would be a good lesson.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: Superself
This movie is rated R. She is showing a full uncut film to 13 year olds. I disagree with this and was wondering how others would feel.

I do understand that the focus of the past 2 weeks has been on mythology, but I still think that this just wrong to do without notifying the parents. There are other movies with lower ratings suitable for 8th graders.

This is at a good Catholic school in Manhattan.

Talk about being up tight. Sheesh...

 

[Patt]

The issue here that some seem to be missing is that the school never asked for feedback about showing an R rated film, not whether or not a 13 year old can handle it. I think most 13 year olds could handle it just fine, but it isn't the school's decision to make.

:thumbsup: for the OP being concerned about the school not asking for feedback.

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: Superself
This movie is rated R. She is showing a full uncut film to 13 year olds. I disagree with this and was wondering how others would feel.

I do understand that the focus of the past 2 weeks has been on mythology, but I still think that this just wrong to do without notifying the parents. There are other movies with lower ratings suitable for 8th graders.

This is at a good Catholic school in Manhattan.

Have you seen the movie? I haven't so have no idea what the R rating is for.

Well back in the day, 30+ years ago, my Junior High went to see Romeo and Juliet in a movie theater, second run house. You know the one with the frontal nudity of teenage Olivia Hussey. So I really don't have a problem with the idea.

 

[Xylitol]

Well she does have an adult with her. If you're going to be so whiny about it (although I see that some parents are paranoid) you can
E-Mail or call the teacher to let your daughter be excused and make her look like bad in front of her peers

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: hungfarover

Originally posted by: Superself

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Superself

Originally posted by: gwrober

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
First off, I seriously doubt it's rated R, and "uncut". Unless you know that for sure, you're just assuming this.

My good friend is a 9th grade teacher and she's shown this movie, but it was from a company the school system deals with that takes movies like this and edits them so they're age appropriate.

I forget the name of the company but I'll ask her when I see her tonight.

Per IMDB:

Rated R for graphic violence/sexuality/nudity

link

I had my 12 yr old daughter call me from her friend's house one day, asking if she was allowed to watch "date movie" which is PG13. Of course not. When you're a parent, these type of things should matter. I would be very upset with my kids' schools if they showed a movie that wasn't even rated for their students, and especially so if they attempted to do so with out discussing it with the parents....

I'm betting that most of the people who think it is overprotective of me do not have young daughters at home.

It's a rated R movie for gods sake. She's in 8th grade. Her friends probably talk about sex, boys, and everything else at the school lunch table. Being protective about the daughter going out and dating, or staying out late and things like that is one thing. Watching a rated R movie in the 8th grade makes no sense.

Im willing to change my opinion about that if one of you fathers with daughters can justify why it is necessary to prohibit your teenage daughter from viewing these movies.

It really depends on every individual child and their maturity level. I feel she is not mentally ready to handle R rated movies.

Have you asked her if she thinks she's ready to handle an R rated movie?

How about you all stop telling the guy how to raise his kid?

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: CKent
8th grade catholic school girl? I won't be the one to tell you...

But yeah, R rated films by law require ... is it 13+ and accompaniment by an adult? Definitely withing the realm of parental discretion, not up to the teacher.

FWIW we watched Glory in middle school. The part where the guy's head exploded was rad

by law? what law would that be?

 

[linkgoron]

8th grade is 13/14?

LOL. Give me a break, your kid has probably much worse than Troy.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: CKent
8th grade catholic school girl? I won't be the one to tell you...

But yeah, R rated films by law require ... is it 13+ and accompaniment by an adult? Definitely withing the realm of parental discretion, not up to the teacher.

FWIW we watched Glory in middle school. The part where the guy's head exploded was rad

by law? what law would that be?

You're right, there is no law, it is a system with voluntary compliance that was set up to avoid government regulation.

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: CKent
8th grade catholic school girl? I won't be the one to tell you...

But yeah, R rated films by law require ... is it 13+ and accompaniment by an adult? Definitely withing the realm of parental discretion, not up to the teacher.

FWIW we watched Glory in middle school. The part where the guy's head exploded was rad

by law? what law would that be?

All of those ratings are recommendations (if viewed at home)
even NC-17 (as long as you don't go to the movie store where they check for ID)

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Patt
The issue here that some seem to be missing is that the school never asked for feedback about showing an R rated film, not whether or not a 13 year old can handle it. I think most 13 year olds could handle it just fine, but it isn't the school's decision to make.

:thumbsup: for the OP being concerned about the school not asking for feedback.

I'd be willing to bet as part of the admissions process the parents had to sign some sort of waiver allowing the school to present some mature material as it coincides with the course curriculum. My high school did this so they didnt need parental waivers everytime they wanted to take us to a broadway play or show a movie.

 

[Pause]

Originally posted by: Superself

Originally posted by: Pause
Yes I do have kids, and being that troy is a movie I would watch, it's not a big deal. Now if your kid's teacher was letting her watch porn or some ghetto trash movie like dead presidents or juice that you wouldn't even watch yourself, then it's a problem.

Are you 13?
If so, ask one of your parents to read this and reply.

I wasn't aware that this thread was asking for the opinion of a 13 year old. As a parent, I gave my response. My daughter is only 6, and I'd let her watch troy if she wanted to. I don't see what the big deal is. It won't give her nightmares, or mentally scar her.

 

[Superself]

Originally posted by: hungfarover

Originally posted by: Superself

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Superself

Originally posted by: gwrober

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
First off, I seriously doubt it's rated R, and "uncut". Unless you know that for sure, you're just assuming this.

My good friend is a 9th grade teacher and she's shown this movie, but it was from a company the school system deals with that takes movies like this and edits them so they're age appropriate.

I forget the name of the company but I'll ask her when I see her tonight.

Per IMDB:

Rated R for graphic violence/sexuality/nudity

link

I had my 12 yr old daughter call me from her friend's house one day, asking if she was allowed to watch "date movie" which is PG13. Of course not. When you're a parent, these type of things should matter. I would be very upset with my kids' schools if they showed a movie that wasn't even rated for their students, and especially so if they attempted to do so with out discussing it with the parents....

I'm betting that most of the people who think it is overprotective of me do not have young daughters at home.

It's a rated R movie for gods sake. She's in 8th grade. Her friends probably talk about sex, boys, and everything else at the school lunch table. Being protective about the daughter going out and dating, or staying out late and things like that is one thing. Watching a rated R movie in the 8th grade makes no sense.

Im willing to change my opinion about that if one of you fathers with daughters can justify why it is necessary to prohibit your teenage daughter from viewing these movies.

It really depends on every individual child and their maturity level. I feel she is not mentally ready to handle R rated movies.

Have you asked her if she thinks she's ready to handle an R rated movie?

No I have not.
After I got out of the military, I worked as a counselor for juvenile delinquent females ages 8-17. I have a lot of experience as far as understanding her and how she thinks. I'm sure she would say that she is ready.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: Pause

Originally posted by: Superself

Originally posted by: Pause
Yes I do have kids, and being that troy is a movie I would watch, it's not a big deal. Now if your kid's teacher was letting her watch porn or some ghetto trash movie like dead presidents or juice that you wouldn't even watch yourself, then it's a problem.

Are you 13?
If so, ask one of your parents to read this and reply.

I wasn't aware that this thread was asking for the opinion of a 13 year old. As a parent, I gave my response. My daughter is only 6, and I'd let her watch troy if she wanted to. I don't see what the big deal is. It won't give her nightmares, or mentally scar her.

Way to cop out on your parenting skills. 6yo are not quite the best decision makers yet. If she wants a beer do you just let her have that too? No nightmares or mental scarring there.

 

[Patt]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Patt
The issue here that some seem to be missing is that the school never asked for feedback about showing an R rated film, not whether or not a 13 year old can handle it. I think most 13 year olds could handle it just fine, but it isn't the school's decision to make.

:thumbsup: for the OP being concerned about the school not asking for feedback.

I'd be willing to bet as part of the admissions process the parents had to sign some sort of waiver allowing the school to present some mature material as it coincides with the course curriculum. My high school did this so they didnt need parental waivers everytime they wanted to take us to a broadway play or show a movie.

Possibly, in which case the OP should know about it, but he doesn't seem to. A good thing to check out though if you already haven't OP.

 

[Superself]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Patt
The issue here that some seem to be missing is that the school never asked for feedback about showing an R rated film, not whether or not a 13 year old can handle it. I think most 13 year olds could handle it just fine, but it isn't the school's decision to make.

:thumbsup: for the OP being concerned about the school not asking for feedback.

I'd be willing to bet as part of the admissions process the parents had to sign some sort of waiver allowing the school to present some mature material as it coincides with the course curriculum. My high school did this so they didnt need parental waivers everytime they wanted to take us to a broadway play or show a movie.

Your high school did this, so I guess this would HAVE to mean that every other middle school on the planet has to have done it then...huh??

 

[Pause]

Ask yourself this superself. "Why don't I want my daughter to see this movie?" I would say the answer is because someone once told you it's morally wrong and you followed along because you can't think for yourself. Good game.

 

[Superself]

Originally posted by: Pause

Originally posted by: Superself

Originally posted by: Pause
Yes I do have kids, and being that troy is a movie I would watch, it's not a big deal. Now if your kid's teacher was letting her watch porn or some ghetto trash movie like dead presidents or juice that you wouldn't even watch yourself, then it's a problem.

Are you 13?
If so, ask one of your parents to read this and reply.

I wasn't aware that this thread was asking for the opinion of a 13 year old. As a parent, I gave my response. My daughter is only 6, and I'd let her watch troy if she wanted to. I don't see what the big deal is. It won't give her nightmares, or mentally scar her.

You would let your 6yo watch it....wow!!

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: Superself
I'm betting that most of the people who think it is overprotective of me do not have young daughters at home.

So having young daughters at home means you totally disconnect from reality? Or have you totally forgotten what 13 year olds know?

 

[mundane]

The guy wants to raise his own kid, the way he wants, in what he believes to be the best manner. To do his best to introduce controversial topics himself, instead of letting Hollywood be the babysitter and glorifying it all. Seems to me there's a lot of resentful little eight graders in there.