Dating When You're A Short Guy

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Dating When You're A Short Guy
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It's hard out there for a shrimp. Chalk it up to cold Darwinism, cultural standards, or the simple feminine desire to have a man around who can reach the top shelf, but just about every stature study in the last twenty years confirms what short guys already know: Women prefer taller men. But that doesn't mean shorter men are doomed in the dating department. In fact, lots of men who fall under America's 5'9" male average date with great success?often with taller women. Their playbook, honed by necessity, is all about evening the odds and picking up subtle signs of interest that their loftier brothers might ignore. Not convinced? Let these men's struggles and solutions prove otherwise.

Challenge #1: Being short can wreak havoc with your confidence While many women are happy to date a great guy regardless of his height, for some girls (especially the tall ones) it's an instant deal breaker?and, given men are often responsible for making the first move, it can be tricky to know how to proceed. "There was a woman I was absolutely smitten with," recalls Charles, 40, who's a 5'7 surgeon living in New York City. "She was only a couple inches taller than me and friendly to me in group settings, so I figured I'd give it a shot. But after trying unsuccessfully to get a date with her, one of her friends finally told me the deal: I was too short for her." Another experience many shorter guys suffer is when women do warm up to them... as a friend. "One time I was out with a short buddy of mine and a tall girl he was hitting on did the one thing that all short guys hate: She put his arm around him kind of like one would do with a little brother," shudders Eric, a 40-year-old paramedic from Louisville, KY who's 5'7". Understandably, such experiences can leave many short guys feeling gun-shy. "If I'm approaching a woman who's taller than me, I'd probably be dissuaded much more easily," continues Eric. "I'll probably interpret any bit of coyness or lack of enthusiasm as 'Well, she just doesn't go for shorter guys' and steer clear."

Coping strategy: Know that plenty of women don't mind half as much as you think While sussing out who's open to dating in the lower height ranges isn't easy, there are ways to get a handle on who's game. Case in point: Most men don't pay that much attention to a woman's shoes, but shorter guys hone in on them, and for good reason. "If I see a tall woman who's got on four-inch heels, that's a subtle message that she's into being tall and it's part of her personality. I'll generally avoid these types as a rule," says Eric. "But when I see a tall woman who wears flats, it's a clear sign she's not caught up in being tall. As a matter of fact, she's trying to bring herself down a little bit. So I approach." And for women, the word is that you need to be more explicit and encouraging if you're interested in a shorter guy. "The taller women that I've dated actually came more to me than I pursued them," says Eric, who is currently dating a woman a couple inches taller than him. "The woman I'm dating right now came and gave me a kiss at a party. It was that easy."

Challenge #2: In the online dating world, height can be listed as a mate must-have On many online dating sites, members are asked to list their own height as well as the desired stature of the people they'd like to date. For shorter guys, this can present obvious problems?and while it's tempting to fudge the facts a few inches in your profile, the game will be over once you meet face to face. "If you walk into a date and you've said you're two inches taller than you are, then you might as well be wearing a big sign that says 'liar,'" points out Eric. So be honest, but also be willing to take a proactive role in scanning for and emailing women online since you may not make their minimum height requirement when they do the searching.

Coping strategy: Realize that most women will bend their rules for the right guy While the situation may look bleak, shorter online daters shouldn't despair and here's why: What women list they want in a mate ideally can be light years from what they're perfectly happy to accept in the right guy. Eric, for one, was at first surprised when his online profile got interest from taller women who were breaking the very height requirements they listed in their own online profile. "They write that they're looking for a taller guy, but then again, they're contacting me," he says, adding that at first he felt the need to explain to them that he might not live up to their lofty standards. "I used to tell them I'm a lot shorter than you're looking for, but I don't do it anymore because it's pointless. They see it in your profile anyway." Bill, a 35-year-old publishing executive from Rochester, NY, who's 5'6", says he's had a good response online from women of all heights. "I have taller girls emailing me a lot, even though I don't meet the height they say they're looking for," he says, "They all tell me my profile made them laugh. I think the key is having something to capture their attention other than height. Humor's the best."

Challenge #3: Short guys aren't always taken seriously Even guys who do find a gal who's fine and dandy with a height differential know that being an odd couple can be hard?for instance, strangers may do double-takes and friends and family may make snide, behind-the-back comments from friends and family. "Generally speaking, if you're a short guy and you're dating a tall woman and you walk into a bar, people tend to laugh or whisper about you," says Eric. "Or have you ever noticed how men think it's OK to hit on a tall girl even if it's obvious she's dating the short dude standing right next to her?"

Coping strategy: Confidence can make any guy seem ten feet tall One lesson short guys learn early on is that confidence, not height, is the ultimate aphrodisiac. "If you're hitting on a taller woman, don't even blink," recommends Bill. "Just interact totally straight on, like there's nothing weird. Never let your actual stature affect your sense of metaphorical stature." In fact, showing a taller girl your chutzpah works especially well when you?re short. "If a woman is taller than you, she knows that she's taller than you, then she'll see your approaching her as a sign that you're very confident with who he is.' That puts you in a very good light, in front of her and in front of others," says Eric. So when you're taking a woman out and get a double-take or see someone giggling in your direction, remember: Your date chose to go out with you because you have all kinds of great things going for you. So don't let another person's height hang-up put a dent in your confidence.

And that brings up a valuable big-picture perspective: Height hang-ups are just that?another person's issue, not yours. So if you do get rebuffed because of your stature, consider how Charles looks at the situation: "If a girl doesn't want to date me because I'm shorter, I just think 'Too bad for her. She's missing out on me.'"

 

bennylong

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any tips for short unsuccessful men with a career that's going nowhere? those tips were all given by short successful men.
 

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I'm 5'8", and I was once setup with a girl, who when I spoke to her on the phone said she was 5'10". I - almost - stood her up for our date. But when I met her, she wasn't taller than me (when we kissed that night ;) ). She must have been my height, tops.

I'm not sure what this proves other than that most people lie about their heights, but I still think dating someone whose taller would be weird.

I also dated a girl who was 4'10" once and that was also quite awkward. I felt like I was with a little kid. I guess this is what it must be like for really tall chaps who date women of average height, but maybe they are used to it and like it.

I'm used to seeing women in the 5'3-5'7" range mostly (average height), so that's what I go for.

I've heard dating can be tricky for tall women, but many of these beasts show up at parties wearing 5" heels, making themselves out to be absolute giants. :confused:
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: bennylong
any tips for short unsuccessful men with a career that's going nowhere? those tips were all given by short successful men.

you need to be funny !

It works, or at least I used to work for ME! :(

OK, I'll admit that I don't really try anymore. ;)
 

dug777

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Misses the farking obvious point that most women are shortarses :p

Should be relabled a guide for short guys who want to date tall chicks ;)
 

buck

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My GF said that she refused to date shorter people, said alot of her friends felt the same way. Ohh well, guess im glad im not short.
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: dug777
Misses the farking obvious point that most women are shortarses :p

Should be relabled a guide for short guys who want to date tall chicks ;)

Even so, a LOT of short women STILL want to date TALL men.
 

bennylong

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Originally posted by: buck
My GF said that she refused to date shorter people, said alot of her friends felt the same way. Ohh well, guess im glad im not short.

That's what I get all the time. Oh well, there will be one lucky girl in China that will get to marry me.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: bennylong
Originally posted by: buck
My GF said that she refused to date shorter people, said alot of her friends felt the same way. Ohh well, guess im glad im not short.

That's what I get all the time. Oh well, there will be one lucky girl in China that will get to marry me.

Most likely a fib. If you act confident enough you'll trick them into thinking you're tall.
 

bennylong

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: dug777
Misses the farking obvious point that most women are shortarses :p

Should be relabled a guide for short guys who want to date tall chicks ;)

Even so, a LOT of short women STILL want to date TALL men.

It seems like Short women only want to date tall men. They don't want to have short kids, it's what they tell me when I ask why they only date tall men. I tried using Eharmony.com and the request for communciation usually come from taller women while the short women always close my match, just like in real life.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: dug777
Misses the farking obvious point that most women are shortarses :p

Should be relabled a guide for short guys who want to date tall chicks ;)

Even so, a LOT of short women STILL want to date TALL men.

yeah but any woman with an ounce of brains wants to date guys who are nice to her. A guy's height doesn't matter if he's an azz.
 

Ayah

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Originally posted by: bennylong
Originally posted by: buck
My GF said that she refused to date shorter people, said alot of her friends felt the same way. Ohh well, guess im glad im not short.

That's what I get all the time. Oh well, there will be one lucky girl in China that will get to marry me.

:beer: Not all Chinese women are short though. :p
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: dug777
Misses the farking obvious point that most women are shortarses :p

Should be relabled a guide for short guys who want to date tall chicks ;)

Even so, a LOT of short women STILL want to date TALL men.

Then the guide needs to be entitled, 'hey ladies, shorter guys are people too!' ;)
 

BigToque

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Don't worry about things you can't change. Seriously, what do you think + / - a few inches in height actually mean? If you're worried about height, you've got a deeper issue to take care of first.

Be happy with yourself and you'll find all kinds of ladies that will love you for who you are.
 

Triforceofcourage

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: dug777
Misses the farking obvious point that most women are shortarses :p

Should be relabled a guide for short guys who want to date tall chicks ;)

Even so, a LOT of short women STILL want to date TALL men.

yeah but any woman with an ounce of brains wants to date guys who are nice to her. A guy's height doesn't matter if he's an azz.



Actually, being an ass is a bonus if you want a girl to like you. Unfortunate but true.
 

bennylong

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Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: dug777
Misses the farking obvious point that most women are shortarses :p

Should be relabled a guide for short guys who want to date tall chicks ;)

Even so, a LOT of short women STILL want to date TALL men.

yeah but any woman with an ounce of brains wants to date guys who are nice to her. A guy's height doesn't matter if he's an azz.



Actually, being an ass is a bonus if you want a girl to like you. Unfortunate but true.

My #1 reason for being rejected, "You're a real nice guy, let's be friends."
 

Koing

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Originally posted by: bennylong
any tips for short unsuccessful men with a career that's going nowhere? those tips were all given by short successful men.

Your too negative and down on yourself.

Go find a hobby that you like that envolves being outside and meeting some girls.

SALSA CLASS. Go and do it. You meet girls, learn to dance and one of them may like you :thumbsup:

As for the article I'm glad I'm 5'10. Not tall but taller then the avg in the UK :p and UK girls are shorter also :p

Koing
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: bennylong
Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: dug777
Misses the farking obvious point that most women are shortarses :p

Should be relabled a guide for short guys who want to date tall chicks ;)

Even so, a LOT of short women STILL want to date TALL men.

yeah but any woman with an ounce of brains wants to date guys who are nice to her. A guy's height doesn't matter if he's an azz.



Actually, being an ass is a bonus if you want a girl to like you. Unfortunate but true.

My #1 reason for being rejected, "You're a real nice guy, let's be friends."

Yup, I can relate to THAT one.

Well except they say "YOU'RE an ASSHOLE. FVCK OFF!" But that's close!


Just kidding. Contrary to popular belief, I AM a nice guy! ;)
 

waggy

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i'm kinda short. 5'6".

I have dated tall girls, one was 6'1 or so. my head just the right spot to get a hug..:) i have also dated short girls 4'10"

i always prefered the girls i date to be shorter. maybe 4'10"-5'3" or so. my wife is 5'4"

 

Koing

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Originally posted by: bennylong
Actually, being an ass is a bonus if you want a girl to like you. Unfortunate but true.

My #1 reason for being rejected, "You're a real nice guy, let's be friends."[/quote]

It isn't that. Just that they weren't in to you. Move on to the next girl :thumbsup:

Koing
 

Stunt

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My #1 reason for being rejected, "You're a real nice guy, let's be friends."
That's not the reason. That's what they say to you to let you down easy.
I do it all the time to women :D